Re: Good News on Photo Management
Hi Christine: the upgrade is really simple. I just download from the Adobe site, install by following on screen directions, and you're done, I've done upgrades since the 1st version and have never had a problem. If you're having hardware problems, I'd sort that out first before I'd upgrade any application. Yes, using Lightroom 4. It's great! Highly recommend it. The highlight and shadow sliders are very robust, in my view, and they have added the geo mapping and book module is linked to blurb.com. The book module interface is very nice, easy to use. Once I find all my photos, I'll really be able to do something with them now! :-) Cheers, Christine On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: > That is good news, Christine! > > You are running LR 4, yes? Maybe I missed your review earlier, but how do > you like it, now that the crying part is over? ;) > > Been thinking about the upgrade, but my own machine has been acting up lately > (sniff!), so I'm trying to take care of that issue first. Maybe once I get it > back from the Genius Bar, we'll see... Do either of the books walk you > through the upgrade process? > > :) > -c > > > On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > >> Hi Everyone: >> >> The Martin Evening book arrived, and, of course, I've been reading it. The >> book is very good, so highly recommend to others. At 667 pages (not >> including index) it's comprehensive and clearly written. Scott Kellby's >> books are too wordy; in fact, I wondered when reading his book if he was >> just taping workshops, then transcribing his lecture/directions, then >> publishing nearly as is. >> >> >> I obviously focused on the Library module and learned a bunch, and hence >> have created a workflow by which I can relink the master photo files from my >> working external hard drive to the 8000 to the corresponding catalogue, so >> with a little time and attention, I should get all the photo files linked >> up. I've linked up quite a bit already: find in folder on dead drive, find >> in Finder (Mac), go to working drive, find image etc. It turns out the >> folder structures on the dead drive and the working drive are fairly >> similar, with some exceptions, but Finder on Mac makes it easy to quickly >> match up, so I'm good to go. >> >> Next step is to get a real workflow and hierarchal structure going. The >> Evening book does a good job of presenting options, and I have the link >> George Sinos posted, so I just need to think about this. >> >> >> The feature I hadn't really used before was exporting a catalogue of >> selected photos. Knowing now that I can export the metadata, previews, and >> a copy of the master photo files in one catalogue, I think I will >> incorporate this into my back up workflow when dealing with those extra >> special keepers that I really want to keep safe. Obviously, we want to keep >> all our keepers safe, but this feature, I think, will give added on site and >> off site protection. >> >> >> So, thanks everyone! Crying no longer in Chicago. >> >> Cheers, Christine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News on Photo Management
That is good news, Christine! You are running LR 4, yes? Maybe I missed your review earlier, but how do you like it, now that the crying part is over? ;) Been thinking about the upgrade, but my own machine has been acting up lately (sniff!), so I'm trying to take care of that issue first. Maybe once I get it back from the Genius Bar, we'll see... Do either of the books walk you through the upgrade process? :) -c On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Hi Everyone: > > The Martin Evening book arrived, and, of course, I've been reading it. The > book is very good, so highly recommend to others. At 667 pages (not > including index) it's comprehensive and clearly written. Scott Kellby's > books are too wordy; in fact, I wondered when reading his book if he was just > taping workshops, then transcribing his lecture/directions, then publishing > nearly as is. > > > I obviously focused on the Library module and learned a bunch, and hence have > created a workflow by which I can relink the master photo files from my > working external hard drive to the 8000 to the corresponding catalogue, so > with a little time and attention, I should get all the photo files linked up. > I've linked up quite a bit already: find in folder on dead drive, find in > Finder (Mac), go to working drive, find image etc. It turns out the folder > structures on the dead drive and the working drive are fairly similar, with > some exceptions, but Finder on Mac makes it easy to quickly match up, so I'm > good to go. > > Next step is to get a real workflow and hierarchal structure going. The > Evening book does a good job of presenting options, and I have the link > George Sinos posted, so I just need to think about this. > > > The feature I hadn't really used before was exporting a catalogue of selected > photos. Knowing now that I can export the metadata, previews, and a copy of > the master photo files in one catalogue, I think I will incorporate this into > my back up workflow when dealing with those extra special keepers that I > really want to keep safe. Obviously, we want to keep all our keepers safe, > but this feature, I think, will give added on site and off site protection. > > > So, thanks everyone! Crying no longer in Chicago. > > Cheers, Christine > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News on Photo Management
I like Scott, I've met him once upon a time and he's a very energetic and enjoyable guy to talk with. But his writing style is WAY too chatty for me. Virtually unreadable. Martin's book is a lot more to my liking. He presents information clearly and concisely. Lightroom is a huge subject to write about, with many many features. The good news is that you can use it in a simple manner and learn as much as you need to as your experience grows. There are just a few basics that you really need to understand at the start to get the most out of it. Godfrey On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:08 PM, George Sinos wrote: > I think a better way to describe the Kelby book is "chatty". It's > roughly 1/2 the length of the Evening's book, but it's a very > conversational, step-by-step, style. Kelby doesn't always tell you > why to do something. The just tell you how. A lot of people find the > chapter introductions annoying. Every chapter has an into that Kelby > just writes to have fun. Most of the time they don't have a lot to do > with the chapter. You can skip the chapter intros and not miss > anything but storytelling. > > Evening is on the other end of the scale. He tells you how, buried in > the why. And very often gives you several different examples of how > you might do the same thing in different ways. > > I think of the Kelby's book as an instruction manual and Evening's > book as a service manual. > > I have both. If I just want to quickly figure out how to get something > done, or get an overview of features I'll pick the Kelby books (or > more likely watch their videos.) If I'm trying to make a decision on > something a little bigger, like figure out a process or method, I'll > read Evening's book. > > gs > > George Sinos > > gsi...@gmail.com > www.georgesphotos.net > plus.georgesinos.com > > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM, P. J. Alling > wrote: >> If a 667 page book on a subject isn't wordy, how long is the wordy book? >> >> >> >> On 7/21/2012 3:42 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: >>> >>> Hi Everyone: >>> >>> The Martin Evening book arrived, and, of course, I've been reading it. >>> The book is very good, so highly recommend to others. At 667 pages (not >>> including index) it's comprehensive and clearly written. Scott Kellby's >>> books are too wordy; in fact, I wondered when reading his book if he was >>> just taping workshops, then transcribing his lecture/directions, then >>> publishing nearly as is. >>> >>> >>> I obviously focused on the Library module and learned a bunch, and hence >>> have created a workflow by which I can relink the master photo files from my >>> working external hard drive to the 8000 to the corresponding catalogue, so >>> with a little time and attention, I should get all the photo files linked >>> up. I've linked up quite a bit already: find in folder on dead drive, find >>> in Finder (Mac), go to working drive, find image etc. It turns out the >>> folder structures on the dead drive and the working drive are fairly >>> similar, with some exceptions, but Finder on Mac makes it easy to quickly >>> match up, so I'm good to go. >>> >>> Next step is to get a real workflow and hierarchal structure going. The >>> Evening book does a good job of presenting options, and I have the link >>> George Sinos posted, so I just need to think about this. >>> >>> >>> The feature I hadn't really used before was exporting a catalogue of >>> selected photos. Knowing now that I can export the metadata, previews, and >>> a copy of the master photo files in one catalogue, I think I will >>> incorporate this into my back up workflow when dealing with those extra >>> special keepers that I really want to keep safe. Obviously, we want to keep >>> all our keepers safe, but this feature, I think, will give added on site and >>> off site protection. >>> >>> >>> So, thanks everyone! Crying no longer in Chicago. >>> >>> Cheers, Christine >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a >> lengthly search. >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News on Photo Management
I think a better way to describe the Kelby book is "chatty". It's roughly 1/2 the length of the Evening's book, but it's a very conversational, step-by-step, style. Kelby doesn't always tell you why to do something. The just tell you how. A lot of people find the chapter introductions annoying. Every chapter has an into that Kelby just writes to have fun. Most of the time they don't have a lot to do with the chapter. You can skip the chapter intros and not miss anything but storytelling. Evening is on the other end of the scale. He tells you how, buried in the why. And very often gives you several different examples of how you might do the same thing in different ways. I think of the Kelby's book as an instruction manual and Evening's book as a service manual. I have both. If I just want to quickly figure out how to get something done, or get an overview of features I'll pick the Kelby books (or more likely watch their videos.) If I'm trying to make a decision on something a little bigger, like figure out a process or method, I'll read Evening's book. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > If a 667 page book on a subject isn't wordy, how long is the wordy book? > > > > On 7/21/2012 3:42 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone: >> >> The Martin Evening book arrived, and, of course, I've been reading it. >> The book is very good, so highly recommend to others. At 667 pages (not >> including index) it's comprehensive and clearly written. Scott Kellby's >> books are too wordy; in fact, I wondered when reading his book if he was >> just taping workshops, then transcribing his lecture/directions, then >> publishing nearly as is. >> >> >> I obviously focused on the Library module and learned a bunch, and hence >> have created a workflow by which I can relink the master photo files from my >> working external hard drive to the 8000 to the corresponding catalogue, so >> with a little time and attention, I should get all the photo files linked >> up. I've linked up quite a bit already: find in folder on dead drive, find >> in Finder (Mac), go to working drive, find image etc. It turns out the >> folder structures on the dead drive and the working drive are fairly >> similar, with some exceptions, but Finder on Mac makes it easy to quickly >> match up, so I'm good to go. >> >> Next step is to get a real workflow and hierarchal structure going. The >> Evening book does a good job of presenting options, and I have the link >> George Sinos posted, so I just need to think about this. >> >> >> The feature I hadn't really used before was exporting a catalogue of >> selected photos. Knowing now that I can export the metadata, previews, and >> a copy of the master photo files in one catalogue, I think I will >> incorporate this into my back up workflow when dealing with those extra >> special keepers that I really want to keep safe. Obviously, we want to keep >> all our keepers safe, but this feature, I think, will give added on site and >> off site protection. >> >> >> So, thanks everyone! Crying no longer in Chicago. >> >> Cheers, Christine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a > lengthly search. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News on Photo Management
If a 667 page book on a subject isn't wordy, how long is the wordy book? On 7/21/2012 3:42 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: The Martin Evening book arrived, and, of course, I've been reading it. The book is very good, so highly recommend to others. At 667 pages (not including index) it's comprehensive and clearly written. Scott Kellby's books are too wordy; in fact, I wondered when reading his book if he was just taping workshops, then transcribing his lecture/directions, then publishing nearly as is. I obviously focused on the Library module and learned a bunch, and hence have created a workflow by which I can relink the master photo files from my working external hard drive to the 8000 to the corresponding catalogue, so with a little time and attention, I should get all the photo files linked up. I've linked up quite a bit already: find in folder on dead drive, find in Finder (Mac), go to working drive, find image etc. It turns out the folder structures on the dead drive and the working drive are fairly similar, with some exceptions, but Finder on Mac makes it easy to quickly match up, so I'm good to go. Next step is to get a real workflow and hierarchal structure going. The Evening book does a good job of presenting options, and I have the link George Sinos posted, so I just need to think about this. The feature I hadn't really used before was exporting a catalogue of selected photos. Knowing now that I can export the metadata, previews, and a copy of the master photo files in one catalogue, I think I will incorporate this into my back up workflow when dealing with those extra special keepers that I really want to keep safe. Obviously, we want to keep all our keepers safe, but this feature, I think, will give added on site and off site protection. So, thanks everyone! Crying no longer in Chicago. Cheers, Christine -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
