Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-16 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Thursday, April 15, 2004, 11:44:20 PM, Rfsindg wrote:

 Why Bob, she looks just like you. g
 Regards,  Bob S.

 Bob W. writes:

 My adoptive daughter, Pip, is at the bottom of this page:
 http://www.monkeyworld.co.uk/topic.php?TopicID=25Template=standard

yes - she was was lucky enough to get her father's brains and looks,
and her mother's hairy arms and table manners.

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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Murray
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Jim Apilado wrote:

 Is this Vancouver, BC?  I thought the zoo was gone.
 
 Jim A.
 
  
  Had a few hours walk this Saturaday and took some pictures. To my surprise,
  I was able to take sharp pictures by handholding my 200mm  300mm. Camera
  shake used to be a problem with me so I usually had the tripod with me, but
  not this time (left in the car because of the weight). Any comments welcome.
  :-)
  
  http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/vancouver_zoo
  
  Regards,
  Alan Chan
  http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

You're probably thinking of the small zoo at Stanley Park in downtown
Vancouver. The Zoo that Alan's pictures are from is out in the suburbs of
Vancouver. It used to be known as the Vancouver Game Farm, but now its
called the Greater Vancouver Zoo. 

- Chris


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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread John Forbes
I think the bars force us to reflect on the fact that these creatures of 
the wild have been imprisoned for our entertainment.  Perhaps there are 
good reasons for it, perhaps not.

John

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:13:34 -0700, Shel Belinkoff 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Alan ...

I don't like these at all.  The fence between the viewer and
the animals really detracts from the critters.  Better would
have been to get closer, stick a smaller lens through the
fence, if at all possible, or get much closer to the fence
and use whatever lens you had wide open or close to it,
obscuring the fence completely.  Baring those options, these
are probably as good as you could get, and was a good
exercise in hand holding longer lenses ... which you seem to
have done quite well.
Others might like the idea of the fence being there, but,
imo, it makes for very poor photographs.
shel

Alan Chan wrote:
Had a few hours walk this Saturaday and took some pictures. To my 
surprise,
I was able to take sharp pictures by handholding my 200mm  300mm. 
Camera
shake used to be a problem with me so I usually had the tripod with me, 
but
not this time (left in the car because of the weight). Any comments 
welcome.
  :-)

http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/vancouver_zoo




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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I thought about that, and that idea doesn't make it for me. 
I think there are better ways, photographically, to show
that.

John Forbes wrote:
 
 I think the bars force us to reflect on the fact that these creatures of
 the wild have been imprisoned for our entertainment.  Perhaps there are
 good reasons for it, perhaps not.



Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Jim Apilado
I visited Vancouver's zoo several years ago.  Then I read that the zoo was
voted out of existence.  There was an aquarium in the same area.  I wonder
if that still exists.

Jim A.
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 I think the bars force us to reflect on the fact that these creatures of
 the wild have been imprisoned for our entertainment.  Perhaps there are
 good reasons for it, perhaps not.
 
 John
 
 On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:13:34 -0700, Shel Belinkoff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Alan ...
 
 I don't like these at all.  The fence between the viewer and
 the animals really detracts from the critters.  Better would
 have been to get closer, stick a smaller lens through the
 fence, if at all possible, or get much closer to the fence
 and use whatever lens you had wide open or close to it,
 obscuring the fence completely.  Baring those options, these
 are probably as good as you could get, and was a good
 exercise in hand holding longer lenses ... which you seem to
 have done quite well.
 
 Others might like the idea of the fence being there, but,
 imo, it makes for very poor photographs.
 
 shel
 
 Alan Chan wrote:
 
 Had a few hours walk this Saturaday and took some pictures. To my
 surprise,
 I was able to take sharp pictures by handholding my 200mm  300mm.
 Camera
 shake used to be a problem with me so I usually had the tripod with me,
 but
 not this time (left in the car because of the weight). Any comments
 welcome.
 :-)
 
 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/vancouver_zoo
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 I think the bars force us to reflect on the fact that these creatures of
 the wild have been imprisoned for our entertainment.  Perhaps there are 
 good reasons for it, perhaps not.


 I don't like these at all.  The fence between the viewer and
 the animals really detracts from the critters.  Better would


 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/vancouver_zoo

I agree with Shel. The bars are rather a tired old cliche for showing
captivity.

They are very beautiful little monkeys, and the photos would be
greatly improved by telling us what type of monkeys they are! Squirrel
monkeys (Saimiri sciureus)? I'm not sure.

By coincidence I was trying to describe precisely this type of monkey to
one of my brothers this weekend, but he didn't recognise my
description. There's a troupe of them in Monkeyworld, a
terribly-named, but brilliant, primate rescue centre in Dorset, England.
One of my favourite places in the world.
http://www.monkeyworld.co.uk/main.php

My adoptive daughter, Pip, is at the bottom of this page:
http://www.monkeyworld.co.uk/topic.php?TopicID=25Template=standard

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 Bob



Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Alan Chan
So you've switched to Canon IS, Alan  ;-)
Keep it down, I don't want anyone to know here. :-)  But the truth is, I am 
stuck with Pentax. g

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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Alan Chan
You're probably thinking of the small zoo at Stanley Park in downtown
Vancouver. The Zoo that Alan's pictures are from is out in the suburbs of
Vancouver. It used to be known as the Vancouver Game Farm, but now its
called the Greater Vancouver Zoo.
That explains why the zoo seems a little primitive (no disrespect), but we 
enjoy petting the animals.  :-)

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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Alan Chan
I believe you meant the Stanley Park. The aquarium should still be here, but 
haven't seen any zoo.

Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
I visited Vancouver's zoo several years ago.  Then I read that the zoo was
voted out of existence.  There was an aquarium in the same area.  I wonder
if that still exists.
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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread frank theriault
I concur with Shel wrt fence.  It's a real distraction.

I've taken a few zoopix over the years, and I realize that it's often either 
fence, or no pic.

OTOH, that shot of the buzzards or whatever type of ugly bird they are, is 
pretty cool.  And, yes, they're pretty damned sharp.  Better than I coulda 
done, that's for sure.  That one's my favourite of the bunch.

The ring-tailed lemurs (or whatever they are - any lower-primate-looking 
mammal with a ringed tail is a ring-tailed lemur to me) are sharp enough, 
but they really aren't doing much interesting imho.  Not a bad shot, just 
not so interesting.  But, as Shel said, if the exercise is one in 
handholding a long lens steady, you were most successful.

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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:13:34 -0700
Hi Alan ...

I don't like these at all.  The fence between the viewer and
the animals really detracts from the critters.  Better would
have been to get closer, stick a smaller lens through the
fence, if at all possible, or get much closer to the fence
and use whatever lens you had wide open or close to it,
obscuring the fence completely.  Baring those options, these
are probably as good as you could get, and was a good
exercise in hand holding longer lenses ... which you seem to
have done quite well.
Others might like the idea of the fence being there, but,
imo, it makes for very poor photographs.
shel

Alan Chan wrote:

 Had a few hours walk this Saturaday and took some pictures. To my 
surprise,
 I was able to take sharp pictures by handholding my 200mm  300mm. 
Camera
 shake used to be a problem with me so I usually had the tripod with me, 
but
 not this time (left in the car because of the weight). Any comments 
welcome.
   :-)

 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/vancouver_zoo

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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Alan Chan
I concur with Shel wrt fence.  It's a real distraction.
I've taken a few zoopix over the years, and I realize that it's often 
either fence, or no pic.
Looks like it was not such a good idea then.

OTOH, that shot of the buzzards or whatever type of ugly bird they are, is 
pretty cool.  And, yes, they're pretty damned sharp.  Better than I coulda 
done, that's for sure.  That one's my favourite of the bunch.
Actually this pic was shot through the fence too, but the lens was stick so 
close to the fence they aren't visible in the picture.

The ring-tailed lemurs (or whatever they are - any lower-primate-looking 
mammal with a ringed tail is a ring-tailed lemur to me) are sharp enough, 
but they really aren't doing much interesting imho.  Not a bad shot, just 
not so interesting.  But, as Shel said, if the exercise is one in 
handholding a long lens steady, you were most successful.
I have a good excuse for this - the glass window was dirty. g

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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Dan Matyola
I was there last summer.  The aquarium was very nice.  I think there was 
a small children's petting zoo, but no more than that.

Alan Chan wrote:

I believe you meant the Stanley Park. The aquarium should still be 
here, but haven't seen any zoo.

Regards,
Alan Chan
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I visited Vancouver's zoo several years ago.  Then I read that the 
zoo was
voted out of existence.  There was an aquarium in the same area.  I 
wonder
if that still exists.


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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Alan Chan
I think I know what you mean. I was there few years ago but it was closed at 
the time. There were a few animals wandering freely inside.

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I was there last summer.  The aquarium was very nice.  I think there was a 
small children's petting zoo, but no more than that.
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Re: Greater Vancouver Zoo

2004-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:
 
 I concur with Shel wrt fence.  It's a real distraction.
 
 I've taken a few zoopix over the years, and I realize that it's often either
 fence, or no pic.
 
 OTOH, that shot of the buzzards or whatever type of ugly bird they are, is
 pretty cool.

Those are King Vultures, I believe - I love those
guys..

 I think _one_ of the monkey shots behind the
bars would have done...
sweet fellows - and I also wanted to know who/what
I was looking at, Alan.

Sorry to hear the Stanley Park zoo is gone - I
shot there in - gosh -
the mid 70's.  I think I've been to the larger one
as well, but now
can't remember for sure.

ann