Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On 7/22/2013 5:12 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. Close - Cassino, not Cassio... But what's one letter? Yep - Eric determined that my A* 200 f4 was just plain worn out and we worked out a deal where he had the needed parts fabricated and successfully repaired the lens. Unfortunatley, the repair only lasted one season and a year later it was not stopping down correctly. I probably should have sent it to Eric to see if just needed adjustment, but a mint copy of the lens came up for sale so I shelled out a lot more to get a replacement A* 200. I probably broke the used market for that lens since everyone who wants to sell one these days is listing it at the overly inflated price that I paid. But for me, for a mint, never used A*200 it was an acceptable deal. I paid less than what a Nikon D7000, 200mm micro nikkor, flash and cables would have cost. I still have my old A* 200 macro - it seems to work fine manually stopped down and some day I hope to use it with the Q. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On 23/07/2013 9:42 PM, Walt wrote: On 7/23/2013 6:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: No Walt, I won't give you my 77ltd so that I have an excuse to by the 85/1.4. I'm glad you didn't have to see me flounce out of the room and slam the door just now. I didn't let having a 77 stop me from buying an A*85/1.4. And neither should you. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Works either side of the pond! On 23 Jul 2013, at 03:23, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Beat off doesn't have quite the same meaning in the U.S. On 7/22/2013 4:25 PM, Bob W wrote: The difference between a Rolex and a Timex is that you can beat off potential muggers with a Rolex and you won't damage the watch, whereas with a Timex no-one wants to mug you. B On 22 Jul 2013, at 21:02, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So its a status lens? I mean a Rolex still tells time like a Casio or Timex, so its mainly a status thing, but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? Reminds me of when I was searching for stereo components many moons ago for $ I could get a very good sounding system but for many times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22:03PM -0400, John wrote: Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that I've worn for the last 30 years. Timex makes, or at least used to, a series of watches branded Ironman or somesuch. They had two large buttons on the front and would do a very good job of taking lap times, or sector times. They have been getting progressively harder to find over the years. And the days when I lusted after the A* 135mm f/1.8 are past as well. Now it had better be a FA* 135mm f/1.8 and it needs a FF 135 DSLR to go with it. If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. I want full frame for my wide angle lenses. Although when it comes down to it, lets acknowledge the physics of the situation, and I want a mirrorless 24x36. Ideally, it will have an optical zoom rangefinder. If I'm shooting macro, where parallax would be an issue, then I can use the electronic display. On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On 7/23/2013 11:55 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Timex makes, or at least used to, a series of watches branded Ironman or somesuch. They had two large buttons on the front and would do a very good job of taking lap times, or sector times. They have been getting progressively harder to find over the years. I had the first iteration of the Ironman watch when I was a kid, and it's the only watch I ever owned longer than a month. It was pretty cool. My buddy and I used to see who could get the quickest start/stop time on the stopwatch function. Of course, that was before we learned to drink for amusement. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1577/cat/all Comes in K-mount. It's $249 at Amazon. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My buddy and I used to see who could get the quickest start/stop time on the stopwatch function. Of course, that was before we learned to drink for amusement. Mark! Walt, you really _do_ live in a small town, don't you? :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
No SMC though and plastic body. :( On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1577/cat/all Comes in K-mount. It's $249 at Amazon. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Yeah, but: All my DA* lenses have plastic bodies. Doesn't seem to hurt them. Kirk Tuck is an idiosyncratic dude, but he does portrait work I admire, and he loves this lens. That counts in my world. $249! That's almost free by many folks' standards. :-) On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: No SMC though and plastic body. :( On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1577/cat/all Comes in K-mount. It's $249 at Amazon. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
lol bruce. I'm only being half serious here. I do love me some metal SMC primes though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
I love the metal primes too. Every so often I carefully remove my DA 35/2.8 Ltd Macro from its leather cradle and in my best Gollum voice I say, My Precious. My Prec--ooo-uu-s! On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: lol bruce. I'm only being half serious here. I do love me some metal SMC primes though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Larry, check out Campmor http://www.campmor.com/ I got my last Ironman watch from them at a very reasonable price. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22:03PM -0400, John wrote: Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that I've worn for the last 30 years. Timex makes, or at least used to, a series of watches branded Ironman or somesuch. They had two large buttons on the front and would do a very good job of taking lap times, or sector times. They have been getting progressively harder to find over the years. And the days when I lusted after the A* 135mm f/1.8 are past as well. Now it had better be a FA* 135mm f/1.8 and it needs a FF 135 DSLR to go with it. If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. I want full frame for my wide angle lenses. Although when it comes down to it, lets acknowledge the physics of the situation, and I want a mirrorless 24x36. Ideally, it will have an optical zoom rangefinder. If I'm shooting macro, where parallax would be an issue, then I can use the electronic display. On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
electrolytic??? That should be electronic! I should really really proof read these before I post them. On 7/22/2013 11:20 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Timex's old mechanical design was an escapement mechanism which wasn't the most accurate, a good copy would give +/- 5 minutes a day, a bad copy much worse, however they were rugged as all get out. Timex today doesn't make any mechanical watches at all, and really current day electrolytic watch movements are all pretty much interchangeable, regardless of manufacture. On 7/22/2013 10:22 PM, John wrote: Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that I've worn for the last 30 years. And the days when I lusted after the A* 135mm f/1.8 are past as well. Now it had better be a FA* 135mm f/1.8 and it needs a FF 135 DSLR to go with it. On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Pretty much everything that's moderately priced these days has a plastic body, and use a lens hood... On 7/23/2013 2:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: No SMC though and plastic body. :( On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1577/cat/all Comes in K-mount. It's $249 at Amazon. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 02:28:52PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1577/cat/all Comes in K-mount. It's $249 at Amazon. I am *very* aware of this lens. Particlarly since my Bowers/Rokinon/Samyang 8/3.5 has turned out to be such a surprise gem. And while $249 is almost free, it's not quite free, and there are other places to spend my money that will make a bigger difference, especially since the MF 84/1.4 won't give me a lot that I don't already get with my 77/1.8. No Walt, I won't give you my 77ltd so that I have an excuse to by the 85/1.4. I've also been looking at some of the other 85/1.4 lenses out there, which do have autofocus. Does anyone know how the Sigma 85/1.4 compares optically with the Korean 85/1.4? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On 7/23/2013 6:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: No Walt, I won't give you my 77ltd so that I have an excuse to by the 85/1.4. I'm glad you didn't have to see me flounce out of the room and slam the door just now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On 7/23/2013 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: My buddy and I used to see who could get the quickest start/stop time on the stopwatch function. Of course, that was before we learned to drink for amusement. Mark! Walt, you really _do_ live in a small town, don't you? :-) -- -bmw I think we have a population of a whopping 350. Back then, we had a town dog, too. Oddly enough, his name was Bruce. :) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Frankly, if you were a Pentax shooter and you were considering spending $2500 for this lens, you would get more bang-for-the-buck by purchasing a Sony A900 (24.3MP Full Frame with Sony Exmor sensor in-body image stabilization) and then getting the Zeiss 135mm f1.8 (for Sony) for a total outlay of about the same amount of money. You'd give up the 1.5x longer FOV, but in exchange get more megapixels and a full frame sensor. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: A900 vs K-5ii (The K-5ii has almost 2 EV more dynamic range, which is huge.) On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Frankly, if you were a Pentax shooter and you were considering spending $2500 for this lens, you would get more bang-for-the-buck by purchasing a Sony A900 (24.3MP Full Frame with Sony Exmor sensor in-body image stabilization) and then getting the Zeiss 135mm f1.8 (for Sony) for a total outlay of about the same amount of money. You'd give up the 1.5x longer FOV, but in exchange get more megapixels and a full frame sensor. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On an APS-C camera it's like having a 200mm f1.8 for focusing and a 200mm f2.8 as far as DOF is concerned at any particular distance, when compared to a Full Frame camera. If it lives up to it's reputation, for optical quality, it will out perform any sensor with reasonable pixel density. If you need such a beast the asking price could well be seen as a bargain. There is literally nothing else in the Pentax system that compares to it. On 7/22/2013 3:07 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Time to go hold up a few banks ;) On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So its a status lens? I mean a Rolex still tells time like a Casio or Timex, so its mainly a status thing, but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? Reminds me of when I was searching for stereo components many moons ago for $ I could get a very good sounding system but for many times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The difference between a Rolex and a Timex is that you can beat off potential muggers with a Rolex and you won't damage the watch, whereas with a Timex no-one wants to mug you. B On 22 Jul 2013, at 21:02, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So its a status lens? I mean a Rolex still tells time like a Casio or Timex, so its mainly a status thing, but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? Reminds me of when I was searching for stereo components many moons ago for $ I could get a very good sounding system but for many times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. On 7/22/2013 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. On 7/22/2013 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, your A* 135mm f1.8 is _really_ old, pre-dates digital, and is missing that new lens smell. Plus it will certainly be suffering from random subatomic perturbations -- they all do eventually. I'll take it off your hands for fifty bucks. Can't hope for better. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. On 7/22/2013 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 23 July 2013 05:25, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On an APS-C camera it's like having a 200mm f1.8 for focusing and a 200mm f2.8 as far as DOF is concerned at any particular distance, when compared to a Full Frame camera. If it lives up to it's reputation, for optical quality, it will out perform any sensor with reasonable pixel density. If you need such a beast the asking price could well be seen as a bargain. There is literally nothing else in the Pentax system that compares to it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. I suspect it's reputation is in direct relationship to its rarity, it's certainly not stellar optically, been there, done that. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, your A* 135mm f1.8 is _really_ old, pre-dates digital, and is missing that new lens smell. Actually Bruce my comment was about the A* 200mm macro I don't have the A* 135 f1.8. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Well, your A* 135mm f1.8 is _really_ old, pre-dates digital, and is missing that new lens smell. Plus it will certainly be suffering from random subatomic perturbations -- they all do eventually. I'll take it off your hands for fifty bucks. Can't hope for better. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. On 7/22/2013 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The kmount is a convenience indeed. Yeah, I thought it was a bit high. I've been looking at the 2.5 takumars too. I might end up going that route since they are so much cheaper. At the apertures I'd be using it at mostly, I could easily just work with it stopped down a bit. It would be brighter than a lot of my other glass that only opens to f4 or so. Actually I know nothing about the f2 M85. I have been looking for an 85mm though. I'm tempted to convert my beat k-7 into an M42 camera and leave the adapter on it all the time. I would like to get some more M42 glass On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Long ago, during film days I tested the Pentax 135's. I found they ranked A135/1.8, K135/2.5, M135/3.5, and far behind the Takumar 135/2.5? in K mount. Rob S. later introduced me to the Voightlander A125/2.5 which is very sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that I've worn for the last 30 years. And the days when I lusted after the A* 135mm f/1.8 are past as well. Now it had better be a FA* 135mm f/1.8 and it needs a FF 135 DSLR to go with it. On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beat off doesn't have quite the same meaning in the U.S. On 7/22/2013 4:25 PM, Bob W wrote: The difference between a Rolex and a Timex is that you can beat off potential muggers with a Rolex and you won't damage the watch, whereas with a Timex no-one wants to mug you. B On 22 Jul 2013, at 21:02, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So its a status lens? I mean a Rolex still tells time like a Casio or Timex, so its mainly a status thing, but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? Reminds me of when I was searching for stereo components many moons ago for $ I could get a very good sounding system but for many times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So you didn't care what it's worth, you just wanted to rub it in. On 7/22/2013 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. On 7/22/2013 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmmm...pentax forums reviews rate the M85 f2 and K135 f2.5 fairly highly in terms of sharpness.I really do want an 85. I think I might have to pick up an M135 3.5 for cheap to see how I get along with that FL. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: The kmount is a convenience indeed. Yeah, I thought it was a bit high. I've been looking at the 2.5 takumars too. I might end up going that route since they are so much cheaper. At the apertures I'd be using it at mostly, I could easily just work with it stopped down a bit. It would be brighter than a lot of my other glass that only opens to f4 or so. Actually I know nothing about the f2 M85. I have been looking for an 85mm though. I'm tempted to convert my beat k-7 into an M42 camera and leave the adapter on it all the time. I would like to get some more M42 glass On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Every lens is sharp at f8 or f11. The difference between the Big Boys and the others are how sharp it is wide open. (Yes, all will be less sharp than they are at f/8 but comparing the performance wide open is what you are really paying for). On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm...pentax forums reviews rate the M85 f2 and K135 f2.5 fairly highly in terms of sharpness.I really do want an 85. I think I might have to pick up an M135 3.5 for cheap to see how I get along with that FL. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: The kmount is a convenience indeed. Yeah, I thought it was a bit high. I've been looking at the 2.5 takumars too. I might end up going that route since they are so much cheaper. At the apertures I'd be using it at mostly, I could easily just work with it stopped down a bit. It would be brighter than a lot of my other glass that only opens to f4 or so. Actually I know nothing about the f2 M85. I have been looking for an 85mm though. I'm tempted to convert my beat k-7 into an M42 camera and leave the adapter on it all the time. I would like to get some more M42 glass On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
Not really, everyone has a price. -Original Message- From: John johnsess...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 So you didn't care what it's worth, you just wanted to rub it in. On 7/22/2013 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. On 7/22/2013 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. So what does that make my 200mm f4.0 SMC A* Ed Macro worth? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pentax ever offers a FF camera, the price will probably easily jump a grand (minimum). Frankly, I don't expect it to be available for long before somebody snags it. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're rare, and Pentax is unlikely to ever make another, so I guess that they're worth that much to someone. If I had an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Meanwhile back at the homestead, granny, was busy beating off the Indians... On 7/22/2013 10:23 PM, John wrote: Beat off doesn't have quite the same meaning in the U.S. On 7/22/2013 4:25 PM, Bob W wrote: The difference between a Rolex and a Timex is that you can beat off potential muggers with a Rolex and you won't damage the watch, whereas with a Timex no-one wants to mug you. B On 22 Jul 2013, at 21:02, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So its a status lens? I mean a Rolex still tells time like a Casio or Timex, so its mainly a status thing, but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? Reminds me of when I was searching for stereo components many moons ago for $ I could get a very good sounding system but for many times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Timex's old mechanical design was an escapement mechanism which wasn't the most accurate, a good copy would give +/- 5 minutes a day, a bad copy much worse, however they were rugged as all get out. Timex today doesn't make any mechanical watches at all, and really current day electrolytic watch movements are all pretty much interchangeable, regardless of manufacture. On 7/22/2013 10:22 PM, John wrote: Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that I've worn for the last 30 years. And the days when I lusted after the A* 135mm f/1.8 are past as well. Now it had better be a FA* 135mm f/1.8 and it needs a FF 135 DSLR to go with it. On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
I have both of those, I paid quite a bit less for the K 135 f2.5 and a bit more for the M 85mm f2.0 They are easily worth the money asked if they're in good condition. I use the 85mm in low light a lot, so I'm often shooting wide open in low light, in Av mode so I don't miss the lens having an A setting. On 7/22/2013 8:52 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
The M 85 was designed as a portrait lens, maximum sharpness and resolution isn't the highest priority in lens indented for that useee. That said I find it more than sharp enough stopped down a bit on film, and the center is a bit sharper, so it doesn't matter that much on APS-C digital. When the light is low the fact that it's only about as sharp wide open as a moderately good zoom is hardly a handicap, and it's extreme small size, about the same size as a 55mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 makes up for a lot. Sure you could have the K 85mm f1.8 for only about a hundred two, dollars more, (and the smc Takumar 85mm f1.9 is considered a collectors item so you're going to pay a premium for that as well), from KEH, when it's in stock but that lens is twice the size of the M. The M is a little jewel but it's a compromise like all other things in life. On 7/22/2013 9:10 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
There's also the relatively rare K 135 f3.5 which is actually a bit sharper than the M version. Once again in keeping with the M designation the M is quite a bit more compact. The K 135mm f3.5 is almost as big as the M 200 f4.0. On 7/22/2013 10:03 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Long ago, during film days I tested the Pentax 135's. I found they ranked A135/1.8, K135/2.5, M135/3.5, and far behind the Takumar 135/2.5? in K mount. Rob S. later introduced me to the Voightlander A125/2.5 which is very sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8
the biggest difference between the k85 and the m85 is the bokeh of the k is much much better than the m. the m has horrible busy bokeh. On 7/22/2013 11:40 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: The M 85 was designed as a portrait lens, maximum sharpness and resolution isn't the highest priority in lens indented for that useee. That said I find it more than sharp enough stopped down a bit on film, and the center is a bit sharper, so it doesn't matter that much on APS-C digital. When the light is low the fact that it's only about as sharp wide open as a moderately good zoom is hardly a handicap, and it's extreme small size, about the same size as a 55mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.4 makes up for a lot. Sure you could have the K 85mm f1.8 for only about a hundred two, dollars more, (and the smc Takumar 85mm f1.9 is considered a collectors item so you're going to pay a premium for that as well), from KEH, when it's in stock but that lens is twice the size of the M. The M is a little jewel but it's a compromise like all other things in life. On 7/22/2013 9:10 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Read some reviews. The M85mm f2 is considered quite inferior optically to ANY of the Pentax 85mm f1.8/1.9 offerings. And that K 135mm f2.5 is a wee bit overpriced, IMHO. You can get the same optical design and SMC coatings with the S-M-C Takumar version 2 for a fair amount less (although the K-mount is a convenience. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/232213-sale-pentax-super-multi-coated-k-135mm-f-2-5-m-85mm-f-2-a.html Only $300 or so. A steal comparatively. If I had $300, i would buy this right now. In fact, I've been waiting for one to show up. Same goes for the 85 f2 that is listed there. Dammit, why must the rarer lenses on my wishlist only seemingly appear when I am broke? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). Darren, I'd sell it when they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around it ! It one of the lenses I'll never sell as long as I'm on this side of the grass I'm still shooting Pentax. It was actually recommended to me by a Nikon pro when I was taking a workshop from him and he saw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. Quite a recommendation I'd say. In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
