Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Is that what it's called?
A print film?

keith whaley

Steve Pearson wrote:
> 
> Guys at my local camera store say this is a fairly new
> film, that is very good.  Bought a 3 pack to try it,
> instead of the Portra 400VC.  Anyone out there tried
> this new "High Defintion" film yet?  If so, how did
> you like the results, and what ISO did you use?



Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Pearson
Yes, it is a print film.  Yes, it is now labeled as
"High Defintion".  I think it is just Royal Gold
re-named...

--- Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is that what it's called?
> A print film?
> 
> keith whaley
> 
> Steve Pearson wrote:
> > 
> > Guys at my local camera store say this is a fairly
> new
> > film, that is very good.  Bought a 3 pack to try
> it,
> > instead of the Portra 400VC.  Anyone out there
> tried
> > this new "High Defintion" film yet?  If so, how
> did
> > you like the results, and what ISO did you use?
> 


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Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Alan Chan
Kodak seemed to have the habit of keep relabeling their films.

regards,
Alan Chan
Yes, it is a print film.  Yes, it is now labeled as
"High Defintion".  I think it is just Royal Gold
re-named...
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Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
The first 5 shots here: http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/Fred/index.html
were done with UC. The rest are Fuji 400. I'm not sure what you can tell 
by looking at smallish files on a monitor. Prints done on Royal Kodak 
paper look really good. The film has the same PGI as VC160 which is 
lower than the other 400 Portra films.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bruce:

Do you (or anyone else here on the list) have sample
photos that I could look at, where you used Kodak
Portra 400UC?  I'm curious to see the colors,
especially with skin tones.  I have not shot it yet,
and would appreciate a sneak peak before buying some.
Thanks for the referral to Kodak-looks like a good
deal to me!
 





Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Pearson
Thanks Bruce, 

the shots look good to me!  JOOC, what does PGI stand
for?  Sorry I'm technically-challenged.

Based on your comment, would you say that it shows
similiar characteristics to the VC160, when you make
enlargements?

Thanks again for everyone's help!




--- Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first 5 shots here:
> http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/Fred/index.html
> were done with UC. The rest are Fuji 400. I'm not
> sure what you can tell 
> by looking at smallish files on a monitor. Prints
> done on Royal Kodak 
> paper look really good. The film has the same PGI as
> VC160 which is 
> lower than the other 400 Portra films.
> 
> BR
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Bruce:
> >
> >Do you (or anyone else here on the list) have
> sample
> >photos that I could look at, where you used Kodak
> >Portra 400UC?  I'm curious to see the colors,
> >especially with skin tones.  I have not shot it
> yet,
> >and would appreciate a sneak peak before buying
> some.
> >
> >Thanks for the referral to Kodak-looks like a good
> >deal to me!
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 


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Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Caveman
Steve Pearson wrote:

JOOC, what does PGI stand
for?
"Print Graininess Index". Kodak observed that their films compare bad 
with other manufacturers when the grain is measured using the standard 
"RMS" method. So they decided to stop publishing RMS data and replace it 
with their own PGI measurement. Nobody knows how this PGI relates to 
RMS. So you can't anymore compare Kodak data with other manufacturers 
data. See ? Problems have simple solutions.

cheers,
caveman


Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
PGI = Print Grain Index It's Kodak's system for evaluating film grain. 
The grain is the same for UC400 and VC160. Other characteristics such as 
saturation and contrast may be different. You can look at the data 
sheets on the Kodak site.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Bruce, 

the shots look good to me!  JOOC, what does PGI stand
for?  Sorry I'm technically-challenged.
Based on your comment, would you say that it shows
similiar characteristics to the VC160, when you make
enlargements?
Thanks again for everyone's help!



--- Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

The first 5 shots here:
http://home.att.net/~b_rubenstein/Fred/index.html
were done with UC. The rest are Fuji 400. I'm not
sure what you can tell 
by looking at smallish files on a monitor. Prints
done on Royal Kodak 
paper look really good. The film has the same PGI as
VC160 which is 
lower than the other 400 Portra films.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   

Bruce:

Do you (or anyone else here on the list) have
 

sample
   

photos that I could look at, where you used Kodak
Portra 400UC?  I'm curious to see the colors,
especially with skin tones.  I have not shot it
 

yet,
   

and would appreciate a sneak peak before buying
 

some.
   

Thanks for the referral to Kodak-looks like a good
deal to me!


 

   



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Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-26 Thread Bruce Dayton
I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San Francisco to Maui.  I
didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and just let it go through
the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on scanners.  I  had no
ill effects for the two scans that occurred.  Hand checking could be a
bit iffy and time consuming.


Bruce



Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you wrote:

BR> I would treat the film like any other 400 film. I haven't flown since 
BR> security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a hand inspection. Just 
BR> don't put it in checked luggage. I don't worry about keeping print film 
BR> refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at high temps.

BR> BR

BR> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400.
>>
>>1.  Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines at
>>airports?  I have 2 trips planned over the next few
>>months (Hawaii & Orlando), and I'm giving serious
>>thought to using this film exclusively.  I might order
>>a few packs!
>>
>>2.  Based on these locations, is keeping the film
>>refrigerated an issue?
>>
>>
>>  
>>




Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Pearson
Thanks Bruce for the info.  I'm curious, what other
films did you shoot, and how much did you bring? 
Maybe some Velvia?

Thanks again,
Steve


--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San
> Francisco to Maui.  I
> didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and just
> let it go through
> the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on
> scanners.  I  had no
> ill effects for the two scans that occurred.  Hand
> checking could be a
> bit iffy and time consuming.
> 
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you wrote:
> 
> BR> I would treat the film like any other 400 film.
> I haven't flown since 
> BR> security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a
> hand inspection. Just 
> BR> don't put it in checked luggage. I don't worry
> about keeping print film 
> BR> refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at
> high temps.
> 
> BR> BR
> 
> BR> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >>A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400.
> >>
> >>1.  Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines at
> >>airports?  I have 2 trips planned over the next
> few
> >>months (Hawaii & Orlando), and I'm giving serious
> >>thought to using this film exclusively.  I might
> order
> >>a few packs!
> >>
> >>2.  Based on these locations, is keeping the film
> >>refrigerated an issue?
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> 
> 


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Re: Kodak "High Definition" 400 speed film?

2003-03-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Steve,

I have just seen proofs.  Keep in mind that these are different films.
I use them for different purposes.  The Konica does very well in
bright light and stronger contrast.  The Agfa Ultra is new for me.  I
used to shoot the old Ultra 50.  That film was punchy and did best in
diffused light.  My PUG submission for the coming month was shot on
Agfa Ultra.

I am a firm believer in multiple film types for proper situations.  I
guess I don't have a single favorite.  Konica Impressa 50 for scenics
in good light.  Agfa Ultra or Optima for scenics in more diffused
light.  Portra 160NC for people.  Reala as the most general purpose -
pretty good on scenics, relatively low contrast and decent skin tones.


Bruce



Friday, March 28, 2003, 10:17:58 AM, you wrote:

SP> Bruce:

SP> I have not tried either the Agfa or Konica films you
SP> mentioned.  I assume you have seen the prints by now. 
SP> Which film did you like the best?

SP> Thanks again for the info!


SP> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Steve,
>> 
>> Let's see...this was to be more of a pleasure trip
>> than a photo
>> outing.  Coupled with my wife having her ankle in an
>> air cast (walking
>> variety) that limited our plans somewhat.  I only
>> took an MX plus full
>> arsenal of lenses (no zooms other than fisheye) and
>> the Coolpix 990.
>> In our short time, I only shot about 6 rolls of film
>> but had a great
>> time.
>> 
>> So I took more than enough film.  I took Agfa Ultra
>> 100, Agfa Optima
>> Prestige (both 100 and 400 speed), Konica Impressa
>> 50 and 2 rolls of
>> Provia 100F.  Only shot 1 roll of 400 Optima - the
>> rest was either
>> Ultra or Konica Impressa.  Plenty of light over
>> there especially when
>> using 2.8 or faster primes.
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 3:35:26 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> SP> Thanks Bruce for the info.  I'm curious, what
>> other
>> SP> films did you shoot, and how much did you bring?
>> 
>> SP> Maybe some Velvia?
>> 
>> SP> Thanks again,
>> SP> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> SP> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I just got back from Hawaii - flew from San
>> >> Francisco to Maui.  I
>> >> didn't take anything faster than 400 speed and
>> just
>> >> let it go through
>> >> the x-ray with my camera - this is the carry on
>> >> scanners.  I  had no
>> >> ill effects for the two scans that occurred. 
>> Hand
>> >> checking could be a
>> >> bit iffy and time consuming.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Bruce
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 10:23:29 AM, you
>> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> BR> I would treat the film like any other 400
>> film.
>> >> I haven't flown since 
>> >> BR> security has gotten tighter. I would prefer a
>> >> hand inspection. Just 
>> >> BR> don't put it in checked luggage. I don't
>> worry
>> >> about keeping print film 
>> >> BR> refrigerated unless it's going to be weeks at
>> >> high temps.
>> >> 
>> >> BR> BR
>> >> 
>> >> BR> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >>A few more questions about Kodak Portra UC400.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>1.  Is it safe to send thru the x-ray machines
>> at
>> >> >>airports?  I have 2 trips planned over the next
>> >> few
>> >> >>months (Hawaii & Orlando), and I'm giving
>> serious
>> >> >>thought to using this film exclusively.  I
>> might
>> >> order
>> >> >>a few packs!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>2.  Based on these locations, is keeping the
>> film
>> >> >>refrigerated an issue?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  
>> >> >>
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> 
>> 
>> SP>
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