Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-18 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:47, Cotty wrote:

> (34 deg c today, mags court biker doing 154 mph + Fairford Air Tatoo
> preshoot, BBQ Koftas plus salad and a pint each of Wychwood's Fiddlers
> Elbow and Marston's Pedigree followed by a very large Bailey's Irish
> Cream (whiskey) on the rocks*parp*)
Pity I missede the 34C here in Minety. The cominge two days it will be
busy with traffic goinge to the air tattoo. Only another weeke before we
start movinge back to the Netherlands, hope it won'te be too hote by
then.
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-18 Thread whickersworld
Rob Brigham wrote:
>
> Eh?  But I had already drunk half of it (the bottom half)!



LOL!!!  I was only kidding ...  ;-)



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Caveman a écrit:
Michel Carrère-Gée a écrit:

Caveman a écrit:


That should be "L'homme des cavernes a écrit:" ;-)
Cave ou caverne ??




Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 11:14:41 AM, you wrote:

> Bob Walkden wrote:
>>
>> We're not the only ones. The French do it too. The Pont
> Neuf (New
>> Bridge) was built in the 1500s - and is the oldest bridge
> over the
>> Seine.


> The literal translation of "Pont Neuf" is "Bridge 9".  Where
> did "New" come from?

Convergent evolution. Different Latin words - novis and novem - have
evolved into the same French word neuf, which has stayed in the
language and evolved further into nouveau/nouvelle. Neuf, like ancien
(which is a false friend), is quite a subtle word. We don't really
have a direct equivalent and normally use 'new' for both 'nouveau' and
'neuf'.

> "Neu" is German for "New".  The French words for "New" are
> nouveau and nouvelle (m/f).  This would mean that the
> literal translation into French of "New Bridge" would be
> "Pont Nouveau".

> Perhaps we should discuss this further over a slightly
> chilled glass of "Beaujolais Neuf".  

Pas de probleme on that one!

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Wednesday, July 16, 2003, 9:13:25 AM, you wrote:

> Reminds me of the old 'joke' that goes:

> Two American tourists arrive at Runnymede at the side of the Thames to
> find loads of people running around in Medieval costume. They stop a
> passing minstrel.
> "Say Buddy, what's going on?"
> "We're celebrating the anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta!" The
> minstrel replies.
> "When was it?" the American asks
> "1215" comes the reply.
> The American looks at his watch and turns to his partner, "Gee Honey, we
> just missed it"

> Like you say, a different concept of time :-)

I know a similar one, which a friend of mine assures me is true - he
says he was there when it happened.

A guide was taking a group of tourists around Skipton Castle
(http://www.skiptoncastle.co.uk/). As he was talking aeroplanes flew over
regularly from the nearby airport. Eventually one of the tourists, frustrated
by the constant interruptions to the commentary, said 'Geez, with all the money
they musta had you'd think they'd have built their castle further from the
airport'.

(collapse of tour guide)

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Caveman
Michel Carrère-Gée a écrit:

Caveman a écrit:
That should be "L'homme des cavernes a écrit:" ;-)



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Caveman a écrit:
whickersworld wrote:

The literal translation of "Pont Neuf" is "Bridge 9".  Where
did "New" come from?


neuf, neuve adj. et n. m. I. adj. 1. Qui est fait depuis peu. Maison neuve.
 2. Qui n’a pas encore servi. Un habit neuf. ­ Loc. Faire peau neuve: 
muer, en parlant du serpent; fig. se transformer entièrement. Salle de 
spectacle qui fait peau neuve, qui est entièrement réaménagée, refaite.
 3. Plus récent (par oppos. à ancien, à vieux). La vieille ville et la 
ville neuve.

cheers,
caveman
In French : neuf = that has been constructed lately
Once bridges were in wood, when they were destroyed one constructed
another one that became he « pont neuf ».
Later, one constructed bridges in stone and the first bridge in stone
took the name of « pont neuf », it resisted the raw. Later, one
constructed other bridges more news; but as they have not been
destroyed, them « pont neuf » kept their name and it”s the oldest bridge!
Michel
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Herb Chong
it means the same thing in Old English as it does now on both sides of the ocean.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 09:32
Subject: Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not


> Here, that is quite a vulgar term.  Of course, we're not as cultured as 
> you are over there, living in ancient baronial estates.





Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Caveman
whickersworld wrote:
The literal translation of "Pont Neuf" is "Bridge 9".  Where
did "New" come from?
neuf, neuve adj. et n. m. I. adj. 1. Qui est fait depuis peu. Maison neuve.
 2. Qui n’a pas encore servi. Un habit neuf. ­ Loc. Faire peau neuve: 
muer, en parlant du serpent; fig. se transformer entièrement. Salle de 
spectacle qui fait peau neuve, qui est entièrement réaménagée, refaite.
 3. Plus récent (par oppos. à ancien, à vieux). La vieille ville et la 
ville neuve.

cheers,
caveman


Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Dan Matyola
Bob:

Here, that is quite a vulgar term.  Of course, we're not as cultured as 
you are over there, living in ancient baronial estates.

Bob Walkden wrote:

what's precious about it? Somebody else raised this, and I merely
joined in. Everything there is just a plain fact, which I thought some
people might find interesting and amusing in the context. If you don't
that's fine, but you don't have to react like a twat.




Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Stoddart

> > Quote may be inaccurate but the point is self-evident.
> > Those Brits have a fascinating handle on the concept of time. :)

Reminds me of the old 'joke' that goes:

Two American tourists arrive at Runnymede at the side of the Thames to
find loads of people running around in Medieval costume. They stop a
passing minstrel.
"Say Buddy, what's going on?"
"We're celebrating the anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta!" The
minstrel replies.
"When was it?" the American asks
"1215" comes the reply.
The American looks at his watch and turns to his partner, "Gee Honey, we
just missed it"

Like you say, a different concept of time :-)

Chris




Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Cotty
>> My, aren't you preciousd!
>
>what's precious about it? Somebody else raised this, and I merely
>joined in. Everything there is just a plain fact, which I thought some
>people might find interesting and amusing in the context. If you don't
>that's fine, but you don't have to react like a twat.

He means a twate.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 11:27:11 PM, you wrote:

> My, aren't you preciousd!

what's precious about it? Somebody else raised this, and I merely
joined in. Everything there is just a plain fact, which I thought some
people might find interesting and amusing in the context. If you don't
that's fine, but you don't have to react like a twat.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Bob Walkden wrote:

>>well, that's very new indeed. Most of us live in houses that you guys
>>would treat as museums. My house was built in 1896 and is perfectly
>>ordinary. My sister's was built in 1837, which is no age at all. My
>>boarding house at school was built in 1585.
>>
>>And New College, Oxford, was founded in 1379.
>>
>>We're not the only ones. The French do it too. The Pont Neuf (New
>>Bridge) was built in the 1500s - and is the oldest bridge over the
>>Seine.
>>



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
It drives crazy when vendors do this on eBay. And they do it in 
ignorance,  not because lense is an acceptable spelling in a dictionary 
they have never consulted.

Joe



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Dan Matyola
My, aren't you preciousd!

Bob Walkden wrote:

well, that's very new indeed. Most of us live in houses that you guys
would treat as museums. My house was built in 1896 and is perfectly
ordinary. My sister's was built in 1837, which is no age at all. My
boarding house at school was built in 1585.
And New College, Oxford, was founded in 1379.

We're not the only ones. The French do it too. The Pont Neuf (New
Bridge) was built in the 1500s - and is the oldest bridge over the
Seine.





Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 10:07:07 PM, you wrote:

> Is it one of those American/Brit things.  You know, Yank-color Bloke-colour,
> Yank-lens Bloke-lense.  :-)

> Bill

it's not a current British spelling. I always assumed it was American
ignorance - a back formation from the plural.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 8:54:20 PM, you wrote:

> As when C. S. Lewis, portrayed by Anthony Hopkins in the movie Shadowlands,
> provided his lady friend with a tour of Cambridge University:
> "That's the new building."
> "When was it built?"
> "1733"

> Quote may be inaccurate but the point is self-evident.
> Those Brits have a fascinating handle on the concept of time. :)

well, that's very new indeed. Most of us live in houses that you guys
would treat as museums. My house was built in 1896 and is perfectly
ordinary. My sister's was built in 1837, which is no age at all. My
boarding house at school was built in 1585.

And New College, Oxford, was founded in 1379.

We're not the only ones. The French do it too. The Pont Neuf (New
Bridge) was built in the 1500s - and is the oldest bridge over the
Seine.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Shaun Canning
I suppose there is something relevant to photography, and more
specifically Pentax, in dragging Tasmanian Aboriginal people into this
thread? I just wish I knew what the relevance was?

Cheers

Shaun Canning
Cultural Heritage Services
High Street, Broadford, 
Vic, 3658
Mob: 0414-967 644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.heritageservices.com.au


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Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2003 2:28 AM
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Subject: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

Don't wish to be boring but can we eradicate the growing tendency to
stick an e on the end of lens. It's incorrect, unnecessary, and a waste
of a keystroke.

Unless of course these folk are using the Tasmanian Aboriginal spelling,
in which case I apologise profusely

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Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Cotty
>Don't wish to be boring but can we eradicate the growing tendency to
>stick an e on the end of lens. It's incorrect, unnecessary, and a waste
>of a keystroke.

Bloodye helle Ie couldn'te agreee moree, thise dispiccablee habite hase
gote toe stope!

(34 deg c today, mags court biker doing 154 mph + Fairford Air Tatoo
preshoot, BBQ Koftas plus salad and a pint each of Wychwood's Fiddlers
Elbow and Marston's Pedigree followed by a very large Bailey's Irish
Cream (whiskey) on the rocks*parp*)

I raise my glass to the PDMLe


Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Len Paris


 
> We da Tasmanians laik our lenses wid some e on da end. It 
> maiks da flair go avay...
> 
> ---
> Boris Liberman
> www.geocities.com/dunno57


Never type with your mouth full.  It makes you sound funny. :-)

Len
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Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Bill Owens
Is it one of those American/Brit things.  You know, Yank-color Bloke-colour,
Yank-lens Bloke-lense.  :-)

Bill




Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Leonard Paris
I'd use the pseudonym of "Grey Lensman" but E. E. Smith would probably send 
Rod "the Rock" Kinnison to break both of my knees. ;-)

Len
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From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:41:18 -0400
According to Merriam-Webster (10 Ed) both lens and lense are acceptable
as the singular form of the noun.  I suspect it might  be one of those
cases where the error became so common that it was just accepted as
legitimate.  It also cites (right below) the use of "lens" as a
transitive verb meaning to film something and the word "lensman" as a
synonym for photographer (which I really like).  No mention of
"lensperson" ;-)
Steve (the amateur lensman)

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Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
According to Merriam-Webster (10 Ed) both lens and lense are acceptable
as the singular form of the noun.  I suspect it might  be one of those
cases where the error became so common that it was just accepted as
legitimate.  It also cites (right below) the use of "lens" as a
transitive verb meaning to film something and the word "lensman" as a
synonym for photographer (which I really like).  No mention of
"lensperson" ;-)


Steve (the amateur lensman)


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/03 12:27PM >>>
Don't wish to be boring but can we eradicate the growing tendency to
stick an e on the end of lens. It's incorrect, unnecessary, and a waste
of a keystroke.

Unless of course these folk are using the Tasmanian Aboriginal
spelling, in which case I apologise profusely

AB

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Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread Bill Owens
Or unless they've intended it to be plural and left off the last 's'
(lenses) :-)

Bill

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: LENS it is, LENSE it is not


> Don't wish to be boring but can we eradicate the growing tendency to stick
an e on the end of lens. It's incorrect, unnecessary, and a waste of a
keystroke.
>
> Unless of course these folk are using the Tasmanian Aboriginal spelling,
in which case I apologise profusely
>
> AB
>
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Re: LENS it is, LENSE it is not

2003-07-15 Thread brooksdj
> 
> Unless of course these folk are using the Tasmanian Aboriginal spelling, in which 
> case I
apologise profusely
> 
> AB

Apology accepted.

Dave