Re: Lightroom strangeness
- Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax List" Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Lightroom strangeness On my MacBook Pro, the Lightroom screen has a grey bar at the top with red, yellow, and green buttons on the far left, and the name of the catalog in the center. On this iMac, the same version of Lightroom lacks said feature. Too bad, because it's nice to be able to hide it with a click on the yellow button. The typically turd-like Adobe "documentation" has no mention that I can find of how to make this bar appear or disappear. Any wisdom out there? none here--windows xp user ;- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
Condolences; but at least you don't have Vista... Rick --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Christine Aguila wrote: > > > > Any wisdom out there? > > > none here--windows xp user ;- > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Jun 29, 2009, at 21:06, Rick Womer wrote: On my MacBook Pro, the Lightroom screen has a grey bar at the top with red, yellow, and green buttons on the far left, and the name of the catalog in the center. On this iMac, the same version of Lightroom lacks said feature. Too bad, because it's nice to be able to hide it with a click on the yellow button. The typically turd-like Adobe "documentation" has no mention that I can find of how to make this bar appear or disappear. Any wisdom out there? Press "F" to cycle through the screen modes. Sounds like you may be in "Full Screen" mode on the iMac. Same as selecting something from the "Window / Screen Mode" menu. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
Bingo! Thanks! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Charles Robinson wrote: > > On my MacBook Pro, the Lightroom screen has a grey bar > at the top with red, yellow, and green buttons on the far > left, and the name of the catalog in the center. > > > > On this iMac, the same version of Lightroom lacks said > feature. Too bad, because it's nice to be able to hide > it with a click on the yellow button. > > > > The typically turd-like Adobe "documentation" has no > mention that I can find of how to make this bar appear or > disappear. > > > > Any wisdom out there? > > > > Press "F" to cycle through the screen modes. Sounds > like you may be in "Full Screen" mode on the iMac. > > Same as selecting something from the "Window / Screen Mode" > menu. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
Tell me about it. I have 50 gigs left on my hard drive, and I have to come up with a solution fast that doesn't involve buying a new Vista computer. I'm thinking 2 TB externals hooked up via firewire--I've got 2 firewire ports. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Lightroom strangeness Condolences; but at least you don't have Vista... Rick --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Christine Aguila wrote: > > Any wisdom out there? none here--windows xp user ;- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
Be brave...open up the box and install a second internal drive. Then use the Firewire for your backup drive(s). ;>] -p Christine Aguila wrote: Tell me about it. I have 50 gigs left on my hard drive, and I have to come up with a solution fast that doesn't involve buying a new Vista computer. I'm thinking 2 TB externals hooked up via firewire--I've got 2 firewire ports. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Lightroom strangeness Condolences; but at least you don't have Vista... Rick --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Christine Aguila wrote: > > Any wisdom out there? none here--windows xp user ;- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.0/2209 - Release Date: 06/29/09 14:43:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Condolences; but at least you don't have Vista... > > Rick > Why? It's better than XP by a fair margin if your hardware's supported. Some of thed efault services are pigs, but I turned them off and it runs quite well. I've actually had 4 Vista machines now (2 laptops, 1 desktop, one netbook/tablet), 2 of which are still running Vista (sold one laptop, the desktop is now a server running Linux). You won't get me back to XP. -Adam >From his Vista x64 machine -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/6/30 Christine Aguila : > I have to come up with a solution fast that doesn't involve buying a new > Vista computer. I read just a day or two ago that M$ will soon be offering free Win7 upgrades to buyers of Vista loaded computers, to overcome just the kind of resistance that you're feeling. regards, Anthony "Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight" (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
Anthony Farr wrote: 2009/6/30 Christine Aguila : I have to come up with a solution fast that doesn't involve buying a new Vista computer. I read just a day or two ago that M$ will soon be offering free Win7 upgrades to buyers of Vista loaded computers, to overcome just the kind of resistance that you're feeling. One some new machines with Vista, it's possible and legal to downgrade them to XP if you're that anti-Vista (I am). However, I've been playing with the "preview version" (RC1) of Windows 7 and it's much more usable than Vista on the same hardware, at least on the hardware I've been using. Now if they'd just stop hiding all the settings in different places for each new release of Windows. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax List" Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Lightroom strangeness On my MacBook Pro, the Lightroom screen has a grey bar at the top with red, yellow, and green buttons on the far left, and the name of the catalog in the center. On this iMac, the same version of Lightroom lacks said feature. Too bad, because it's nice to be able to hide it with a click on the yellow button. The typically turd-like Adobe "documentation" has no mention that I can find of how to make this bar appear or disappear. Any wisdom out there? none here--windows xp user ;- In case no one else has. MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 08:33:39AM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit: > Now if they'd just stop hiding all the settings in different places > for each new release of Windows. Different Windows releases are different operating systems with similar graphical front ends. This occasionally leaks into the GUI. :) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: > Anthony Farr wrote: >> >> 2009/6/30 Christine Aguila : >>> >>> I have to come up with a solution fast that doesn't involve buying a new >>> Vista computer. >> >> I read just a day or two ago that M$ will soon be offering free Win7 >> upgrades to buyers of Vista loaded computers, to overcome just the >> kind of resistance that you're feeling. > > One some new machines with Vista, it's possible and legal to downgrade them > to XP if you're that anti-Vista (I am). However, I've been playing with the > "preview version" (RC1) of Windows 7 and it's much more usable than Vista on > the same hardware, at least on the hardware I've been using. Now if they'd > just stop hiding all the settings in different places for each new release > of Windows. > > -- > Thanks, > DougF (KG4LMZ) I tried Windows 7 RC1. I'll stick with Vista. Performance is better under an optimized copy of Vista and the UI is less broken. The only real problem with Vista today is that MS insists on leaving certain performance-robbing services on by default. Namely their Search indexing and ReadyBoost services. ReadyBoost in particular is suposedly a performance enancement, but it eats more CPU than it gains you in launch speed boosts. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Graydon wrote: Different Windows releases are different operating systems with similar graphical front ends. I don't know about that, the only two Windows releases which had similar GUI where NT4 and NT5 (Windows 2000). XP had Luna, Vista Aero and 7 I don't even care to know. Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Jul 1, 2009, at 06:15 , P. J. Alling wrote: none here--windows xp user ;- In case no one else has. MARK! Nice one PJ. :—) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 07:17:13PM +0200, Thomas Bohn scripsit: > On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Graydon wrote: >> Different Windows releases are different operating systems with >> similar graphical front ends. > > I don't know about that, the only two Windows releases which had > similar GUI where NT4 and NT5 (Windows 2000). XP had Luna, Vista Aero > and 7 I don't even care to know. I don't mean the GUI was the same implementation (or implemented with the same widget kit); I mean it behaves more or less the same way as the previous GUI, or can be caused to. (XP's "classic view" mode, for instance.) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Thomas Bohn wrote: > On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Graydon wrote: > >> Different Windows releases are different operating systems with similar >> graphical front ends. > > I don't know about that, the only two Windows releases which had similar GUI > where NT4 and NT5 (Windows 2000). XP had Luna, Vista Aero and 7 I don't even > care to know. > > Thomas Actually, you can get the classic UI very easily in XP and Vista by disabling the Themes Service. The new GUI's are just themes running overtop of the old one. The only differences become the Start Menu changes. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Graydon wrote: > On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 07:17:13PM +0200, Thomas Bohn scripsit: >> On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Graydon wrote: >>> Different Windows releases are different operating systems with >>> similar graphical front ends. >> >> I don't know about that, the only two Windows releases which had >> similar GUI where NT4 and NT5 (Windows 2000). XP had Luna, Vista Aero >> and 7 I don't even care to know. > > I don't mean the GUI was the same implementation (or implemented with > the same widget kit); I mean it behaves more or less the same way as the > previous GUI, or can be caused to. (XP's "classic view" mode, for > instance.) > > -- Graydon > The reality is that the basic OS hasn't changed significantly since NT5/Win2K, only the GUI has. Vista's infamous breaking of older drivers was simply an enforced requirement for the newer driver model which was the real backend change for XP from 2000. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Actually, you can get the classic UI very easily in XP and Vista by disabling the Themes Service. The new GUI's are just themes running overtop of the old one. The only differences become the Start Menu changes. I thought, die classic UI is just a theme for the new GUI. Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Bingo! Thanks! Glad you got that sorted out. One of the most often forgotten about but most useful LR UI features is to press "Command(Control on Windows)-/". That puts up the list of keyboard shortcuts which is specific to each module, some of which are the same across all modules. You can learn a lot about how to use LR efficiently by just studying the keyboard controls like this. (BTW: Click once on the displayed list to put the list away.) -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom strangeness
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Thomas Bohn wrote: > On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> Actually, you can get the classic UI very easily in XP and Vista by >> disabling the Themes Service. The new GUI's are just themes running overtop >> of the old one. The only differences become the Start Menu changes. > > I thought, die classic UI is just a theme for the new GUI. > > Thomas Nope, it's the actual underlying UI and what you get if you disable the Theme service on XP or Vista. The click & drool interface refers to it as a theme but that's misleading. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
