Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
In a message dated 2/9/2007 12:51:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. I just got the moment to look at these. Either the downsampled rendering has destroyed most of the tonalities or our monitors are set too differently. They look oversharpened to me, and the contrast curves look too steep, most of the Zone III-V tones are missing or muddy. This was my impression as well. I wondered if maybe my first viewing had been in a bad lighting situation, so I didn't say anything. Almost Tri-X-like in the sharp harsh contrast -Charles I am glad you guys said this, because I thought maybe it was just me. And I am not a BW gal, so I find them hard to evaluate. But these look way too dark to me. Lack of detail and sort of gritty, maybe appealing in a way, but making it really hard to get a sense of depth and scale and texture. I am just talking about the rendering, not the photos, Mark -- I had the same reaction to the tree trunk. :-) OTOH, you may be going for a certain mood, but that mood I find very depressing. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ I've been in lurk mode for about a month or more, but I must pop out of my hole (in groundhog-like manner) for a moment to tell you how gorgeous These are, and how MF film just can't be beat. There's detail and tonality here that's incredible - I'd love to see the prints!! In fact, I'm guessing I'll get to see originals in early June, on the way to GFM... ;-) Great stuff!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/9/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ I've been in lurk mode for about a month or more, but I must pop out of my hole (in groundhog-like manner) for a moment to tell you how gorgeous These are, and how MF film just can't be beat. There's detail and tonality here that's incredible - I'd love to see the prints!! In fact, I'm guessing I'll get to see originals in early June, on the way to GFM... ;-) Great stuff!! Agreed! I remember taking the negatives out of the tank and saying to Mat, That guy really understands exposure!, or something similar. I don't think web viewing does them any justice. Perhaps some 8x10 or larger fiber based glossies would be in order. For the record, Mark told me he exposed the Plus-X at 125. Kodak's recommended dev time for HC-110 dil B is under four minutes. Dev times that short scare me. I think I ended up doubling the dilution and almost doubling the dev time. Anyway, wonderful photos. Every time someone posts something like this, I start considering getting myself a 645. Here we go again... P.S. - Hi, Frank! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Knarf!! You're alive!! --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ I've been in lurk mode for about a month or more, but I must pop out of my hole (in groundhog-like manner) for a moment to tell you how gorgeous These are, and how MF film just can't be beat. There's detail and tonality here that's incredible - I'd love to see the prints!! In fact, I'm guessing I'll get to see originals in early June, on the way to GFM... ;-) Great stuff!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/9/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf!! You're alive!! What makes you think that? -frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 9/2/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: On 2/9/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf!! You're alive!! What makes you think that? -frank ;-) Like I said, he's a courtin'. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/9/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/9/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ I've been in lurk mode for about a month or more, but I must pop out of my hole (in groundhog-like manner) for a moment to tell you how gorgeous These are, and how MF film just can't be beat. There's detail and tonality here that's incredible - I'd love to see the prints!! In fact, I'm guessing I'll get to see originals in early June, on the way to GFM... ;-) Great stuff!! Agreed! I remember taking the negatives out of the tank and saying to Mat, That guy really understands exposure!, or something similar. I don't think web viewing does them any justice. Perhaps some 8x10 or larger fiber based glossies would be in order. For the record, Mark told me he exposed the Plus-X at 125. Kodak's recommended dev time for HC-110 dil B is under four minutes. Dev times that short scare me. I think I ended up doubling the dilution and almost doubling the dev time. I'v only ever used Tmax developer, so what ever you want to bring, will be an adventure for me. Now that adventure i can handle.:-) Anyway, wonderful photos. Every time someone posts something like this, I start considering getting myself a 645. Here we go again... There are uslually a few 6x7 and 645's floating around that weekend, so..:-) P.S. - Hi, Frank! Pss Hi Frank -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Hmm. I just got the moment to look at these. Either the downsampled rendering has destroyed most of the tonalities or our monitors are set too differently. They look oversharpened to me, and the contrast curves look too steep, most of the Zone III-V tones are missing or muddy. The content is another of those situations where a BIG print is necessary to see the detail and really appreciate the subject matter. Overall the compositions look good. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On Feb 9, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: ... Every time someone posts something like this, I start considering getting myself a 645. Here we go again... Much as I love 645 (and enjoy the heck out of the loaner Pentax 645 kit...), unless you're willing to go the whole way ... buy something better than a flatbed film scanner or do all your printing in a darkroom ... you'll get better results with the K10D. I struggle with this myself. I'd really like to shoot more 645, but is it worth the $1100-1800 cost for a good MF film scanner given the amount of work I'll be able to produce with it? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
You mean my theory is correct? frank theriault wrote: On 2/9/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf!! You're alive!! What makes you think that? -frank ;-) -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/9/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean my theory is correct? I'v said all along, Frank is just a theory.:-) Dave frank theriault wrote: On 2/9/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf!! You're alive!! What makes you think that? -frank ;-) -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:51, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Hmm. I just got the moment to look at these. Either the downsampled rendering has destroyed most of the tonalities or our monitors are set too differently. They look oversharpened to me, and the contrast curves look too steep, most of the Zone III-V tones are missing or muddy. This was my impression as well. I wondered if maybe my first viewing had been in a bad lighting situation, so I didn't say anything. Almost Tri-X-like in the sharp harsh contrast -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Hmm. I just got the moment to look at these. Either the downsampled rendering has destroyed most of the tonalities or our monitors are set too differently. They look oversharpened to me, and the contrast curves look too steep, most of the Zone III-V tones are missing or muddy. Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Reality is merely an illusion, abet a very persistent one. -- Albert Einstein David J Brooks wrote: On 2/9/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean my theory is correct? I'v said all along, Frank is just a theory.:-) Dave frank theriault wrote: On 2/9/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf!! You're alive!! What makes you think that? -frank ;-) -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
P. J. Alling wrote: Reality is merely an illusion, abet a very persistent one. -- Albert Einstein Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. -- Douglas Adams -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Hmm. I just got the moment to look at these. Either the downsampled rendering has destroyed most of the tonalities or our monitors are set too differently. They look oversharpened to me, and the contrast curves look too steep, most of the Zone III-V tones are missing or muddy. Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? The elided part of my original post said: The content is another of those situations where a BIG print is necessary to see the detail and really appreciate the subject matter. Overall the compositions look good. So I guess I would enjoy the play if the stage lights hadn't gone dim... ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Hmm. I just got the moment to look at these. Either the downsampled rendering has destroyed most of the tonalities or our monitors are set too differently. They look oversharpened to me, and the contrast curves look too steep, most of the Zone III-V tones are missing or muddy. Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? The elided part of my original post said: The content is another of those situations where a BIG print is necessary to see the detail and really appreciate the subject matter. Overall the compositions look good. So I guess I would enjoy the play if the stage lights hadn't gone dim... ;-) I think I went dim by forgetting the smiley on my post... You're quite tight about the detail and print-size thing: I shoot MF when I want to capture subjects that make great demands on resolution and fine detail, so they aren't going to come across well on the web. That said, I admit my skills at making BW look good on a computer monitor are quite poor. When I make prints to bring to GFM, they'll be done in a darkroom, not a Lightroom. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On Feb 9, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ... That said, I admit my skills at making BW look good on a computer monitor are quite poor. When I make prints to bring to GFM, they'll be done in a darkroom, not a Lightroom. :) You might want to think about working on those skills... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Long-delayed GFM shots
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: 9. februar 2007 21:32 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Long-delayed GFM shots On 2/9/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean my theory is correct? I'v said all along, Frank is just a theory.:-) Dave He is more a theorem, I'd say. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) frank theriault wrote: On 2/9/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf!! You're alive!! What makes you think that? -frank ;-) -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/07 Wed PM 11:56:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Long-delayed GFM shots I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Location shots for the new version of Hound of the Baskervilles. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu AM 01:13:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Long-delayed GFM shots Verynice. The BW really give it a soul. I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Dave You will probably need a .357 Magnum for that. Ah. Seem to have my threads mixed up. On 2/7/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quite like 1946 and 1942. The former for it's dimensionality. The latter for its interesting subject and picaresque quality. Paul On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
If i have room, i'll bring my tank. If i don't shoot any BW film, i can drink soup from it then.:-) Dave On 2/7/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! Oh Oh. Talk about pressure for this year.:) I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'm pretty sure is still have 1/2 dozen istill in the fridge. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/8/07, Eric Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. The only PCMCIA at newegg is over eighty bucks. Yowser! eekBay seems to be the place to shop. Nice photographs, BTW. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. A vanilla PCMCIA card will still be a pretty bad bottleneck; I'm not sure what their maximum transfer rate is, but it isn't all that great. What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. A vanilla PCMCIA card will still be a pretty bad bottleneck; I'm not sure what their maximum transfer rate is, but it isn't all that great. A good point. I did a little googling, PCMCIA is 16MB/s (16bits @ 8MHz - the old ISA standard) so should be fast enough for FastSCSI. Cardbus is [EMAIL PROTECTED] so easily fast enough. What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( I wouldn't buy a Cardbus-SCSI converter, because that's too much to spend for a few grins at GFM! But I might be interested in a FireWire-SCSI converter becaue I could also use it on my desktop machine and get rid of my SCSI card. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00! I'm gonna get one! OK everyone going to GFM: You'll be able to shoot medium format BW for the digital photo contest! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( I wouldn't buy a Cardbus-SCSI converter, because that's too much to spend for a few grins at GFM! But I might be interested in a FireWire-SCSI converter becaue I could also use it on my desktop machine and get rid of my SCSI card. Who wants what as far as developer goes? I brought HC-110 last year. If you're shooting slower film I could grab some Ilfosol. D-76, Rodinal? Anyone got a portable darkroom tent? We could set up an enlarger and make prints! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00! I'm gonna get one! OK everyone going to GFM: You'll be able to shoot medium format BW for the digital photo contest! Make myself look like an idiot When I first looked at your photos yesterday I thought Why did he crop all of them? I just realized a few minutes ago that I was shooting 6x6, not you. \Make myself look like an idiot I should have kept your damn film and entered myself this year. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00! I'm gonna get one! OK everyone going to GFM: You'll be able to shoot medium format BW for the digital photo contest! Make myself look like an idiot When I first looked at your photos yesterday I thought Why did he crop all of them? I just realized a few minutes ago that I was shooting 6x6, not you. \Make myself look like an idiot I should have kept your damn film and entered myself this year. Great, now Cesar will need to keep a spread sheet during the weekend. Dave -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I quite like 1946 and 1942. The former for it's dimensionality. The latter for its interesting subject and picaresque quality. Paul On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Verynice. The BW really give it a soul. I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Dave On 2/7/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quite like 1946 and 1942. The former for it's dimensionality. The latter for its interesting subject and picaresque quality. Paul On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ I quite like 1946 and 1942. The former for it's dimensionality. The latter for its interesting subject and picaresque quality. Ah, you've never been there, have you? It's an amazing place with more photo opportunities than you'll ever use up in a lifetime. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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--- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've been spending too much time with small children. +BEER+ is for parties. Soup is for lunch. Sheesh. Rick I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
