RE: Losing My Heads

2001-02-15 Thread Peter Smith

>Whenever I go take pictures of the Hong Kong city lights, I find
>myself sharing the Peak viewing gallery with lots of tourists.  The
>take a picture of a 600m wide harbour with the flash on their P&S and
>then look at *me* like I'm an idiot for not having a flash.
>
>Sheesh!
>
>dave

They must be the people I saw on TV at the opening ceremony of the
Olympics - and every other night time stadium event.

Peter (_8(|)


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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-14 Thread Alan Chan

>Whenever I go take pictures of the Hong Kong city lights, I find
>myself sharing the Peak viewing gallery with lots of tourists.  The
>take a picture of a 600m wide harbour with the flash on their P&S and
>then look at *me* like I'm an idiot for not having a flash.
>
>Sheesh!
>
>dave

Maybe you should use a flash then, but firing at them instead.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-14 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 13 Feb
2001 09:35:06 -0600
Read it? y
>The one I always like is when I vist family in another city/state and leave
>around 9pm with my camera and a tripod to go take picture at night.  No one
>can understand how I am going to take pictures in the dark!

Whenever I go take pictures of the Hong Kong city lights, I find
myself sharing the Peak viewing gallery with lots of tourists.  The
take a picture of a 600m wide harbour with the flash on their P&S and
then look at *me* like I'm an idiot for not having a flash.

Sheesh!

dave
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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-13 Thread Tiger Moses

The one I always like is when I vist family in another city/state and leave
around 9pm with my camera and a tripod to go take picture at night.  No one
can understand how I am going to take pictures in the dark!


At 09:51 AM 2/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>"D. Glenn Arthur Jr." wrote:
>
>> What I get _often_ is, "Hey, your flash didn't go off!" when I
>> don't even have a flash _attached_!
>
>Heh, a dude at the arena the other night ran over from the other side of
>the rink to tell me exactly that.  I told him that I wasn't using one,
>instead I was using a fast lens and fast film.  He shook his head like I
>was a fool to even try such a thing.
>
>After the game he was up in the bar with us, and I showed him some scans
>from previous games on mister iBook, and he was boggled (though some of
>that could've been the liquor).
>

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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-12 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.

Bob Walkden wrote:
> Within the last few months a complete stranger came up to me while I
> was photographing into back light and told me it wouldn't work, I
> should keep the sun behind me. And earlier last year while I was
> photographing somebody inside a public building with my M3 another
> stranger wandered up and told me it wouldn't come out, I should use a
> flash.

What I get _often_ is, "Hey, your flash didn't go off!" when I 
don't even have a flash _attached_!

-- Glenn

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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-12 Thread Dan Scott

Me. You end up with upper portion of the frame broken in two, limiting the
travel of the viewers eyes at least momentarily, and the visual
interruption forces you to deal with "the face".

Dan Scott
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>How many of you head-and-shoulders shooters crop this way?   I
>was shooting the street yesterday, and decided to experiment
>with that cropping technique in aa few instances.  Damned if the
>viewfinder image didn't seem stronger when getting in close.  I
>guess it allows for greater emphasis on facial features.  IAC,
>I'm going to continue exploring that technique.
>--
>Shel Belinkoff
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>My best work is often almost unconscious
>and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it."
> -Sam Abel; "Stay This Moment"
>
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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-12 Thread SudaMafud

In a message dated 2/12/01 12:28:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< How many of you head-and-shoulders shooters crop this way? >>

For myself? Often. For clients? Never. You must overcome your years of 
training and go with your insticts when framing in an "unorthodox" manner. 
I've found myself, by getting up clos and personal, cuting off an ear or two. 
I'm going to have to try chopping off the top of a head just to see what 
you're talking about...but I'll do it in the lab 

Suda Mafud, 
A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community
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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-12 Thread Doug Brewer

Shel,

Two of the shots featured in the "portraits" section of 
my site (URL below) show some of the cropping you 
mention. 

Doug



Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Over the past few  months, when watching movies, I 
noticed that
> a lot of shots, especially tight head shots and
> head-and-shoulders shots, were made in such a way that 
a portion
> of the top of the subjects' heads were cut off.  The 
more I
> looked at those shots, the more it seemed that 
cropping in that
> manner lent something very positive to the image.
>
> A couple of days ago I received a copy of Larry 
Bartlett's book
> on B&W printing, and observed that many of the 
portraits
> exhibited the same cropping. Some were cropped in the 
camera,
> and others were cropped during printing, allowing 
before and
> after comparisons.  In all cases, the shots cropped 
with a
> portion of the top of the head missing appeared to be 
stronger
> images.
>
> How many of you head-and-shoulders shooters crop this 
way?   I
> was shooting the street yesterday, and decided to 
experiment
> with that cropping technique in aa few instances.  
Damned if the
> viewfinder image didn't seem stronger when getting in 
close.  I
> guess it allows for greater emphasis on facial 
features.  IAC,
> I'm going to continue exploring that technique.
> --
> Shel Belinkoff
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My best work is often almost unconscious
> and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it."
>  -Sam Abel; "Stay This Moment"
>


Ashwood Lake Photography
http://www.alphoto.com
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Re: Losing My Heads

2001-02-12 Thread Aaron Reynolds

I find cropping into people can be great fun. :)

I never noticed that I did it until someone pointed it out to me,
actually.  I just like to get nice and close to people.

For a shot that (I think) is spectacular, in part because of the crop,
check out the cover for Lyle Lovett's album The Road To Ensenada.  Now
THAT is a crop.  The images inside are great, too.  The album before it,
I Love Everybody, also has some neat stuff going on inside of it.  I
forget the photographer's name, sadly.

-Aaron
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