Re: Low light prime
Well i wondered that. I mentioned Pentax in the header and twice in the body of the email. On Jan 10, 2008 1:14 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tamron states that this lens is only available in Canon, Nikon and > Sony mounts. Vistek is incorrect. > > -Adam > > > On 1/10/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Received an email from Vistek here in Toronto, and they are telling me > > that the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is available and special order, go figure. > > > > Two to three week delivery. > > > > Some places say no pentax mount, some are. > > > > I'm confused, but still keeping the 28-75 order. > > > > Dave > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Tamron states that this lens is only available in Canon, Nikon and Sony mounts. Vistek is incorrect. -Adam On 1/10/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Received an email from Vistek here in Toronto, and they are telling me > that the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is available and special order, go figure. > > Two to three week delivery. > > Some places say no pentax mount, some are. > > I'm confused, but still keeping the 28-75 order. > > Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Received an email from Vistek here in Toronto, and they are telling me that the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is available and special order, go figure. Two to three week delivery. Some places say no pentax mount, some are. I'm confused, but still keeping the 28-75 order. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Thanks Adam. Makes me feel better buying sight unseen. I';m going through the guy i usually deal with at Henrys in Newmarket, so it should be a pleasent dealing. He usually gives me a bit of a price break. Dave On Jan 8, 2008 3:27 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a superb lens. I regret selling mine when I sold the *istD. > > -Adam > > > On 1/8/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems that will be the case.:-( > > > > I HAVE however found a local store with one Tamron SP AF 28-70 F2.8 XR > > DI LD in stock at the ware house. > > > > Its been ordered and should have it hopefully by the weekend. > > > > So much for not buying new gear. I only made it 8 days.LOL > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 2:18 PM, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Back when I was looking for a constant f/2.8 in that range, I emailed > > > Tamron asking them if they would ever make one for Pentax, and they > > > told me no. > > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2008 5:46 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > For some reason, for about 12 hours, it was available, or at least > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
That's a superb lens. I regret selling mine when I sold the *istD. -Adam On 1/8/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that will be the case.:-( > > I HAVE however found a local store with one Tamron SP AF 28-70 F2.8 XR > DI LD in stock at the ware house. > > Its been ordered and should have it hopefully by the weekend. > > So much for not buying new gear. I only made it 8 days.LOL > > Dave > > On Jan 8, 2008 2:18 PM, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Back when I was looking for a constant f/2.8 in that range, I emailed > > Tamron asking them if they would ever make one for Pentax, and they > > told me no. > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2008 5:46 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For some reason, for about 12 hours, it was available, or at least > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
It seems that will be the case.:-( I HAVE however found a local store with one Tamron SP AF 28-70 F2.8 XR DI LD in stock at the ware house. Its been ordered and should have it hopefully by the weekend. So much for not buying new gear. I only made it 8 days.LOL Dave On Jan 8, 2008 2:18 PM, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Back when I was looking for a constant f/2.8 in that range, I emailed > Tamron asking them if they would ever make one for Pentax, and they > told me no. > > > On Jan 7, 2008 5:46 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For some reason, for about 12 hours, it was available, or at least > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Back when I was looking for a constant f/2.8 in that range, I emailed Tamron asking them if they would ever make one for Pentax, and they told me no. On Jan 7, 2008 5:46 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some reason, for about 12 hours, it was available, or at least -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 6, 2008 5:49 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Tamron 17-50 isn't available in K mount. For some reason, for about 12 hours, it was available, or at least listed, on the Vistek site. I sent them an email, and when i checked the site again Sunday afternoon, it was not there. Henrys site shows no limiteds available in stock, just as special order, I keep forgetting about Downtown and Aden. I don't need anything till near the end of February, so i can sit on this for about 4-5 weeks and keep an eye out. The Sigma 18-50 2.8 looks decent enough, should it come to that. I was looking at the Tamron 28-75, but also unavailable. I don't want to spend $1000 on a 16-50 that might only see use 1-3 times a year. Maybe i'll watch eekbay for a while, although i'd rather not. Dave Dave > > Henry's Downtown should have the Limiteds, apart from the 31. If not, > Downtown Camera or Aden should have them. Stock is a little low after > the boxing week sales though, but I know Downtown at least is ordering > as much Pentax kit as they can get their mitts on, Stan's big beef > with Pentax is he can't get enough bodies to sell. > > -Adam > > > On 1/6/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, i did some snooping on the big three's websites today. Very > > disappointing. Seems most of the lenses i would like, are special > > order now. The one 31 and one 43 ltd at Henrys are gone. I noticed > > several Sigma and Tamron lenses in the 17-50 and 28-75 F2.8 range are > > all special order. Same for the Sigma 31, 28,24 etc. > > Vistek's FA 50 1.4's are special order, and just about all of Camera > > Canada Pentax lenses are special order. > > > > I did find at Vistek, listed as new, a Tamron af 17-50 F2.8 Di II LD > > IF for $499. No product info but i looked at the listing for the Sony > > mount. > > It sounds like a good lens and if it performs like my Tamron 90 > > Macro(Nikon) i'd be happy. I would prefer to get a Pentax lens in this > > range, but if i can a good quality Tamron for 1/2 the price, WTF.:-) > > > > Any comments on these Tamrons.?? > > > > I quess all of the grumbling about lack of availability is true.:-) > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 12:42 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Vistek has the FA 50/1.4 for $199 right now. Hanry's should match that > > > price (they're listing at $220 last I checked). > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > On 1/3/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey troops. > > > > > > > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > > > > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > > > > > > > Some really good musicians up here. > > > > > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > > > > > My bad there. > > > > > > > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > > > > stuff was usable. > > > > > > > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > > > > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > > > > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > > > > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > > > > lot of yea's. > > > > > > > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > > > > $1000 just now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Equine Photography > > > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > > > Ontario Canada > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > > follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > M. Adam Maas > > > http://www.mawz.ca > > > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the
Re: Low light prime
> > From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/01/06 Sun PM 10:49:36 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Low light prime > > The Tamron 17-50 isn't available in K mount. > > Henry's Downtown should have the Limiteds, apart from the 31. If not, > Downtown Camera or Aden should have them. Stock is a little low after > the boxing week sales though, but I know Downtown at least is ordering > as much Pentax kit as they can get their mitts on, Stan's big beef > with Pentax is he can't get enough bodies to sell. The organisation does seem to be doing very well. I went to the local outlet of a national chain yesterday and, apart from there being _no_ film on sale at all, the other notable thing was the empty spaces on shelves with "Pentax (whatever)" on the label underneath. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Not sure I can quantify the difference...the images out of the 17-50 just don't seem to "pop" the way the ones from the 28-75 did, for me at least. Keep in mind that I used them on 2 different bodies: the 28-75 on the *istD and the17-50 on the D200. I'm considering selling the 17-50 and maybe at some point getting the Nikon 17-55 if I feel the need. I agree, at 1/3 the cost of the Nikon, the Tam is a great value, which is why I got it instead, but I just don't like it as much. Amita On Jan 6, 2008 11:22 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > INteresting, I would have said the 17-50 is as good as the 28-75, > certainly the two examples I've had the chance to try were. (It also > does well in comparison to the Nikon 17-55, not quite the equal, but > 1/3 the cost). > > -Adam > > > On 1/6/08, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nor is the Tamron as good as its 28-75mm brother. I had the Sigma > > 18-50mm f/2.8 in K mount, and it worked just fine, although I didn't > > love it. > > > > On Jan 6, 2008 6:49 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Tamron 17-50 isn't available in K mount. > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
INteresting, I would have said the 17-50 is as good as the 28-75, certainly the two examples I've had the chance to try were. (It also does well in comparison to the Nikon 17-55, not quite the equal, but 1/3 the cost). -Adam On 1/6/08, Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nor is the Tamron as good as its 28-75mm brother. I had the Sigma > 18-50mm f/2.8 in K mount, and it worked just fine, although I didn't > love it. > > On Jan 6, 2008 6:49 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Tamron 17-50 isn't available in K mount. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Nor is the Tamron as good as its 28-75mm brother. I had the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 in K mount, and it worked just fine, although I didn't love it. On Jan 6, 2008 6:49 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Tamron 17-50 isn't available in K mount. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
The Tamron 17-50 isn't available in K mount. Henry's Downtown should have the Limiteds, apart from the 31. If not, Downtown Camera or Aden should have them. Stock is a little low after the boxing week sales though, but I know Downtown at least is ordering as much Pentax kit as they can get their mitts on, Stan's big beef with Pentax is he can't get enough bodies to sell. -Adam On 1/6/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, i did some snooping on the big three's websites today. Very > disappointing. Seems most of the lenses i would like, are special > order now. The one 31 and one 43 ltd at Henrys are gone. I noticed > several Sigma and Tamron lenses in the 17-50 and 28-75 F2.8 range are > all special order. Same for the Sigma 31, 28,24 etc. > Vistek's FA 50 1.4's are special order, and just about all of Camera > Canada Pentax lenses are special order. > > I did find at Vistek, listed as new, a Tamron af 17-50 F2.8 Di II LD > IF for $499. No product info but i looked at the listing for the Sony > mount. > It sounds like a good lens and if it performs like my Tamron 90 > Macro(Nikon) i'd be happy. I would prefer to get a Pentax lens in this > range, but if i can a good quality Tamron for 1/2 the price, WTF.:-) > > Any comments on these Tamrons.?? > > I quess all of the grumbling about lack of availability is true.:-) > > Dave > > On Jan 3, 2008 12:42 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vistek has the FA 50/1.4 for $199 right now. Hanry's should match that > > price (they're listing at $220 last I checked). > > > > -Adam > > > > > > On 1/3/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey troops. > > > > > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > > > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > > > > > Some really good musicians up here. > > > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > > > My bad there. > > > > > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > > > stuff was usable. > > > > > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > > > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > > > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > > > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > > > lot of yea's. > > > > > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > > > $1000 just now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > -- > > > Equine Photography > > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > > Ontario Canada > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > -- > > M. Adam Maas > > http://www.mawz.ca > > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Well, i did some snooping on the big three's websites today. Very disappointing. Seems most of the lenses i would like, are special order now. The one 31 and one 43 ltd at Henrys are gone. I noticed several Sigma and Tamron lenses in the 17-50 and 28-75 F2.8 range are all special order. Same for the Sigma 31, 28,24 etc. Vistek's FA 50 1.4's are special order, and just about all of Camera Canada Pentax lenses are special order. I did find at Vistek, listed as new, a Tamron af 17-50 F2.8 Di II LD IF for $499. No product info but i looked at the listing for the Sony mount. It sounds like a good lens and if it performs like my Tamron 90 Macro(Nikon) i'd be happy. I would prefer to get a Pentax lens in this range, but if i can a good quality Tamron for 1/2 the price, WTF.:-) Any comments on these Tamrons.?? I quess all of the grumbling about lack of availability is true.:-) Dave On Jan 3, 2008 12:42 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vistek has the FA 50/1.4 for $199 right now. Hanry's should match that > price (they're listing at $220 last I checked). > > -Adam > > > On 1/3/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey troops. > > > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > > > Some really good musicians up here. > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > My bad there. > > > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > > stuff was usable. > > > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > > lot of yea's. > > > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > > $1000 just now. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Cotty wrote on Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:09:04 -0800 > On 05/01/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >our own JCO > > That does have a certain ring to it. In the PDML pub, I imagine > they are > kept in the corner, chained to a table, an affectionate nod in their > direction every once in a while. A cloth is provided to wipe away > foam. > A male nurse with medication (read tranquilising dart gun) on stand-by > in case the chains don't hold. LOL! What a mental image this evokes! I'd love to be there just to watch... Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
I don't believe I've ever seen an FA* lens in person. Most are relatively long lenses or big zooms, which I don't find myself using all that frequently. Godfrey On Jan 5, 2008, at 9:20 AM, David Savage wrote: > Have you compared either of the DA* lenses to their FA* predecessors? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 05/01/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed: >our own JCO That does have a certain ring to it. In the PDML pub, I imagine they are kept in the corner, chained to a table, an affectionate nod in their direction every once in a while. A cloth is provided to wipe away foam. A male nurse with medication (read tranquilising dart gun) on stand-by in case the chains don't hold. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Have you compared either of the DA* lenses to their FA* predecessors? On 1/5/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see people complaining about the 16-50/2.8 on DPReview a lot too. > But people there seem to complain about every insignificant thing all > the time. If something does not perform precisely as they want or > erroneously presumed it ought, then it's obviously faulty and you > have to whine about it. > > I have used just the one DA*16-50/2.8 lens that is being provided to > me on loan. It seems to be a superb performer although I admit that I > continue to prefer using the DA14, DA21 and FA43 in this focal length > range instead. Fast wide-to-portrait-tele zooms are big and clumsy to > me. > > I find the 21 and 43 to be my favorite people lenses, most of the > time, and both work well in low light ... I'm not afraid to use ISO > 800 or 1600 when needed. If I were shooting more event/photojourno > type stuff, yes: the DA*16-50 would be on the camera more of the > time. Even though I don't like the bulk of it. > > Most of my photos in these circumstances seem to float around a 35 to > 40 mm focal length, or down in the 20-28 mm range, when using a zoom > depending upon the specific circumstances of the event. > > Godfrey > > > > David J Brooks wrote: > >> Good points. I had considered the 1.5 crop, but loosely.:-) > >> > >> I thought about the 16-50 f2.8, but i get conflicting stories. Here > >> most seem to like the lens. Over at Pentax forums, a lot seem to have > >> problems with it. > >> > >>> To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. > >>> Group shots in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an > >>> FOV comparable to about a 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait > >>> length. I think the 35/2 will serve you better. Before I'd spend > >>> the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a bit more and get the > >>> 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end wedding > >>> photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for > >>> your purposes here. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> I'm so happy he hasn't discovered the PDML yet. Are you sure ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Charles Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Low light prime > On Jan 4, 2008, at 15:47, Derby Chang wrote: >> RiceHigh's blog is hilarious. Complains about anything and everything >> Pentax, but I don't recall seeing any of his actual photos, other than >> test targets. He is King Measurbater. >> >> http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/index.html >> > > I'm so happy he hasn't discovered the PDML yet. So very happy. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 5, 2008 5:27 AM, Peter Fairweather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not one to be optimistic myself, but in the UK, the availability and > price of Pentax gear has improved dramatically over the last two or > three years. > > Shame if it is to be closed down at the end of the financial year as he > claims. > > At least our own JCO had one valid point! That it gets hot out in summer.:-) Looks like the show is a go for Feb 23 this year. Now, to decide. An FA 50 1.4, the 41 Ltd or the 16-50 F2.8. The latter seems the better choice for me at this time, as i really don't want to be spending a lot of time changing lenses, and getting in their faces and obstructing the view for the paying customers. I have the 77 which will let me get in a bit closer and not get in the way. They usually do three songs, so i can do 1 with the 77 for tight shots and two with a zoom for all round stuff. Humm that could work.;-) I want to use the K10D for this, as it has the SR and this will be a great test for higher ISO's and hand held stuff. Sooo, right now its the 16-50, so far. I will change my mind many times this weekend.;-) I'll assume that those that have this, are happy with it. Dave > > Peter > > > On 05/01/2008, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 04/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >I think it's a sad waste of time. > > > > I have to agree. > > > > -- > > > > > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > > > ___/\__ > > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > > _ > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not one to be optimistic myself, but in the UK, the availability and price of Pentax gear has improved dramatically over the last two or three years. Shame if it is to be closed down at the end of the financial year as he claims. At least our own JCO had one valid point! Peter On 05/01/2008, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I think it's a sad waste of time. > > I have to agree. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 04/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think it's a sad waste of time. I have to agree. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 4, 2008, at 15:47, Derby Chang wrote: > RiceHigh's blog is hilarious. ... You could call it that. I think it's a sad waste of time. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 4, 2008, at 15:47, Derby Chang wrote: > RiceHigh's blog is hilarious. Complains about anything and everything > Pentax, but I don't recall seeing any of his actual photos, other than > test targets. He is King Measurbater. > > http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/index.html > I'm so happy he hasn't discovered the PDML yet. So very happy. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling wrote: > Pentax forums is the home of RiceHigh(?). I expect anyplace he'd be > happy would have problems with anything with Pentax emblazoned on it. > (My aren't I painting with a broad brush). > > RiceHigh's blog is hilarious. Complains about anything and everything Pentax, but I don't recall seeing any of his actual photos, other than test targets. He is King Measurbater. http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/index.html D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> Thats one big banana Mark ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Low light prime > On Jan 3, 2008 6:50 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 03/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >You can never have too many lenses. >> >> If that's not a T-shirt, I'm a banana. > > Thats one big banana > > Dave >> >> -- >> >> >> Cheers, >> Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I see people complaining about the 16-50/2.8 on DPReview a lot too. But people there seem to complain about every insignificant thing all the time. If something does not perform precisely as they want or erroneously presumed it ought, then it's obviously faulty and you have to whine about it. I have used just the one DA*16-50/2.8 lens that is being provided to me on loan. It seems to be a superb performer although I admit that I continue to prefer using the DA14, DA21 and FA43 in this focal length range instead. Fast wide-to-portrait-tele zooms are big and clumsy to me. I find the 21 and 43 to be my favorite people lenses, most of the time, and both work well in low light ... I'm not afraid to use ISO 800 or 1600 when needed. If I were shooting more event/photojourno type stuff, yes: the DA*16-50 would be on the camera more of the time. Even though I don't like the bulk of it. Most of my photos in these circumstances seem to float around a 35 to 40 mm focal length, or down in the 20-28 mm range, when using a zoom depending upon the specific circumstances of the event. Godfrey > David J Brooks wrote: >> Good points. I had considered the 1.5 crop, but loosely.:-) >> >> I thought about the 16-50 f2.8, but i get conflicting stories. Here >> most seem to like the lens. Over at Pentax forums, a lot seem to have >> problems with it. >> >>> To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. >>> Group shots in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an >>> FOV comparable to about a 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait >>> length. I think the 35/2 will serve you better. Before I'd spend >>> the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a bit more and get the >>> 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end wedding >>> photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for >>> your purposes here. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That is correct. You are correct. :-) Dave On Jan 4, 2008 1:48 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pentax forums is the home of RiceHigh(?). I expect anyplace he'd be > happy would have problems with anything with Pentax emblazoned on it. > (My aren't I painting with a broad brush). > > > David J Brooks wrote: > > Good points. I had considered the 1.5 crop, but loosely.:-) > > > > I thought about the 16-50 f2.8, but i get conflicting stories. Here > > most seem to like the lens. Over at Pentax forums, a lot seem to have > > problems with it. > > > > I guess a trip to Newmarket to try one is best. > > > > Now i just have to find out when Liz works late.:-0 > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 4, 2008 9:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. Group > >> shots in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an FOV comparable to > >> about a 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait length. I think the 35/2 will > >> serve you better. Before I'd spend the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up > >> a bit more and get the 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end > >> wedding photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for > >> your purposes here. > >> Paul > >> -- Original message -- > >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >>> I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that > >>> of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. > >>> > >>> Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited > >>> lens.:-0 > >>> > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > of thing. > > Godfrey > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > silver. > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow > > >>> the directions. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Equine Photography > >>> www.caughtinmotion.com > >>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > >>> Ontario Canada > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >>> follow > >>> the directions. > >>> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. > A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. > When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world > -- Anonymous > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pentax forums is the home of RiceHigh(?). I expect anyplace he'd be happy would have problems with anything with Pentax emblazoned on it. (My aren't I painting with a broad brush). David J Brooks wrote: > Good points. I had considered the 1.5 crop, but loosely.:-) > > I thought about the 16-50 f2.8, but i get conflicting stories. Here > most seem to like the lens. Over at Pentax forums, a lot seem to have > problems with it. > > I guess a trip to Newmarket to try one is best. > > Now i just have to find out when Liz works late.:-0 > > Dave > > On Jan 4, 2008 9:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. Group >> shots in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an FOV comparable to >> about a 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait length. I think the 35/2 will >> serve you better. Before I'd spend the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a >> bit more and get the 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end >> wedding photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for >> your purposes here. >> Paul >> -- Original message -- >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>> I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that >>> of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. >>> >>> Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited >>> lens.:-0 >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind of thing. Godfrey On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > silver. > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >>> the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Equine Photography >>> www.caughtinmotion.com >>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >>> Ontario Canada >>> >>> -- >>> >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow >>> the directions. >>> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > > -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wheee. The 16-50 is almost the same price up here, as the 50-135. I thought it might be less than the $950 on the web site. They have a fair amount of stock. I just might wait and see if this event gets the go ahead. If not, i'll keep waiting for the 60-250 Dave On Jan 4, 2008 9:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. Group shots > in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an FOV comparable to about a > 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait length. I think the 35/2 will serve you > better. Before I'd spend the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a bit more > and get the 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end wedding > photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for your > purposes here. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that > > of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. > > > > Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited > > lens.:-0 > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > > > of thing. > > > > > > Godfrey > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > > > silver. > > > > > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow > > the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 4, 2008 9:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. Group shots > in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an FOV comparable to about a > 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait length. I think the 35/2 will serve you > better. Before I'd spend the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a bit more > and get the 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end wedding > photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for your > purposes >here. Also forgot to add. At the church, i sit up front, so i'm usually from 8-20 feet away. Depends on if its a single performer or multy.I looked at my May Exif and i shot most at 1/60 or 1/30 at f 1.8 to f 2.8, so that might fit in there. Dave > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that > > of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. > > > > Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited > > lens.:-0 > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > > > of thing. > > > > > > Godfrey > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > > > silver. > > > > > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow > > the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good points. I had considered the 1.5 crop, but loosely.:-) I thought about the 16-50 f2.8, but i get conflicting stories. Here most seem to like the lens. Over at Pentax forums, a lot seem to have problems with it. I guess a trip to Newmarket to try one is best. Now i just have to find out when Liz works late.:-0 Dave On Jan 4, 2008 9:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. Group shots > in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an FOV comparable to about a > 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait length. I think the 35/2 will serve you > better. Before I'd spend the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a bit more > and get the 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end wedding > photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for your > purposes here. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that > > of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. > > > > Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited > > lens.:-0 > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > > > of thing. > > > > > > Godfrey > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > > > silver. > > > > > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow > > the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
To my mind, the 43mm is a bit tight for social event photography. Group shots in limited space will be tough. Remember that's an FOV comparable to about a 65mm lens in 35mm, nearly portrait length. I think the 35/2 will serve you better. Before I'd spend the money on a 43 limited, I'd ante up a bit more and get the 16-50/2.8. That's the type of zoom most high-end wedding photographers use for working a reception. It would be ideal for your purposes here. Paul -- Original message -- From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that > of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. > > Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited > lens.:-0 > > Dave > > On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > > of thing. > > > > Godfrey > > > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > > silver. > > > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
I know the vurtues of the limited's, and the price is about twice that of aN FA 50 1.4, but does 7mm in FL really make a big difference. Just trying to save money, but at the same time justify another Limited lens.:-0 Dave On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > of thing. > > Godfrey > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > silver. > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
s. > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > $1000 just now. I wouldn't count on any zoom to work well in low light. > > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/01/04 Fri AM 11:22:31 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Low light prime > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:50 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 03/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >You can never have too many lenses. > > > > If that's not a T-shirt, I'm a banana. > > Thats one big banana Just happy to see you. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 3, 2008 6:50 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >You can never have too many lenses. > > If that's not a T-shirt, I'm a banana. Thats one big banana Dave > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Beat me to it, damn... Charles Robinson wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008, at 17:50, Cotty wrote: > > >> On 03/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >>> You can never have too many lenses. >>> >> If that's not a T-shirt, I'm a banana. >> >> > > (I've never said this before) > > Mark! > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 3, 2008, at 17:50, Cotty wrote: > On 03/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> You can never have too many lenses. > > If that's not a T-shirt, I'm a banana. > (I've never said this before) Mark! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On 03/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >You can never have too many lenses. If that's not a T-shirt, I'm a banana. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Low light prime > > >> Somehwere around the house I'm pretty sure I still have an FA50/1.7. > > You have too many lenses. You can never have too many lenses. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On 03/01/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5151329114707267538 > >Just grabed a shot that shows more or less the lighting. > >I focused manually on the guitar, but as you can see, the stuff in the >back ground is in perfect focus, using my eye not the focus >confirmation info.. Look at the green guitar. Daaah, convert it to mono, bump up the contrast to hellish and sharpen the out of it - they'll call it art! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
I really loved my 50 1.4, so I vote for that one. (The Nikkor 50 1.4 is also very nice if you go that route, but not as good as the Pentax). Amita On Jan 3, 2008 2:35 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. Looks like i can get a 50 1.4 at Henrys. They would just have > to order it in for me, as the store i deal with has none and most of > them are in the extreme West end of the city or east end of the > province.:-) > > Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 3, 2008 4:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind > of thing. I'm thinking that now myself. The local price is good. I can justify that purchase, the 31 is almost $1000 here, thats a bit much right now. Dave > > Godfrey > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > > silver. > > > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Somehwere around the house I'm pretty sure I still have an FA50/1.7. You have too many lenses. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
I sold my 35 and 50 when I got the 43. It's wonderful for this kind of thing. Godfrey On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, > silver. > > $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i > buy from my guy in Newmarket. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 3, 2008 2:54 PM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008, at 13:13, David J Brooks wrote: > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/ > > photo#5151329114707267538 > > > > Just grabed a shot that shows more or less the lighting. > > > > I focused manually on the guitar, but as you can see, the stuff in the > > back ground is in perfect focus, using my eye not the focus > > confirmation info.. Look at the green guitar. > > > > Yow! That's pretty far off. There's only so much that having this > wrong can do, but are you sure you have your diopter correction set > correctly in your viewfinder? Yes, pretty sure. I check it quite often. I'm pretty anal about that.:-) Dave > > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
You might want to check out a 1,2x eyemushling. I have one, and it improves my MF by a larger factor than 1,2. I could not live without one :-) Tim Typo - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: Low light prime > http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5151329114707267538 > > Just grabed a shot that shows more or less the lighting. > > I focused manually on the guitar, but as you can see, the stuff in the > back ground is in perfect focus, using my eye not the focus > confirmation info.. Look at the green guitar. > > I use a Nikon 18-70 inside for my equine shots(flash ) and the > lighting is almost non existent, but get a decent success rate. I > don't know why all of these were off. At first i thought it was just > low shutter speeds and motion blur, but then i noticed all the back > grounds we;re OOF. II shot at f 1.7/2 most of the time so i should > have shallow DOF. > > Dave > > On Jan 3, 2008 1:34 PM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: >> > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to >> > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered >> > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some >> > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was >> > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. >> > >> >> Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does >> not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I >> wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any >> help. >> >> -Charles >> >> -- >> Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Minneapolis, MN >> http://charles.robinsontwins.org >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: > 02.01.2008 11:29 > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 3, 2008, at 13:13, David J Brooks wrote: > http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/ > photo#5151329114707267538 > > Just grabed a shot that shows more or less the lighting. > > I focused manually on the guitar, but as you can see, the stuff in the > back ground is in perfect focus, using my eye not the focus > confirmation info.. Look at the green guitar. > Yow! That's pretty far off. There's only so much that having this wrong can do, but are you sure you have your diopter correction set correctly in your viewfinder? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Those ar AF versions Paul Dave On Jan 3, 2008 2:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On my K10D, both the 50/1.4 and the 35/2 focus accurately in very low light. > On the *istD, they have problems. > Paul > > -- Original message -- > From: Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > > > > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does > > not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I > > wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any > > help. > > > > -Charles > > > > -- > > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Minneapolis, MN > > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Thanks. Looks like i can get a 50 1.4 at Henrys. They would just have to order it in for me, as the store i deal with has none and most of them are in the extreme West end of the city or east end of the province.:-) Dave On Jan 3, 2008 2:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, both FA versions. > Paul > > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Those ar AF versions Paul > > > > Dave > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 2:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On my K10D, both the 50/1.4 and the 35/2 focus accurately in very low > > > light. > > On the *istD, they have problems. > > > Paul > > > > > > -- Original message -- > > > From: Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > > > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > > > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > > > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > > > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does > > > > not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I > > > > wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any > > > > help. > > > > > > > > -Charles > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Minneapolis, MN > > > > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > > > the directions. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > > follow > > the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5151329114707267538 Just grabed a shot that shows more or less the lighting. I focused manually on the guitar, but as you can see, the stuff in the back ground is in perfect focus, using my eye not the focus confirmation info.. Look at the green guitar. I use a Nikon 18-70 inside for my equine shots(flash ) and the lighting is almost non existent, but get a decent success rate. I don't know why all of these were off. At first i thought it was just low shutter speeds and motion blur, but then i noticed all the back grounds we;re OOF. II shot at f 1.7/2 most of the time so i should have shallow DOF. Dave On Jan 3, 2008 1:34 PM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does > not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I > wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any > help. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Yes, both FA versions. Paul -- Original message -- From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Those ar AF versions Paul > > Dave > > On Jan 3, 2008 2:25 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On my K10D, both the 50/1.4 and the 35/2 focus accurately in very low > > light. > On the *istD, they have problems. > > Paul > > > > -- Original message -- > > From: Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > > > > > > > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does > > > not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I > > > wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any > > > help. > > > > > > -Charles > > > > > > -- > > > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Minneapolis, MN > > > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow > > > the directions. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > the directions. > > > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On my K10D, both the 50/1.4 and the 35/2 focus accurately in very low light. On the *istD, they have problems. Paul -- Original message -- From: Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does > not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I > wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any > help. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
For the price of a 50 and 35, i think i can get the 43 Ltd 1.9, silver. $470 at Henrys, they have some stock, and i usually get 10% off if i buy from my guy in Newmarket. Dave On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like you need a 31mm Ltd. > > (My first subtle attempt at enablement for '08) > > I highly recommend the FA 50mm f1.4. Very good bang for your buck. > > Cheers, > > Dave > > On Jan 4, 2008 2:03 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey troops. > > > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > > > Some really good musicians up here. > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > My bad there. > > > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > > stuff was usable. > > > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > > lot of yea's. > > > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > > $1000 just now. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
I;ll dig out one of the ones from May of this year and post for example. Lighting is not horrible persay. Dave On Jan 3, 2008 1:34 PM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does > not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I > wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any > help. > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:03, David J Brooks wrote: > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > Even when I use the AUTO focus on my FA50 f1.7, I find that it does not focus accurately at all in dim tungsten lighting. Bleah. So I wouldn't be too sure that the confirmation light/beeps would be any help. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like you need a 31mm Ltd. Need, yes. But its a bit much for me at this time, i fear.:-0 Dave > > (My first subtle attempt at enablement for '08) > > I highly recommend the FA 50mm f1.4. Very good bang for your buck. > > Cheers, > > Dave > > On Jan 4, 2008 2:03 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey troops. > > > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > > > Some really good musicians up here. > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > My bad there. > > > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > > stuff was usable. > > > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > > lot of yea's. > > > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > > $1000 just now. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Maybe i'll bite and get the FA 50 1.4 AND an FA 35 2.0. I'll check and see what i shot the A 50 1.7 at. Dave On Jan 3, 2008 12:30 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For events like this, I generally use the FA 35/2. It's fast, yet it's wide > enough to give you coverage in tight spots. Depending on the level of > illumination in the room, it might be tough to get enough available light to > use the 77 indoors. You'll want at least 1/60th shutter speed, even with > shake reduction. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hey troops. > > > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > > > Some really good musicians up here. > > > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > > > My bad there. > > > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > > stuff was usable. > > > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > > lot of yea's. > > > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > > $1000 just now. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > -- > > Equine Photography > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > Ontario Canada > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow > > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Vistek has the FA 50/1.4 for $199 right now. Hanry's should match that price (they're listing at $220 last I checked). -Adam On 1/3/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey troops. > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > Some really good musicians up here. > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > My bad there. > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > stuff was usable. > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > lot of yea's. > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > $1000 just now. > > > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
For events like this, I generally use the FA 35/2. It's fast, yet it's wide enough to give you coverage in tight spots. Depending on the level of illumination in the room, it might be tough to get enough available light to use the 77 indoors. You'll want at least 1/60th shutter speed, even with shake reduction. Paul -- Original message -- From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey troops. > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > Some really good musicians up here. > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > My bad there. > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > stuff was usable. > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > lot of yea's. > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > $1000 just now. > > > > Dave > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
Sounds like you need a 31mm Ltd. (My first subtle attempt at enablement for '08) I highly recommend the FA 50mm f1.4. Very good bang for your buck. Cheers, Dave On Jan 4, 2008 2:03 AM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey troops. > > The last two years, our fledgling radio station has put on a fund > raiser music night, with local folky/blues talent. > > Some really good musicians up here. > > Any way, last year i wanted to shoot more natural light, as apposed to > flash, and that was 1 reason i ordered > the 77 lt, but iot came in to late. I used my A 50 f1.7 but for some > reason back focused all the shots. I went with what my eye told me was > focused, not the beep and AF confirmation light. > > My bad there. > > The lighting effect was good, but no shots were usable. Just the flash > stuff was usable. > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > lot of yea's. > > The 50-135 f 2.8 might work here aswell, but i'd rather not spend > $1000 just now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Low light prime
- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Low light prime > > We are planning another in Feb and i have been asked to shoot it > again. I now have the 77 and would like one more AF fast prime, either > a 35 or 50. I know there are a lot to choose from, but any personal > favorites from doing this kind of work. The FA 50 1.7 seems to draw a > lot of yea's. Any 50/1.4 is going to be a good choice, an A series or later would be the way to go. Somehwere around the house I'm pretty sure I still have an FA50/1.7. I recall it as being an excellent lens, and very inexpensive. The FA50/1.4 wasn't overly expensive and is around a half stop faster. I have the A35/2 and the FA35/2, and am pleased with both, though I tend to use the 31 more. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
