Re: Luminious landscape Photokina report.

2012-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I'll give them a little license, with the instant return mirror, Asahi 
essentially invented the modern SLR.  I have an Alpa Reflex, (type II, 
Badged Bolsey  Reflex), that is really quite crude with an non instant 
return mirror and waist level thru the lens viewing, no prism.  
Believe me Pentax invented the modern SLR.


On 9/23/2012 2:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think that Pentax invented the slr.

I thought that the Asahi innovation with the Pentax camera (it was originally 
just a model of an Asahi brand camera) was that it had the first instantly 
returning mirror.

Before that when the mirror raised and shutter fired the mirror stayed up (and 
the viewfinder remained black) until the shutter was cocked (don't know if this 
was tied into winding the film yet) for the next photo.

But there were slrs around before the Pentax.

Cheers,
frank

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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
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Subject: Luminious landscape Photokina report.

Pull quote about Pentax, in fact pretty much the entire report about
Pentax...

Oh, god, poor Pentax. They invented the SLR, though you would never
know it. Their cameras have always been excellent. Their lenses have
always been excellent. Their marketing? Face-palm! Pentax had but a
fraction of the physical presence of the other major makers, and nothing
to push their innovative products. The foremost of these is the K-5IIs,
which, hugely, looses the dreaded Anti-aliasing filter. This is the
first APS-C sized camera to take that brave step, following in the
D800E’s lead. This is potentially a big deal, but I could barely get
anyone to even explain it to me. Ugh.

Marketing!





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Re: Luminious landscape Photokina report.

2012-09-23 Thread David Parsons
Yep, Exacta make non-return SLRs at least a decade before Pentax made
autoreturn SLRs.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think that Pentax invented the slr.

 I thought that the Asahi innovation with the Pentax camera (it was originally 
 just a model of an Asahi brand camera) was that it had the first instantly 
 returning mirror.

 Before that when the mirror raised and shutter fired the mirror stayed up 
 (and the viewfinder remained black) until the shutter was cocked (don't know 
 if this was tied into winding the film yet) for the next photo.

 But there were slrs around before the Pentax.

 Cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 23, 2012 9/23/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Luminious landscape Photokina report.

 Pull quote about Pentax, in fact pretty much the entire report about
 Pentax...

 Oh, god, poor Pentax. They invented the SLR, though you would never
 know it. Their cameras have always been excellent. Their lenses have
 always been excellent. Their marketing? Face-palm! Pentax had but a
 fraction of the physical presence of the other major makers, and nothing
 to push their innovative products. The foremost of these is the K-5IIs,
 which, hugely, looses the dreaded Anti-aliasing filter. This is the
 first APS-C sized camera to take that brave step, following in the
 D800E’s lead. This is potentially a big deal, but I could barely get
 anyone to even explain it to me. Ugh.

 Marketing!


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