Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
I've been using NiMH batteries in my MZ-S since I got the BG-10 in February 2002, with no ill effects. I leave the battery selector on "Alkaline". I also use them in the AF-360 flash, again without troubles. I don't know about older flashes. The only problem with these batteries is that their "idle life" is shorter than alkalines -- even if unused, NiMH batteries will go flat within a few months; alkalines are good for a couple of years. Not really important, unless you go for long periods without using your camera. A good rule with NiCd/NiMH batteries: put them in the charger the night before you intend to use them. -- Kristian On 7 Dec 2004, at 18:47, Nick Clark wrote: I haven't really gotten on very well with the BG-10 grip. I find the vertical shutter release button is in the wrong place for my fingers; it needs to be at the end of the grip, unless I'm holding it wrong. It's more comfortable using the body release even with the grip attached. The IR is useful, but that should have been built into the body in the first place. As I'm often carrying the MZ-S with the *istD kit the extra bulk and weight of the grip tends to stay at home. Incidentally, does anyone know if NiMh batteries are OK in the grip? I t only mentions alkaline and lithium in the manual. Nick -Original Message- From: "Pat White"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 07/12/04 03:13:01 Go for it! The MZ-S is a great camera, and even better with the BG-10 grip. Not so sure about the 360 flash, since the head doesn't swivel. I've been using a Metz 40MZ-3 flash with my MZ-S, with good success.
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 21:14:37 +0100, Carlos Royo wrote: > I don't find the shutter release button in the BG-10 to be misplaced, > at least for my hands. I agree. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
No there's an IR sensor window on the back of the BG-10 that's uncovered when IR is switched on. Nick -Original Message- From: "Jack Davis"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 07/12/04 20:05:32 Nick, Appreciate your comments. The shutter release problem with the BG-10 is a surprising design blunder. If I do finally order the MZ-S, I'll include the grip for purposes of extendeng the available power. The IR would be nice, but is it true that it only works from the front of the camera? When I read that their was an IR sensor, my hope was that it would be a handy vibration free release to replace the cable switch. Front only?
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Carlos Royo escribió: Jack Davis escribió: Nick, Appreciate your comments. The shutter release problem with the BG-10 is a surprising design blunder. If I do finally order the MZ-S, I'll include the grip for purposes of extendeng the available power. I don't find the shutter release button in the BG-10 to be misplaced, at least for my hands. By the way, the shutter release button in the BG-20 grip (*ist film SLR), is at the end of the grip, as Nick prefers, but I find it less comfortable, at least for my hand & wrist.
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Jack Davis escribió: Nick, Appreciate your comments. The shutter release problem with the BG-10 is a surprising design blunder. If I do finally order the MZ-S, I'll include the grip for purposes of extendeng the available power. I don't find the shutter release button in the BG-10 to be misplaced, at least for my hands. The IR would be nice, but is it true that it only works from the front of the camera? When I read that their was an IR sensor, my hope was that it would be a handy vibration free release to replace the cable switch. Front only? No, it works both from the front and the back of the camera, but only if you are using the BG-10 grip. I use a cable release, though.
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Nick, Appreciate your comments. The shutter release problem with the BG-10 is a surprising design blunder. If I do finally order the MZ-S, I'll include the grip for purposes of extendeng the available power. The IR would be nice, but is it true that it only works from the front of the camera? When I read that their was an IR sensor, my hope was that it would be a handy vibration free release to replace the cable switch. Front only? Jack --- Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't really gotten on very well with the BG-10 > grip. I find the vertical shutter release button is > in the wrong place for my fingers; it needs to be at > the end of the grip, unless I'm holding it wrong. > It's more comfortable using the body release even > with the grip attached. > > The IR is useful, but that should have been built > into the body in the first place. > > As I'm often carrying the MZ-S with the *istD kit > the extra bulk and weight of the grip tends to stay > at home. > > Incidentally, does anyone know if NiMh batteries are > OK in the grip? I t only mentions alkaline and > lithium in the manual. > > Nick > -Original Message- > From: "Pat White"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 07/12/04 03:13:01 > > Go for it! The MZ-S is a great camera, and even > better with the BG-10 grip. > Not so sure about the 360 flash, since the head > doesn't swivel. I've been > using a Metz 40MZ-3 flash with my MZ-S, with > good success. > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
I haven't really gotten on very well with the BG-10 grip. I find the vertical shutter release button is in the wrong place for my fingers; it needs to be at the end of the grip, unless I'm holding it wrong. It's more comfortable using the body release even with the grip attached. The IR is useful, but that should have been built into the body in the first place. As I'm often carrying the MZ-S with the *istD kit the extra bulk and weight of the grip tends to stay at home. Incidentally, does anyone know if NiMh batteries are OK in the grip? I t only mentions alkaline and lithium in the manual. Nick -Original Message- From: "Pat White"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 07/12/04 03:13:01 Go for it! The MZ-S is a great camera, and even better with the BG-10 grip. Not so sure about the 360 flash, since the head doesn't swivel. I've been using a Metz 40MZ-3 flash with my MZ-S, with good success.
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Carlos, Good information. Thanks! Jack --- Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Davis escribió: > > Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to > auto > > focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S. > > > > Hello, Jack: > I have had an MZ-S for three years, and although I'm > not rich enough to > own an FA 28-70 2.8, I use a Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 > ATX Pro II on this > camera, and also an FA* 80-200 2.8 > It focuses really fast with the Tokina 2.6-2.8, and > not so much with the > FA 80-200 2.8, but continuous predictive AF works > well with the 80-200. > I have had excellent results shooting different > moving objects going at > 80-100 kph many times. > As someone has told you some messages ago, focusing > in low light is > really good too, much better than most AF SLRs. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Jack Davis escribió: Bob, Your response is appreciated. I haven't double checked this, but I thought the fps was designed to be something like 2.5. Hope it serves you well. It is 2.5 fps, with or without the BG-10
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Jack Davis escribió: Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to auto focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S. Hello, Jack: I have had an MZ-S for three years, and although I'm not rich enough to own an FA 28-70 2.8, I use a Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II on this camera, and also an FA* 80-200 2.8 It focuses really fast with the Tokina 2.6-2.8, and not so much with the FA 80-200 2.8, but continuous predictive AF works well with the 80-200. I have had excellent results shooting different moving objects going at 80-100 kph many times. As someone has told you some messages ago, focusing in low light is really good too, much better than most AF SLRs.
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Pat, Thanks! I appreciate your passing along some operational points worth considering. I'm sure the learning trauma will be lessened as a result. Jack --- Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In case my posts in the previous thread got lost, > here they are again: > > Go for it! The MZ-S is a great camera, and even > better with the BG-10 grip. > Not so sure about the 360 flash, since the head > doesn't swivel. I've been > using a Metz 40MZ-3 flash with my MZ-S, with good > success. > > The MZ-S focuses well in dim light, better than the > D100 or S1 Pro. As for > noise, it's louder than a practically silent EOS-1V > when focusing, but also > much less expensive. I don't find it too loud, and > the focusing is accurate. > It's easy to switch it from automatically choosing a > focus point to using a > preset focus point. The AF certainly seems accurate > enough. > > Lens-wise, I've been using almost all F or FA > lenses, with the exception of > an old 500f8 mirror lens, and the in-focus indicator > is handy with that one. > My everyday and short studio lens is the 28-70f4, > and it's a handy > combination with the MZ-S. The 28-70f2.8 is quite a > bit bulkier, but should > work well with it. > > As for William's "film is dead" comment, I can't > agree. Film and digital > have two different looks, and I prefer the look of > film. Digital appears > sharp, but has soft detail. Film appears soft, but > has clear detail. Neither > is perfect, nor is anything else in this world. Hope > this is helpful. > > Part II: > > Joe Tainter commented: > The default autofocus mode is multi-point, and it is > a contortion to switch > it to anything else (like central point, like any > knowledgeable photographer > would use). On the D and DS, central point can be > set to be the default. > > This is not exactly correct. The focus point mode > switch, on the right side > of the lens mount, has 3 positions: Select, Lock, > and Auto. There is no > default. Admittedly, selecting the focus point can > be fiddly, but switching > from Auto to Lock (to use your favorite focus point > only (Joe's is the > central one, mine is the second from the right, > since it usually lines up > nicely with the model's eye)) is simple, for those > situations when you > prefer a fixed focus point. > > The AF point mode switch can be left in the Lock > position all the time, if > that's preferred. Hope this helps. > > Part III: > > As for the drive speed, the spec says 2.5fps, and it > seems adequate for most > kinds of shooting, other than burning through film > at sports events. > > Pat White > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
In case my posts in the previous thread got lost, here they are again: Go for it! The MZ-S is a great camera, and even better with the BG-10 grip. Not so sure about the 360 flash, since the head doesn't swivel. I've been using a Metz 40MZ-3 flash with my MZ-S, with good success. The MZ-S focuses well in dim light, better than the D100 or S1 Pro. As for noise, it's louder than a practically silent EOS-1V when focusing, but also much less expensive. I don't find it too loud, and the focusing is accurate. It's easy to switch it from automatically choosing a focus point to using a preset focus point. The AF certainly seems accurate enough. Lens-wise, I've been using almost all F or FA lenses, with the exception of an old 500f8 mirror lens, and the in-focus indicator is handy with that one. My everyday and short studio lens is the 28-70f4, and it's a handy combination with the MZ-S. The 28-70f2.8 is quite a bit bulkier, but should work well with it. As for William's "film is dead" comment, I can't agree. Film and digital have two different looks, and I prefer the look of film. Digital appears sharp, but has soft detail. Film appears soft, but has clear detail. Neither is perfect, nor is anything else in this world. Hope this is helpful. Part II: Joe Tainter commented: The default autofocus mode is multi-point, and it is a contortion to switch it to anything else (like central point, like any knowledgeable photographer would use). On the D and DS, central point can be set to be the default. This is not exactly correct. The focus point mode switch, on the right side of the lens mount, has 3 positions: Select, Lock, and Auto. There is no default. Admittedly, selecting the focus point can be fiddly, but switching from Auto to Lock (to use your favorite focus point only (Joe's is the central one, mine is the second from the right, since it usually lines up nicely with the model's eye)) is simple, for those situations when you prefer a fixed focus point. The AF point mode switch can be left in the Lock position all the time, if that's preferred. Hope this helps. Part III: As for the drive speed, the spec says 2.5fps, and it seems adequate for most kinds of shooting, other than burning through film at sports events. Pat White
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Bob, Your response is appreciated. I haven't double checked this, but I thought the fps was designed to be something like 2.5. Hope it serves you well. Jack --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack, > I'm a new owner (48 hours) and I think autofocus > speed is comparable > to the PZ-1p. > The motor is quieter (& higher pitched), but only 2 > fps. It makes my > LX with motor drive look/feel heavy and sound > noisey. > Regards, Bob S. > > > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:33:48 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to > auto > > focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jack > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Jack Davis wrote: "Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to auto focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S" I don't use autofocus much but I was satisfied with its performance on the few occasions when I needed it. It should work very well with your f/2.8 lens. I like my MZ-S a lot. Enough that I grabbed a second one when I found a demo unit at a very attractive price. The motor drive is more than quick enough for everything I've shot but I'm not a sports photographer. I shoot slides exclusively and the metering system is accurate enough that I very seldom need the spot meter. I do recommend the battery grip unless you have access to a cheap and plentiful supply of CR-2s. If you're going to shoot enough film to justify the expense then I recommend the camera. It's a jewel. Tom Reese
Re: MZ-S (a new beginning)
Jack, I'm a new owner (48 hours) and I think autofocus speed is comparable to the PZ-1p. The motor is quieter (& higher pitched), but only 2 fps. It makes my LX with motor drive look/feel heavy and sound noisey. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:33:48 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still would appreciate almost any opinion as to auto > focus/motor drive aspects of the MZ-S. > > Thanks, > > Jack > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >
