Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
Pentax also made one in K mount.
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/short-tele/K100f4-Bellows.html
On 6/4/2010 1:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
What you really want is a lens optimized to have a flat depth of
field. Pentax made one - a 100mm for a screw mount.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: "J.C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
using a "regular" 50mm might work, but not as well
as a dedicated macro bellows lens will work. Another
low cost but high performance solution is to use a enlarging lens via
adapter. Those are similar to a macro bellows lens.
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Maas
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Subject: Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker
wrote:
Just had to share this apparent gem.
Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a
Fotodiox for $49.95 US at Amazon.
He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough
and accurate.
Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R
A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is:
http://is.gd/cCuc9
I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that
my only macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd
have to try the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage
around for a deal on an old macro.
Has anyone here tried one out by any chance?
-bmw
I haven't tried that particular one, but I've used bellows before.
Note you
can use a regular 50mm on it, no need for a macro lens as the Bellows
will
provide plenty of extension (my current bellows gets 2:1 magnification
with
a 50mm lens).
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Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 01:26:42PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Christian Skofteland > wrote: > > > > F0 eh? wow! I want a 50mm F0 lens too! > > > > -- > > > > Christian > > f0 is what EOS bodies read out with no lens communication. > -- H, I'll have to check that. I have used a lot of screw mount lenses on the 20D and don't recall seeing "F0", but I may just not have noticed as I'm not looking for aperture info anyway when using those lenses... -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 01:31:10PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: > What you really want is a lens optimized to have a flat depth of > field. Pentax made one - a 100mm for a screw mount. > I had the 100/4 bellows lens in K mount. sweet lens on the auto Bellows and also worked well reversed on a 200/4 for 2x macro. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
Flat field of focus to be exact, which is a common design feature of macro lenses, not specific to bellows macros. What's unique about bellows macros is that they are short barrel lenses and require a bellows to hit infinity in most configurations. Pentax made one, Nikon made a couple and Olympus made about 4, including a 20mm f2. -Adam On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > What you really want is a lens optimized to have a flat depth of field. > Pentax made one - a 100mm for a screw mount. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "J.C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: Macro bellows: fifty bucks! > > > using a "regular" 50mm might work, but not as well > as a dedicated macro bellows lens will work. Another > low cost but high performance solution is to use a enlarging lens via > adapter. Those are similar to a macro bellows lens. > > -- > J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) > Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ > > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam > Maas > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:53 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks! > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker > wrote: >> >> Just had to share this apparent gem. >> >> Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a >> Fotodiox for $49.95 US at Amazon. >> >> He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough >> and accurate. >> >> Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R >> >> A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: >> http://is.gd/cCuc9 >> >> I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that >> my only macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd >> have to try the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage >> around for a deal on an old macro. >> >> Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? >> >> -bmw >> > > I haven't tried that particular one, but I've used bellows before. Note you > can use a regular 50mm on it, no need for a macro lens as the Bellows will > provide plenty of extension (my current bellows gets 2:1 magnification with > a 50mm lens). > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
What you really want is a lens optimized to have a flat depth of field. Pentax made one - a 100mm for a screw mount. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "J.C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Macro bellows: fifty bucks! using a "regular" 50mm might work, but not as well as a dedicated macro bellows lens will work. Another low cost but high performance solution is to use a enlarging lens via adapter. Those are similar to a macro bellows lens. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Just had to share this apparent gem. Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a Fotodiox for $49.95 US at Amazon. He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough and accurate. Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: http://is.gd/cCuc9 I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that my only macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd have to try the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage around for a deal on an old macro. Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? -bmw I haven't tried that particular one, but I've used bellows before. Note you can use a regular 50mm on it, no need for a macro lens as the Bellows will provide plenty of extension (my current bellows gets 2:1 magnification with a 50mm lens). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
2010/6/4 eckinator : > 2010/6/4 Adam Maas : >> >> f0 is what EOS bodies read out with no lens communication. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero > goes to show how damn fast them pesky Canons are... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
2010/6/4 Adam Maas : > > f0 is what EOS bodies read out with no lens communication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
Macro lenses are better for this use as JCO notes, and enlarging lenses are also good choices, but you can use non-macro lenses too. -Adam On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:14 PM, eckinator wrote: > With a bellows you don't need a macro lens. A basic bellows like that > one without aperture transmission is nothing more than an adjustable > length extension tube but heavier. The helix drive Pentax ones are > great but hard to come by. Alternatively, I still have two Novoflex > bellows with aperture transmission for sale that I was too lazy to put > up on eBay. EUR 100 for the better one, USD 100 for the older. > Shipping on top. Contact me offlist if you are interested. > Cheers > Ecke > > 2010/6/4 Bruce Walker : >> Just had to share this apparent gem. >> >> Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a Fotodiox for >> $49.95 US at Amazon. >> >> He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough and >> accurate. >> >> Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R >> >> A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: >> http://is.gd/cCuc9 >> >> I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that my only >> macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd have to try >> the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage around for a deal >> on an old macro. >> >> Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? >> >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Christian Skofteland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 11:34:45AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: >> Just had to share this apparent gem. >> >> Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a >> Fotodiox for $49.95 US at Amazon. >> >> He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough >> and accurate. >> >> Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R >> >> A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: >> http://is.gd/cCuc9 >> >> I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that >> my only macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. >> I'd have to try the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or >> rummage around for a deal on an old macro. >> >> Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? >> > > From the review of the EOS version: > "Because there are no electronic connections in the bellows to communicate > between the digital camera and the lens it is impossible to use automatic > focus or to set your aperture. This is something that was not mentioned in > the item description but is very important to know. Luckily I can focus > manually with my macro lens but I'm still stuck with the aperture at zero > when I would prefer to stop down to 22 or 32." > > F0 eh? wow! I want a 50mm F0 lens too! > > -- > > Christian f0 is what EOS bodies read out with no lens communication. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
2010/6/4 Christian Skofteland : > > F0 eh? wow! I want a 50mm F0 lens too! Just leave the cap on =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 11:34:45AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: > Just had to share this apparent gem. > > Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a > Fotodiox for $49.95 US at Amazon. > > He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough > and accurate. > > Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R > > A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: > http://is.gd/cCuc9 > > I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that > my only macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. > I'd have to try the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or > rummage around for a deal on an old macro. > > Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? > >From the review of the EOS version: "Because there are no electronic connections in the bellows to communicate between the digital camera and the lens it is impossible to use automatic focus or to set your aperture. This is something that was not mentioned in the item description but is very important to know. Luckily I can focus manually with my macro lens but I'm still stuck with the aperture at zero when I would prefer to stop down to 22 or 32." F0 eh? wow! I want a 50mm F0 lens too! -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
With a bellows you don't need a macro lens. A basic bellows like that one without aperture transmission is nothing more than an adjustable length extension tube but heavier. The helix drive Pentax ones are great but hard to come by. Alternatively, I still have two Novoflex bellows with aperture transmission for sale that I was too lazy to put up on eBay. EUR 100 for the better one, USD 100 for the older. Shipping on top. Contact me offlist if you are interested. Cheers Ecke 2010/6/4 Bruce Walker : > Just had to share this apparent gem. > > Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a Fotodiox for > $49.95 US at Amazon. > > He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough and > accurate. > > Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R > > A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: > http://is.gd/cCuc9 > > I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that my only > macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd have to try > the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage around for a deal > on an old macro. > > Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? > > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
using a "regular" 50mm might work, but not as well as a dedicated macro bellows lens will work. Another low cost but high performance solution is to use a enlarging lens via adapter. Those are similar to a macro bellows lens. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Just had to share this apparent gem. > > Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a > Fotodiox for $49.95 US at Amazon. > > He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough > and accurate. > > Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R > > A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: > http://is.gd/cCuc9 > > I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that > my only macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd > have to try the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage > around for a deal on an old macro. > > Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? > > -bmw > I haven't tried that particular one, but I've used bellows before. Note you can use a regular 50mm on it, no need for a macro lens as the Bellows will provide plenty of extension (my current bellows gets 2:1 magnification with a 50mm lens). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro bellows: fifty bucks!
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Just had to share this apparent gem. > > Kirk Tuck in his blog points out a great macro bellows deal, a Fotodiox for > $49.95 US at Amazon. > > He has tested it (on Canon) and found it to be as advertised, tough and > accurate. > > Kirk's blog entry: http://is.gd/cCu8R > > A link to the Pentax flavour of it at Amazon.com is: > http://is.gd/cCuc9 > > I think even I can afford this! The only showstopper for me is that my only > macro lens is a DA Ltd and as such has no aperture ring. I'd have to try > the reversing ring trick with my old SMC 50mm or rummage around for a deal > on an old macro. > > Has anyone here tried one out by any chance? > > -bmw > I haven't tried that particular one, but I've used bellows before. Note you can use a regular 50mm on it, no need for a macro lens as the Bellows will provide plenty of extension (my current bellows gets 2:1 magnification with a 50mm lens). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
