Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:38 pm, Rob Studdert wrote: > Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the > most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and > regulations too. Our banks are doing well but that's because the vast majority of them (by size) are owned by Aussies. That, and we're selling a cubic snotload of dairy products to China. The building industry is booming due to the earthquake recovery. It's reported to be boosting the economy but it seems more like a broken window fallacy to me. The net effect will be negative as people are not getting fully paid out by their insurers. At least your government stood up to them after the QLD floods. No such luck here. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
They are still making profit just not as much as they used to. The economic crisis was very tough in some parts, my former employer went bankrupt. I sure wasn't thinking about buying cameras then. A lot of people were getting mortgage loans in CHF before 2009 when it was cheap. Then look what happened: http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CHF&to=EUR&view=5Y Those people are in big trouble now, many of them have lost their houses. As Bob pointed out, the Eurozone is different from the EU, not all member states have the same currency: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union But the economy of the member states are affecting each other, we all felt the effects of Greek government-debt crisis. There are subsidiaries of Greek banks in Romania, and when people heard the news they were literally running for their money. This in turn made it even worse. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:47 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > The author puts all of the blame on the camera industry, forgetting > externalizes such as the generally lousy world economy over the last 6 or 7 > years. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/what_matters.shtml > > -- > A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the > crazy, crazier. > > - H.L.Mencken > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
Enjoy http://www.apra.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx ;) On 16 March 2014 12:30, P.J. Alling wrote: > Unlike ours your baking rules are probably rational. > > > On 3/15/2014 8:38 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: >> >> Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the >> most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and >> regulations too. >> >> >> >> On 16 March 2014 11:19, P.J. Alling wrote: >>> >>> You can always find bright spots, and yes Canada is fine, but most of >>> Europe >>> the notable exception being Germany, is in sorry straights, Japan has >>> never >>> really recovered from it's recession from 20 years ago. Anyone who >>> believes >>> the official numbers out of China is as delusional as well the people >>> producing those Chinese numbers. Look at South America and the number of >>> counties who's economies are bumping along the bottom. Most of the world >>> Economy just simply sucks right now, and sadly doesn't look to be getting >>> any better. I only hope that we don't drag Canada down. >>> >>> >>> On 3/15/2014 4:18 PM, Bill wrote: On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > > To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid > points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted it is a fairly large market, but it is not the center of the universe. Canada, as an example, has sailed through the past 10 years relatively unscathed simply because of better economic policies. bill >>> >>> -- >>> A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the >>> crazy, crazier. >>> >>> - H.L.Mencken >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> > > > -- > A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the > crazy, crazier. > > - H.L.Mencken > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
Unlike ours your baking rules are probably rational. On 3/15/2014 8:38 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and regulations too. On 16 March 2014 11:19, P.J. Alling wrote: You can always find bright spots, and yes Canada is fine, but most of Europe the notable exception being Germany, is in sorry straights, Japan has never really recovered from it's recession from 20 years ago. Anyone who believes the official numbers out of China is as delusional as well the people producing those Chinese numbers. Look at South America and the number of counties who's economies are bumping along the bottom. Most of the world Economy just simply sucks right now, and sadly doesn't look to be getting any better. I only hope that we don't drag Canada down. On 3/15/2014 4:18 PM, Bill wrote: On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted it is a fairly large market, but it is not the center of the universe. Canada, as an example, has sailed through the past 10 years relatively unscathed simply because of better economic policies. bill -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and regulations too. On 16 March 2014 11:19, P.J. Alling wrote: > You can always find bright spots, and yes Canada is fine, but most of Europe > the notable exception being Germany, is in sorry straights, Japan has never > really recovered from it's recession from 20 years ago. Anyone who believes > the official numbers out of China is as delusional as well the people > producing those Chinese numbers. Look at South America and the number of > counties who's economies are bumping along the bottom. Most of the world > Economy just simply sucks right now, and sadly doesn't look to be getting > any better. I only hope that we don't drag Canada down. > > > On 3/15/2014 4:18 PM, Bill wrote: >> >> On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: >>> >>> To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid >>> points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. >> >> >> Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted >> it is a fairly large market, but it is not the center of the universe. >> Canada, as an example, has sailed through the past 10 years relatively >> unscathed simply because of better economic policies. >> >> bill >> >> > > > -- > A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the > crazy, crazier. > > - H.L.Mencken > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
You can always find bright spots, and yes Canada is fine, but most of Europe the notable exception being Germany, is in sorry straights, Japan has never really recovered from it's recession from 20 years ago. Anyone who believes the official numbers out of China is as delusional as well the people producing those Chinese numbers. Look at South America and the number of counties who's economies are bumping along the bottom. Most of the world Economy just simply sucks right now, and sadly doesn't look to be getting any better. I only hope that we don't drag Canada down. On 3/15/2014 4:18 PM, Bill wrote: On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted it is a fairly large market, but it is not the center of the universe. Canada, as an example, has sailed through the past 10 years relatively unscathed simply because of better economic policies. bill -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
Note to Paul: Eurozone <> European Union. > On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:55, "Paul Stenquist" wrote: > > Note to Bill: European Union, common currency. > > Paul via phone > >>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Bill wrote: >>> >>> On 15/03/2014 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is >>> small and manageable. >> >> Some parts of Europe yes, others no, it depends on the country (note to >> Paul, Europe isn't a country). The whole point is that economies that were >> managed didn't really get hit, while economies that had insufficient >> controls got buggered. >> >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
Note to Bill: European Union, common currency. Paul via phone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Bill wrote: > >> On 15/03/2014 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is >> small and manageable. > > Some parts of Europe yes, others no, it depends on the country (note to Paul, > Europe isn't a country). The whole point is that economies that were managed > didn't really get hit, while economies that had insufficient controls got > buggered. > > bill > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
On 15/03/2014 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is small and manageable. Some parts of Europe yes, others no, it depends on the country (note to Paul, Europe isn't a country). The whole point is that economies that were managed didn't really get hit, while economies that had insufficient controls got buggered. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is small and manageable. Paul via phone > On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Bill wrote: > >> On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: >> To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid >> points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. > > Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted it > is a fairly large market, but it is not the center of the universe. > Canada, as an example, has sailed through the past 10 years relatively > unscathed simply because of better economic policies. > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted it is a fairly large market, but it is not the center of the universe. Canada, as an example, has sailed through the past 10 years relatively unscathed simply because of better economic policies. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.
To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, "P.J. Alling" > wrote: > > The author puts all of the blame on the camera industry, forgetting > externalizes such as the generally lousy world economy over the last 6 or 7 > years. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/what_matters.shtml > > -- > A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, > crazier. > > - H.L.Mencken > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
