Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-07-02 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

When you pay for something with Paypal, you have the option of specifying 
which funding source they will use. You can register as many credit cards as 
you want with them, and choose them instead of your bank account when buying 
things to obtain extended warranty or price protection, etc, services. I do 
this with an AmEx card account.


I agree with the above. What I have not managed yet is to renew my CC 
allocation. I have a balance of $1.43 for 9 months now.


Kostas



Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-07-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 1, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Graywolf wrote:

To accept paypal you have to give them access to your bank account.  
Then anything you buy they do an ETF bankdraft and only if that  
does not go through do they charge it to your credit card. In other  
words they use your credit card for a back up. Not great if you  
don't want to use funds in your bank for the purchase. In my  
particular case this makes no difference because I actually do not  
have a credit card but a visa check card instead which, of course,  
drafts my checking account, however I have heard some complaints  
from folks who thought they were making the purchase on time. There  
may actually be someway around this but as I said it makes no  
difference in my own case.


When you pay for something with Paypal, you have the option of  
specifying which funding source they will use. You can register as  
many credit cards as you want with them, and choose them instead of  
your bank account when buying things to obtain extended warranty or  
price protection, etc, services. I do this with an AmEx card account.


Godfrey



Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-07-01 Thread Graywolf
Some points no one has mentioned. 


To accept paypal you have to give them access to your bank account. Then 
anything you buy they do an ETF bankdraft and only if that does not go through 
do they charge it to your credit card. In other words they use your credit card 
for a back up. Not great if you don't want to use funds in your bank for the 
purchase. In my particular case this makes no difference because I actually do 
not have a credit card but a visa check card instead which, of course, drafts 
my checking account, however I have heard some complaints from folks who 
thought they were making the purchase on time. There may actually be someway 
around this but as I said it makes no difference in my own case.

When you want to get funds from your paypal account you log on to paypal and do 
a transfer to your bank. I use BOA and the transfer goes through in a matter of 
hours, definately the money has always been available the next business day. I 
have heard people at other banks horror stories where it takes a week or ten 
days to show up in their account.

There is also a paypal debit card you can get and just draw directly from your paypal account. 


I believe you can also get a paypal credit card, and then they charge the card in 
preference to your bank account when you make a purchase, I wonder why ?

BTW, some folks use their paypal account as kind of a hidden bank account. 
Since paypal is not licensed as a bank they are (or at least were) exempt from 
some of the banking laws. They do not (or did not--things change) report to the 
IRS either.

graywolf
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi,

I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps someone
can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account would get
into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are the options
of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.

Shel 







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RE: OT - PayPal Question

2005-07-01 Thread Jens Bladt
You press the Withdraw button. This wil transfere funds to you credit card
account.
I guess yuo must be internatianally verified in order to do this. Get a
second credit card, like a MasterCard.
Regards

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 1. juli 2005 05:20
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: OT - PayPal Question


Hi,

I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps someone
can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account would get
into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are the options
of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.

Shel





Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-07-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff"

Subject: OT - PayPal Question



Hi,

I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps someone
can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account would get
into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are the options
of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.


Thats the big secret about PayPal. Apparently, there is a way to get your 
money from them.

I haven't figured it out yet.

William Robb 





Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-06-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 30, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps  
someone
can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account would  
get
into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are the  
options

of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.


I still do it the slow, free way ... slow being about two days to  
transfer direct to my bank with no fee. Paypal already gets their  
3.5% for the service so I can take credit card payments, etc, don't  
want to pay them any more.


Basically, you just do a Withdraw Funds and point them to your  
authorized bank account. Simple and easy. I generally don't mind the  
wait, as I don't sell things with any desperrate hurry to get the  
money in mind.


Godfrey



RE: OT - PayPal Question

2005-06-30 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't know how it is now but it used to take up to 3 days
and it was PAYPALS fault. ( this was 2 years ago) Back then if you
needed funds you
had to request them and then they deducted them immediately
but didn't transfer right away- total scam. I don't need
cash so I just spend the money with debit card instead of my banking
account
money to get it out. Works for me.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:34 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - PayPal Question


The transfers from paypal to my checking account go through quite 
rapidly. Perhaps it's your bank that's at fault?
Paul
On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:29 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> I used to get the money transferred out of paypal account into my bank

> checking account in lump sums by request (free) . It was slow and 
> sucked. Then they came out with the paypal debit Mastercard which is 
> great, just spend
> the money out as needed. I would not recommend any other way of
> doing it. If you need cash you can use PP card at ATMs but fees are
> high. Cheapest
> way to get cash quick is buy postal money orders with PP debit card
and
> then
> cash them at same window! this way you can get up to $500 CASH out of
> the
> paypal account for only 85 cents and FAST. I don't do it often as I 
> just
> end
> up spending the money out without any difficulty either on ebay or in
> "real life".
>
> JCO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:20 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: OT - PayPal Question
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I

> cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps 
> someone can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account 
> would get into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What 
> are the options of getting the $$?  How long does it take?
>
> Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.
>
> Shel
>
>



RE: OT - PayPal Question

2005-06-30 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the paypal debit card is way better scheme dude. get it, its free.
jco

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:31 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - PayPal Question


Paypal deducts a small percentage of the gross proceeds. I don't 
remember how much. I retrieve my funds by having them transfered to my 
checking account. It's quite simple and has worked well for me. Paul On
Jun 30, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I

> cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps 
> someone can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account 
> would get into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What 
> are the options
> of getting the $$?  How long does it take?
>
> Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.
>
> Shel
>
>



Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
The transfers from paypal to my checking account go through quite 
rapidly. Perhaps it's your bank that's at fault?

Paul
On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:29 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:


I used to get the money transferred out of paypal account into my bank
checking account in lump sums by request (free) . It was slow and
sucked. Then
they came out with the paypal debit Mastercard which is great, just
spend
the money out as needed. I would not recommend any other way of
doing it. If you need cash you can use PP card at ATMs but fees are
high. Cheapest
way to get cash quick is buy postal money orders with PP debit card and
then
cash them at same window! this way you can get up to $500 CASH out of
the
paypal account for only 85 cents and FAST. I don't do it often as I 
just

end
up spending the money out without any difficulty either on ebay or in
"real life".

JCO

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:20 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT - PayPal Question


Hi,

I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps
someone can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account
would get into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are
the options of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.

Shel






Re: OT - PayPal Question

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paypal deducts a small percentage of the gross proceeds. I don't 
remember how much. I retrieve my funds by having them transfered to my 
checking account. It's quite simple and has worked well for me.

Paul
On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Hi,

I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps 
someone

can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account would get
into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are the 
options

of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.

Shel






RE: OT - PayPal Question

2005-06-30 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I used to get the money transferred out of paypal account into my bank
checking account in lump sums by request (free) . It was slow and
sucked. Then
they came out with the paypal debit Mastercard which is great, just
spend
the money out as needed. I would not recommend any other way of
doing it. If you need cash you can use PP card at ATMs but fees are
high. Cheapest
way to get cash quick is buy postal money orders with PP debit card and
then
cash them at same window! this way you can get up to $500 CASH out of
the
paypal account for only 85 cents and FAST. I don't do it often as I just
end
up spending the money out without any difficulty either on ebay or in
"real life".

JCO

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:20 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT - PayPal Question


Hi,

I'm thinking about starting to take PayPal for auction payments, but I
cannot find out from the PayPal site how I get my money.  Perhaps
someone can explain the process of how the money in my PayPal account
would get into my hands.  What info do I have to give PayPal?  What are
the options of getting the $$?  How long does it take?

Off list is fine ... on list is OK, too.

Shel 




Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Monday, May 17, 2004, 4:53:54 PM, Boris wrote:
BL> Hi!

>>Therefore, no paypal there. You yourself can't use paypal, judging
>>from your .ru email. So why do you ask ;-) It seems you are both in
>>the same country? 

BL> Frantisek, I live in Israel. I use free web-based e-mail that is .ru
BL> but it does not mean that I live there.

BL> Thanks.

Oops ;-)

Sorry :)

I though you were actually from .ru country

Nevermind then. But as far as I know, the rest of the info holds -
PayPal has no affiliate in Russian Federatin, therefore your "pal"
cannot withdraw paypal payment. Except the skullduggery types of
sending money hidden in the stuffing of an envelope (see Cotty's ?
post), Western Union could be your bet. I don't like  them personally
because they are pretty expensive but I used them in a pinch. And I
certainly know that lot of people from Russia/... working semi-legally
in the EU use WU to send their money home. I would even think it's the
main revenuce of WU here. From experience from friends dealing with
Russian Federation, just sending money in an envelope isn't safe.
Well, it isn't safe even in our country, and we are member of European
Union now. Either adopt the skullduggery approach or use one of the
ripoff wire transfer services. Sorry.

Best regards,
   Frantisek Vlcek



Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread graywolf
Or just stick cash inside a greeting card. That doesn't work well if the guy is 
likely to claim he never got the money though.

--
Cotty wrote:
On 17/5/04, BORIS, discombobulated, offered:

I need to transfer a small sum of money, something like $30 to the 
person who does not have PayPal account. However, according to PayPal 
anyone with e-mail address can receive money. How is that done? Anyone 
has first hand experience with receiving money through PayPal without 
having account there? Does the fact that the person in question lives 
in Moscow makes issue more complicated?

The person receiving the money will have to register with Paypal and
lodge a credit card and/or a bank account. Don't forget the fees.
If I were you I would bung 30 bucks in an envelope and go for it.
If you're worried about theft, try this: I sent a few hundred dollars to
our dear South American PDMLer Albano using the following method. I
printed off a couple of pics and place them in an A4 sized reinforced
envelope. Within that envelope I also created a small space inside where
the cash was concealed, sort of like an envelop taped inside an envelope.
But it was done so in a way that if someone unsealed the main envelope,
the hidden envelope could not be seen. It was hidden behind stiffening,
ostensibly for the enclosed pics :-)
The main envelope was very thick anyway, and what with all the extra
padding and stiffening, any mail-thief would have opened it up, seen the
pics, nothing else, put it back, carried on.
The envelope needed to be carefully destroyed to retrieve the cash.
Counterfeiting, smuggling, espionage, you name it. Cotty's your man ;-)
Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
Counterfeiting, smuggling, espionage, you name it. Cotty's your man 
;-)
Your idea is cool. But I've found a person, you can think of them as 
of an agent, who'd pass the money directly...


Boris


Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread ernreed2
Cotty wrote to Boris:
> If I were you I would bung 30 bucks in an envelope and go for it.

I was going to suggest the very same thing. Just to let you know that at least 
two of us think so. :-)
 
(snip Cotty's detailed description of sending lots of money)

ERN



Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Boris lives in Israel ...

Shel Belinkoff


> [Original Message]
> From: Frantisek Vlcek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 5/17/2004 5:56:52 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: PayPal question
>
> Hi Boris,
>
> Russian Federation is not on the list of countries approved by Paypal.
> Therefore, no paypal there. You yourself can't use paypal, judging
> from your .ru email. So why do you ask ;-) It seems you are both in
> the same country? Definitely, even with Putinization of the life in RF,
there should be
> ways to send money reasonably securely inside the country? If you are
> in fact living abroad and just have a .ru address, I can't help you
> much but point to Western Union. It will be more costly though.
>
> Best regards,
>Frantisek Vlcek




Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Hi Boris,

Russian Federation is not on the list of countries approved by Paypal.
Therefore, no paypal there. You yourself can't use paypal, judging
from your .ru email. So why do you ask ;-) It seems you are both in
the same country? Definitely, even with Putinization of the life in RF, there should be
ways to send money reasonably securely inside the country? If you are
in fact living abroad and just have a .ru address, I can't help you
much but point to Western Union. It will be more costly though.

Best regards,
   Frantisek Vlcek



Re: OT: PayPal question

2004-05-17 Thread Mark Roberts
"Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I need to transfer a small sum of money, something like $30 to the 
>person who does not have PayPal account. However, according to PayPal 
>anyone with e-mail address can receive money. How is that done? 

Pay Pal sends the recipient an email saying they can have your $30.00...
if they sign up with Pay Pal.

>has first hand experience with receiving money through PayPal without 
>having account there? Does the fact that the person in question lives 
>in Moscow makes issue more complicated?

Oh yeah...

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