Re: OT: Yashica MF lenses

2002-04-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff

I'm just now going through the Xenotar-Planar machinations wrt a
possible Rolleiflex purchase.  These pages may be of some interest.

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=001CtQ
http://www.foto.no/rolleiflex/Rollei-9.html

£ukasz Kacperczyk wrote:
> 
> But isn't Xenotar the same as the Planar only made by Schneider?

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Re: OT: Yashica MF lenses

2002-04-07 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Sunday, April 07, 2002, 1:46:54 PM, Łukasz wrote:
ŁK> But isn't Xenotar the same as the Planar only made by Schneider?
ŁK> Łukasz

Well, It's like saying all Tessars are the same... While the original
Tessar was f/6.8, later tweaked to get f/4.5 and even f/2.8, all by
changing the diopter strengths and spacing of the various elements. So
now, some tessars are simply much better than others. Also, remember
that it can be complicated by using strange glass types, like
rare-earth Lanthanum glass, to improve the element refraction index.
IIRC Kodak used such glass in some Tessar formula lenses Ektars, and
one USSR made Tessar used La glass too, to improve it a lot.

A "planar" is similar, the original Planar developed by Rudolph
soemitime in 1890s evolved into different planars... the Zeiss one,
the Zeiss Jena Biometar (which has different split element into group.
Some say the Biometar 2.8/80 is better than the Planar 2.8/80...). The
Xenotar, etc... All might be derived from the same old Rudolph's
Planar, but vary slightly or more.

And the Russian lenses, most of the Helioses are Leitz Summilux copies
IIRC, but more or less tweaked...

As well as almost all 1.4/50 lenses are of quite "generic" gaussian design, but
they can differ a lot in quality between manufacturers.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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RE: OT: Yashica MF lenses

2002-04-07 Thread Łukasz Kacperczyk

But isn't Xenotar the same as the Planar only made by Schneider?
Łukasz
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Re: OT: Yashica MF lenses

2002-04-06 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Thanks. I was just curious about them. The comments on R Monagha's
site are positive abuot the original rollei (zeiss) mutars, somewhat pos about the
tele for Y and somewhat neg about the wide for Y.

BTW, I have seen several Rollefielxes (I have and used some older
ones, prewar) but Yashicas are clearly better in their focusing screen. Yes,
Planar is better than Tessar design by many degrees, but so is the
price. If I bought a Rollei (a 2.8 Planar tempts me, in such a small
box. Although I love the early, smaller Standard Rolleiflex '35), I
would have the screen changed to a beattie/microprism. The original
screen really "sucks" (sorry Wendy, but it's been long time somebody
used this word ). Why did Franke und Heidecke they put such stupid screen on 
otherwise
great camera ?!?

Frantisek
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RE: OT: Yashica MF lenses

2002-04-05 Thread Łukasz Kacperczyk

I'm no expert and I don't even like these cameras (the few I handled,
including one in 'like new' condition, were very loud compared to my old
Roleiflex Automat - I'm not talking about the shutter but the film advance
and shutter cocking), but I guess by adding a lens to the one fixed on the
camera you would lose a lot of light (a simmilar add on to Yashica Electro
is f/8 if I'm not mistaken). I doubt it would be easy to focus looking
through such a lens. But then again - I'm no expert and have no experience
with these add-on lenses, so I may be totally wrong.
Just my two cents.
Łukasz
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Re: OT: Yashica MF lenses

2002-04-05 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Frantisek,

I have no personal experience with them, but I read somewhere that the
Yashica auxilliary lenses are not sharp at all, and not really usable by
any "serious" photographer for that reason.

regards,
frank

Frantisek Vlcek wrote:

> Hi,
>I remember there are several Yashica TLR users out here, holding up
>bravely against the brutal onslaught of the so-called Brotherhood
>of Bloat & Thunder (mirror slap) ;-)
>
>Would you happen to know anything about the mutar-like add-on lenses
>(from Yashica or other manufact.)? The wideangle and tele
>attachments. Are they useful? What about adapting a generic 0.42x
>or 0.75x attachment lens to it?
>
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