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On 11/28/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Making children afraid of anything is stupid and irresponsible. Teaching > children caution, awareness, and the ability to exercise good judgment is > far more important. You are absolutely right, Shel. A year or two ago, I was walking with my kids down the street in Toronto, and a stranger walking the other direction on the sidewalk smiled and said "hi". I reciprocated. Later that day, on the streetcar, I engaged in some superficial conversation with a fellow traveller. My kids I noticed my kids snuggling against me as if they were uncomfortable. I asked what was wrong, and they said that their mom (my ex) told them that it was wrong to talk to strangers. They were afraid for my safety, because I was "talking with strangers". I had a long chat with them, letting them know that it's okay to exchange pleasantries with people on the street, or have brief conversations with people you don't know (although one must be careful not to reveal too much personal info). It's all part of living in society. I know with kids it can be difficult to teach such nuances. It's easier to make things black and white. They like it that way, and it's easier to teach that way. Maybe it's easier to drill into them, "don't talk to strangers", and once they've taken that to heart to teach the exceptions. Still, I found it sad that my kids seemed to walk the streets in fear that they'd be approached or talked to. I don't want to minimize the problems of perverts and weirdos approaching little kids. But, there has to be some balance, and the post that started this thread shows what can happen when that balance isn't kept. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On Nov 29, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Sometimes I wonder about the sanity of the world at large. Sometimes I just know, shake my head, and keep on doing what I do. Great theory so long as the insanity doesn't land you in the clink. ;-) I keep an eye on self-preservation and my own sanity along the way ... Godfrey
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On 11/28/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/28/05, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heard this on the radio this morning. > > > > http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 > > > > Maybe they shouldn't let young boys travel alone? > > (although as a single father, I know that's not always possible) > > Sheesh - what's this world coming to? Just looking at my post from yesterday, I shouldn't really have specified "boys", but rather it should be "children"... -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On 29 Nov 2005 at 4:55, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Sometimes I wonder about the sanity of the world at large. Sometimes > I just know, shake my head, and keep on doing what I do. Great theory so long as the insanity doesn't land you in the clink. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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So with all this pedonoia nonsense floating about, two days ago I met up with my brother for lunch in his small town (West Nyack). Went into a hippy-dippy dessert & lunch restaurant, sitting in the back room. Five-six tables. In the corner of the room are these two young women with a little girl. The little girl is wearing those eyeglasses made for young children ... they look very goofy and cute on her. I've got the little Panasonic LX1 with me, start snapping pictures. Remember: two men sitting at a table, shooting across the room. They notice me taking pictures, and start primping the little little girl to make cute faces and smile at the camera. Got one snap that looks really cute. We're about to leave ... walk over to their table, show them the photos on the LCD. They loved them. Gave 'em my card, told them to send me a note if they'd like a print. Nice folks, cute little girl. Sensible interaction. Sometimes I wonder about the sanity of the world at large. Sometimes I just know, shake my head, and keep on doing what I do. Godfrey
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- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: OT: latest pedonoia story Bob Shell wrote: Simple solution. Make parents who want to put unaccompanied children on airplanes buy three seats and put the child in the middle. Don't they have luggage racks on planes anymore? Give em wing side seats. William Robb
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In a message dated 11/28/2005 4:11:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interestingly enough, I've been reading a thread on another, normally sensical, forum about a teacher who slept with her 14 year old student and had people saying it's perfectly all right for her to do so (And bravo to the boy) while simultaneously stating that if the sexes had been reversed it would have been despicable. -Adam HER doing that is despicable. On a side note, I picked up a Mad magazine today. Haven't looked at one in years. One of the humorous articles (article? -- well, with cartoons) is about etiquette when dating one's teacher. Such as "It is not a good form to ask your school PTA to hold a bake sale to help pay your teacher's legal expenses." And "Like most people, teachers seldom enjoy mixing business with pleasure, so after a really steamy make-out session, don't ask her to give you extra credit." Mad's changed a lot since I read it many long years ago. But so has the world. Marnie aka Doe
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Malcolm Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't they have luggage racks on planes anymore? What about those boxes used for pets? Come to think of it, the Spartans were really clever people. They kept all those noisy stinking brats at some remote place in the woods until they were legal. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
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Bob Shell wrote: > Simple solution. Make parents who want to put unaccompanied > children on airplanes buy three seats and put the child in the middle. Don't they have luggage racks on planes anymore? Malcolm
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First impression: Were the hell is any one taking a child on a plane.Yes i kno a movie was made, but., fire suit on. But cripers. Is this what the world is now. If so. Back it up and let me the F' off. Dave > > On Nov 28, 2005, at 5:46 PM, David Mann wrote: > > > Heard this on the radio this morning. > > > > http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 > > > Simple solution. Make parents who want to put unaccompanied children > on airplanes buy three seats and put the child in the middle. > > Bob >
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On Nov 28, 2005, at 5:46 PM, David Mann wrote: Heard this on the radio this morning. http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 Simple solution. Make parents who want to put unaccompanied children on airplanes buy three seats and put the child in the middle. Bob
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David Mann wrote: Heard this on the radio this morning. http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 - Dave If the poor guy had had a camera around his neck, he'd probably be in jail by now! keith whaley
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Interestingly enough, I've been reading a thread on another, normally sensical, forum about a teacher who slept with her 14 year old student and had people saying it's perfectly all right for her to do so (And bravo to the boy) while simultaneously stating that if the sexes had been reversed it would have been despicable. -Adam graywolf wrote: These are the first steps for doing away with men. "Men are undesirable creatures anyway, and doing away with them entirely would be the best solution", said Ms Noseintheair. "Also it is perfectly alright for women to behave inappropriately with children, or to abuse them in anyway." "That has always been womans' right." "Men on the other hand should be euthanized at puberty." graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- David Mann wrote: Heard this on the radio this morning. http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 - Dave
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>> >Be damned If I'd get out of my seat, they can change the child to an >> >adult but I wouldn't move. The whole thing is sad :-( >> >> I'd move if it was to club or first class :-))) >> > >I don't think they'd give you an entire class, but they might upgrade you to >a teenager. Har!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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You arrive at work on time, stay for your entire shift, and have a passing acquaintance with the English language, all rare traits today... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: OT: latest pedonoia story Absolutely absurd. Making children afraid of adult men is so stupid as to be criminal. I have had, on two seperate occassions, been told by unruly parents to not talk to their children, as they don't want them talking to strangers. I, of course, practiced freedom of speech and association as outlined in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and continued interacting with them. I generally mock that which I find to be stupid. On the other side of the coin, I did threaten social services on a lady who smacked her kid across the face in front of me. That went over well... Sometimes, I wonder why I am still employed William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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> -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Be damned If I'd get out of my seat, they can change the child to an > >adult but I wouldn't move. The whole thing is sad :-( > > I'd move if it was to club or first class :-))) > I don't think they'd give you an entire class, but they might upgrade you to a teenager. Bob
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Making children afraid of anything is stupid and irresponsible. Teaching children caution, awareness, and the ability to exercise good judgment is far more important. Shel "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Absolutely absurd. Making children afraid of adult men is so stupid > as to be criminal. > > Godfrey > > On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:46 PM, David Mann wrote: > > > Heard this on the radio this morning. > > > > http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920
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On 29/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: >Be damned If I'd get out of my seat, they can change the child to an >adult but >I wouldn't move. The whole thing is sad :-( I'd move if it was to club or first class :-))) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: OT: latest pedonoia story Absolutely absurd. Making children afraid of adult men is so stupid as to be criminal. I have had, on two seperate occassions, been told by unruly parents to not talk to their children, as they don't want them talking to strangers. I, of course, practiced freedom of speech and association as outlined in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and continued interacting with them. I generally mock that which I find to be stupid. On the other side of the coin, I did threaten social services on a lady who smacked her kid across the face in front of me. That went over well... Sometimes, I wonder why I am still employed William Robb
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These are the first steps for doing away with men. "Men are undesirable creatures anyway, and doing away with them entirely would be the best solution", said Ms Noseintheair. "Also it is perfectly alright for women to behave inappropriately with children, or to abuse them in anyway." "That has always been womans' right." "Men on the other hand should be euthanized at puberty." graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- David Mann wrote: Heard this on the radio this morning. http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 - Dave
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Absolutely absurd. Making children afraid of adult men is so stupid as to be criminal. Godfrey On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:46 PM, David Mann wrote: Heard this on the radio this morning. http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 - Dave
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On 29 Nov 2005 at 11:46, David Mann wrote: > Heard this on the radio this morning. > > http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 Be damned If I'd get out of my seat, they can change the child to an adult but I wouldn't move. The whole thing is sad :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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On 29/11/05, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: >Heard this on the radio this morning. > >http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 Outrageous!! I mean, a man with a beard I can understand, but - - !! -> ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11/28/05, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heard this on the radio this morning. > > http://seven.com.au/news/worldnews/124920 > Maybe they shouldn't let young boys travel alone? (although as a single father, I know that's not always possible) Sheesh - what's this world coming to? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
