Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread Herb Chong
based on another post, your printer is an older one with dumb cartridges.
there seems to be a second ink capacity detection system.

Herb
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From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations


> Herb Chong wrote:
>
> > newer Epson printers track the amount of ink in the cartridge in the
> > cartridge itself. removing and replacing doesn't change what the
cartridge
> > says.
> >
>
> I can get it to keep printing when it is "out" by removing and replacing
the
> same cartridge - but it still won't run the nozzle check.




Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread Pieter Nagel
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 06:39:10AM -0500, Herb Chong wrote:
> newer Epson printers track the amount of ink in the cartridge in the
> cartridge itself.

Actually the cartridges don't really sense how much ink is really there.
They just have a simple counter that gets decreased proportionate to how
much ink the printer thinks its using.

Of course, Epson would rather have the cartridge show "empty" when there's
some ink left, instead of running out of ink when it shows "some ink
left". Less nasty surprises for the user that way (and more regular ink
purchases, too...)

One can buy resetters that reset the cartridges to showing "full", which
allows one to print until they are *really* empty - but one still doesn't
know when it will *really* run empty.

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Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread kwaller
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:36 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Is the Photo Stylus an Epson?
> 
> annsan

Yes, it is the Epson Stylus Photo, one of the first, if
not the first "Photo" quality printers from Epson.
Around $300 in 1996/7.
Kenneth Waller

Ken Waller

PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart. 
http://www.peoplepc.com 



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Juey Chong Ong wrote:

> On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 00:44 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele
> wrote:
>
> > I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean.  hmmm.
>
> When you put in an ink cartridge, it has to prime the cartridge by
> doing something similar to a head cleaning. That's why it makes the
> same groaning noises. I don't know if it's as thorough as a head
> cleaning (btw, if you perform several head cleanings in succession,
> each cleaning is a little more thorough --- and flushes more ink ---
> than the previous one), but it's worked for me before. You may have to
> fake more than one cartridge replacement.
>
> --jc

Thanks, Juey!  I have done repeated cleanings on occasion...
Seems to me the printer has to ask me to change the cartridge before I can
-
that is I couldnt get it into loading position unless it asked... but
that's ok, really.

ann




Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Herb Chong wrote:

> newer Epson printers track the amount of ink in the cartridge in the
> cartridge itself. removing and replacing doesn't change what the cartridge
> says.
>

I can get it to keep printing when it is "out" by removing and replacing the
same cartridge - but it still won't run the nozzle check.

ann

>
> Herb
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:44 AM
> Subject: Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations
>
> > > Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink is too low: take
> > > the cartridge out and put it back in.
> > >
> > > --jc
> >
> > I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean.  hmmm.
> >
> > a
> >
> >
> >
> >



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Remember to always shut the printer off using the
> printer on/off switch. Don't shut off any other way
> (i.e.- unplug, wall switch controlling outlet, etc)
> I have a 7 year old Photo Stylus that I have maintained
> this way and have never had to run the cleaning utility.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>

Guess they don't make em like that any more -  But if I need
to reboot it
does.  I'm one of those leave the computer on all the time
folks... unless
it misbehaves or I go away for a couple of days or more.

Is the Photo Stylus an Epson?

annsan

>
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:44:07 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
> >
> > Juey Chong Ong wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:34
> > America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dunno.  But I do get irked when the ink is low and
> > it won't let me
> > > > clean the head,
> > > > even though there really is plenty of ink in the
> > bucket .  Ionly use
> > > > Epson inks myself.
> > >
> > > Me too, and I notice the more expensive black ink
> > gets clogged more
> > > often than the color ink.
> > >
> > > Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink
> > is too low: take
> > > the cartridge out and put it back in.
> > >
> > > --jc
> >
> > I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to
> > clean.  hmmm.
> >
> > a
>
> Ken Waller
> 
> PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-18 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 00:44 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele 
wrote:

I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean.  hmmm.
When you put in an ink cartridge, it has to prime the cartridge by 
doing something similar to a head cleaning. That's why it makes the 
same groaning noises. I don't know if it's as thorough as a head 
cleaning (btw, if you perform several head cleanings in succession, 
each cleaning is a little more thorough --- and flushes more ink --- 
than the previous one), but it's worked for me before. You may have to 
fake more than one cartridge replacement.

--jc



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Juey Chong Ong wrote:

> On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 11:34 America/New_York, Ann Sanfedele
> wrote:
>
> > Dunno.  But I do get irked when the ink is low and it won't let me
> > clean the head,
> > even though there really is plenty of ink in the bucket .  Ionly use
> > Epson inks myself.
>
> Me too, and I notice the more expensive black ink gets clogged more
> often than the color ink.
>
> Here's the trick to do a head cleaning when the ink is too low: take
> the cartridge out and put it back in.
>
> --jc

I thought I tried that once and couldnt get it to clean.  hmmm.

a





Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Doug Franklin wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs.
>
> My Epson 820 does what I consider to be a very good job.  The unit
> itself was cheap, but good paper and Epson ink cartridges aren't.
> Using Epson ink on Kodak Ultra paper, I've got some prints on my wall
> that haven't shown any obvious fading over two and a half years even
> with direct sunlight for an hour or so a day.
>
> TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

I have an 820, too -- but the prints take forever to print at good
quality and
I know you cna't get the archival inks for it... it grabs too many pieces
of paper often,too.
still, it is good for the price.

annsan




Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-10 Thread wendy beard

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs.
I use an Epson 2000P. The Archival Matte and Radiant white watercolor 
papers are really nice. For speed and glossy stuff I use an Olympus P-400

Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-10 Thread John Francis
> 
> I was just saying to my hubby - it really makes me wonder how amazing the
> results would be if I really splashed out and bought something "decent"
> around the au$800 price point...

It probably wouldn't look all that different.  The difference between a
cheap printer and a more expensive unit nowadays mainly goes to things
like a direct memory card interface, the ability to handle wider paper,
or archival pigment-based inks.  The cheaper units are only 4-colour
printers, too, rather than the 6/7/8-ink high-end units. But 4-colour
printing can do quite a good job.

There is some difference in resolution, but it's probably the difference
between 600ppi and 1200ppi; you'll only see it if you have a large enough
original image file.  Even a 300ppi printer is enough for a 6MP image.

> I have been using Kodak Ultima Picture Paper

That's OK as long as you don't worry about print lifetime; if you want
prints that last as long as possible it's generally recommended that
you stay with the (admittedly more expensive) supplies from the maker
of your printer.  Inks and papers are designed to work together.



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs.

My Epson 820 does what I consider to be a very good job.  The unit
itself was cheap, but good paper and Epson ink cartridges aren't. 
Using Epson ink on Kodak Ultra paper, I've got some prints on my wall
that haven't shown any obvious fading over two and a half years even
with direct sunlight for an hour or so a day.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-10 Thread William Robb

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Subject: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations


> I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. At our
last get-
> together Christian has some nice prints, which he claimed were printed
with a
> cheap printer, I am not sure what he was implying about the quality, but
the
> images looked good.  It got me thinking I should get one of decent quality
to print
> scanned slides and for a future digital camera.

I use an Epson C-80 for the quick and dirty stuff, and a Noritsu 3101, which
prints to photographic paper for the good stuff.

William Robb



Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations

2003-12-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
I'm currently using a 7 year old Epson Stylus Photo to print 4"X6" mainly,
with the occasional 8"X10". For the more serious images, I'm using a 2000P
by Epson getting "Archival Quality" prints up to 13"X19".
Just did a gallery show with 35 images done on the 2000P and the viewers
were blow away by what could be done on a home printer.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT:Inkjet printer recommendations


> Geoff,
>
> Most ink jet printers are cheap.  It is the ink and paper
> (consumables) that are expensive.  Epson, Canon and HP could almost
> give away the printers and still make money on the consumables.  In
> fact, that is just about what they are doing.  The features you get
> for paying alot more are duty cycle (work the printer harder), better
> paper handling and possibly wider print carriage.  At this point the
> big three (Epson, Canon, HP) are all producing very good photo
> printers that you would be hard pressed to be able to really tell a
> difference between.  Most of the printers work best when you use the
> manufacturers inks and papers.  I have used all three and can't really
> say anything bad about any of them.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
>
> Wednesday, December 10, 2003, 11:47:10 AM, you wrote:
>
> mec> I was wandering what people are using for printing photographs. At
our last get-
> mec> together Christian has some nice prints, which he claimed were
printed with a
> mec> cheap printer, I am not sure what he was implying about the quality,
but the
> mec> images looked good.  It got me thinking I should get one of decent
quality to print
> mec> scanned slides and for a future digital camera.
>
> mec> Thanks,
>
> mec> Geoff
>
>
>
>