Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-04 Thread Joseph McAllister 


On Oct 1, 2010, at 15:15 , Cotty wrote:


On 1/10/10, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:


Thanks Cotty, for helping to enlighten us all.


I did no such thing!



Ok then, you "Way Cool'd" us!   :-)

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-01 Thread Cotty 
On 1/10/10, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Thanks Cotty, for helping to enlighten us all.

I did no such thing!

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-01 Thread Joseph McAllister 


On Oct 1, 2010, at 13:26 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

The copyright symbol in the center floor hides the camera and  
mirrored parabolic tripod mounted device that allows this image to  
be made in two exposures, stitched at camera level.


However, that's not the way it was done, if a bit of research is  
correct. According to the Spinatour website "thousands of photos  
were taken" over a period of three freezing nights and stitched  
together after color and light balancing.


See the article at:  http://spinatour.com/?p=35

Apparently, to enable zooming, they had to match hi-res images in  
several stages to the overall stitched image.  Also apparently the  
camera(s) were located beneath the covering copyright symbol. Those  
taking the picture were Vatican interns from Villanova.


Here is an outdoor image taken with the system, and it includes the  
camera and tripod: http://www.spinatour.com/clemsonamrl/tour.html


An interior shot, with one scan being done in each room of Clemson's  
Telecom Center.


And no link to it... http://www.spinatour.com/sys/scansource/tour.html

Took me quite some time to find the speakers, which are painted to  
blend. But I did find many places where the restoration left  
untouched, plus hooks driven into the walls, etc. Nice and rare as it  
is, the chapel is still a working place of worship to the church.


One of the articles I read today mentioned that the chapel art was  
degrading at a pace that makes those in charge feel that it must be  
closed to the public soon.


Thanks Cotty, for helping to enlighten us all.

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-01 Thread Joseph McAllister 
The copyright symbol in the center floor hides the camera and mirrored  
parabolic tripod mounted device that allows this image to be made in  
two exposures, stitched at camera level.


However, that's not the way it was done, if a bit of research is  
correct. According to the Spinatour website "thousands of photos were  
taken" over a period of three freezing nights and stitched together  
after color and light balancing.


See the article at:  http://spinatour.com/?p=35

Apparently, to enable zooming, they had to match hi-res images in  
several stages to the overall stitched image.  Also apparently the  
camera(s) were located beneath the covering copyright symbol. Those  
taking the picture were Vatican interns from Villanova.


Here is an outdoor image taken with the system, and it includes the  
camera and tripod: http://www.spinatour.com/clemsonamrl/tour.html


An interior shot, with one scan being done in each room of Clemson's  
Telecom Center.




On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:24 , Steven Desjardins wrote:


Is there a program that will stitch something like this together given
enough still?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Cotty  wrote:

On 29/9/10, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed:





Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection
agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just
publish those picture publicly on the internets 


I think the URL kinda gives it away ;-)



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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-01 Thread mike wilson 

Anthony Farr wrote:

On 1 October 2010 21:19, Anthony Farr  wrote:


For real philistinism go to the British Museum and see collection
numbers engraved prominently upon ancient treasures.




P.S.  Repatriate the Elgin Marbles aka the Parthenon Marbles.  Now.
Don't give excuses, just send back the stolen goods.


The British Museum never sells, gives away or otherwise disposes of its 
assets.  Unlike the Greek Government.


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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-01 Thread Anthony Farr 
On 1 October 2010 21:19, Anthony Farr  wrote:
>
> For real philistinism go to the British Museum and see collection
> numbers engraved prominently upon ancient treasures.
>

P.S.  Repatriate the Elgin Marbles aka the Parthenon Marbles.  Now.
Don't give excuses, just send back the stolen goods.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-10-01 Thread Anthony Farr 
On 30 September 2010 08:03, Cory Waters  wrote:
> I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers.
>  What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job?
>  "ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME?" and "YOU"RE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you
> think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill!
>  etc...
>
> Cory
>


It looks like a very sympathetic installation to my eyes.  First of
all, the speaker enclosures are so well blended into their
surroundings that they weren't easy to find.  Secondly, they're not
bracketed to the walls but suspended by wires that are almost
invisible but revealed by their shadows.  A speaker wire can be seen
above each enclosure but there are three shadows, so two of those must
be suspension wires.  Those wires go to a ledge where the mounting
points seem to be on the topside, out of sight from the floor.

For real philistinism go to the British Museum and see collection
numbers engraved prominently upon ancient treasures.

regards, Anthony

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I visited about 10 years ago, and then again this February.  The
chapel is much more colorful than before the restoration.  It is a
magnificent -- and monumental -- work of art.

Dan

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2010, at 17:03, Cory Waters wrote:
>
>> I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers.  
>> What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job?  "ARE 
>> YOU EFFING Kidding ME?" and "YOU"RE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm 
>> driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill!  etc...
>>
>
> While I understand the sentiment... in this particular case I cannot for the 
> life of me spot any speakers?? I see a railing with lights mounted on it, 
> though..
>
> When I was there in 1972/73 the whole room was filled with scaffolding as 
> they were working on the (now-finished) restoration.  It was not nearly this 
> colorful and open.  Only parts of the room were even visible.  I have to 
> imagine it is nerve-wracking to do any serious mechanical work near those 
> walls/ceilings, though!
>
>  -Charles
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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-30 Thread Charles Robinson 
On Sep 29, 2010, at 17:03, Cory Waters wrote:

> I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers.  
> What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job?  "ARE 
> YOU EFFING Kidding ME?" and "YOU"RE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm 
> driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill!  etc...
> 

While I understand the sentiment... in this particular case I cannot for the 
life of me spot any speakers?? I see a railing with lights mounted on it, 
though..

When I was there in 1972/73 the whole room was filled with scaffolding as they 
were working on the (now-finished) restoration.  It was not nearly this 
colorful and open.  Only parts of the room were even visible.  I have to 
imagine it is nerve-wracking to do any serious mechanical work near those 
walls/ceilings, though!

 -Charles

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-29 Thread steve harley 

On 2010-09-28 14:47 , Cotty wrote:

This has to be classed as totally cool.




first of all, this is totally NSFW -- sex organs all over the place

second, it sets a fairly high standard for the October PUG

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-29 Thread Paul Sorenson 
 Probably had the guy that painted the ceiling do it while he was up 
there... :-)


-p

On 9/29/2010 5:03 PM, Cory Waters wrote:
I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those 
speakers.  What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to 
do that job?  "ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME?" and "YOU"RE OUT OF YOUR 
EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that 
place with a hammer drill!  etc...


Cory


On 9/28/2010 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote:

This has to be classed as totally cool.



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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-29 Thread Stan Halpin 
I kept thinking the same thing at numerous sites in Rome that obviously had not 
been planned for electric lights, air conditioning, etc. Who did the retrofit!
We were there in 2009. The Chapel speakers are used for periodic announcements 
asking visitors to be respectful, to be quiet, and to not take photographs. The 
announcements are somewhat drowned out by the noise of camera shutters and 
people talking. But it is a marvelous place if you can ignore the noise. The 
virtual visit Cotty pointed us to is great but being there in person makes the 
lines and crowds and noise level all worthwhile.

stan

On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Cory Waters wrote:

> I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers.  
> What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job?  "ARE 
> YOU EFFING Kidding ME?" and "YOU"RE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm 
> driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill!  etc...
> 
> Cory
> 
> 
> On 9/28/2010 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote:
>> This has to be classed as totally cool.
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-29 Thread Cory Waters 
I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those 
speakers.  What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do 
that job?  "ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME?" and "YOU"RE OUT OF YOUR EFFING 
MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a 
hammer drill!  etc...


Cory


On 9/28/2010 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote:

This has to be classed as totally cool.



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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-29 Thread Steven Desjardins 
Is there a program that will stitch something like this together given
enough still?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 29/9/10, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>> 
>>
>>Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection
>>agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just
>>publish those picture publicly on the internets 
>
> I think the URL kinda gives it away ;-)
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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-29 Thread Cotty 
On 29/9/10, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed:

>> 
>
>Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection
>agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just
>publish those picture publicly on the internets 

I think the URL kinda gives it away ;-)

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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-28 Thread Walter Gilbert 

  I'm not a devout man, to say the least.  But, this is moving.

-- Walt


On 9/28/2010 3:47 PM, Cotty wrote:

This has to be classed as totally cool.



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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-28 Thread Christine Aguila 

Totally cool!  Loved the music too.  Thanks for posting.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-28 Thread Thomas Bohn 
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 22:47, Cotty  wrote:

> This has to be classed as totally cool.
> 

Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection
agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just
publish those picture publicly on the internets 


Thomas

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RE: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-28 Thread John Coyle 
That's a definite Wow!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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RE: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-28 Thread Bob W 
: OT - Sistine Chapel
> 
> This has to be classed as totally cool.
> 
> 
> 

Charlton Heston was such a great painter. Pity he gave it up for the
motorway service station business. 

Leonardo da Vinci said Charltonangelo's muscular male figures looked like a
bag of walnuts.

B


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Re: OT - Sistine Chapel

2010-09-28 Thread P N Stenquist 

Amazing. Thanks for the link.
Paul
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