Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 10:25 PM John  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXQS4S3vgGA
>
> On 1/19/2021 17:11:13, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRVUe2Ha6dg
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> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ken Waller  wrote:
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> >> A commando .
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-
> >>> From: John 
> >>> Sent: Jan 19, 2021 1:52 PM
> >>> To: pdml@pdml.net
> >>> Subject: Re: OT 1890's street photography
> >>>
> >>> On 1/19/2021 12:48:32, Bob Pdml wrote:
> >>>>> On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in
> >> most areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are
> competing
> >> for a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it.
> Amazingly,
> >> most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed
> for
> >> wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so
> I
> >> now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on
> >> Sundays.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan C
> >>>>
> >>>> So you go to church in your underwear?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If boxers wear boxer shorts and Jockey's wear jockey shorts ... what do
> >> you call
> >>> a guy who doesn't wear any shorts?
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-20 Thread Alan C 
Hang in there, Dan. I think we are all suffering from a bit of that at 
the moment.


Alan C

On 19-Jan-21 09:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Maui, most men wear shorts and sandals to church.
I was supposed to be in Maui for our annual winter visit by now, but
because of the Damn COVID pandemic and the slow roll-out of the vaccines,
we had to cancel.
I am quite depressed.

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:44 PM Alan C  wrote:


No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most
areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing
for a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it.
Amazingly, most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I
was slammed for wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple
of years ago so I now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year
round) a rest on Sundays.

Alan C

On 19-Jan-21 06:46 PM, Bill wrote:

On 1/18/2021 9:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I'm always amazed at how everyone got all dressed up in that era,
through
the 1950s.  Today, t-shirts, shorts, and sandals are accepted in
church and
at the opera, as well as on the streets.


Churches and operas and the like are desperate enough for patrons and
the money they bring with them that they have had to lower their
standards.

bill



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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread John 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXQS4S3vgGA

On 1/19/2021 17:11:13, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ken Waller  wrote:


A commando .


-Original Message-

From: John 
Sent: Jan 19, 2021 1:52 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT 1890's street photography

On 1/19/2021 12:48:32, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:

No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in

most areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing
for a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. Amazingly,
most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed for
wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so I
now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on
Sundays.


Alan C


So you go to church in your underwear?




If boxers wear boxer shorts and Jockey's wear jockey shorts ... what do

you call

a guy who doesn't wear any shorts?


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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Ken Waller 
A commando . 


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Sent: Jan 19, 2021 1:52 PM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: Re: OT 1890's street photography
>
>On 1/19/2021 12:48:32, Bob Pdml wrote:
>>> On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most 
>>> areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing for 
>>> a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. Amazingly, 
>>> most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed for 
>>> wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so I 
>>> now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on 
>>> Sundays.
>>>
>>> Alan C
>> 
>> So you go to church in your underwear?
>> 
>> 
>
>If boxers wear boxer shorts and Jockey's wear jockey shorts ... what do you 
>call 
>a guy who doesn't wear any shorts?
>
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Bill 
On Tue., Jan. 19, 2021, 12:52 p.m. John,  wrote:

>
>
> If boxers wear boxer shorts and Jockey's wear jockey shorts ... what do
> you call
> a guy who doesn't wear any shorts?
>

Scottish.

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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ken Waller  wrote:

> A commando .
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: John 
> >Sent: Jan 19, 2021 1:52 PM
> >To: pdml@pdml.net
> >Subject: Re: OT 1890's street photography
> >
> >On 1/19/2021 12:48:32, Bob Pdml wrote:
> >>> On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in
> most areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing
> for a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. Amazingly,
> most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed for
> wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so I
> now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on
> Sundays.
> >>>
> >>> Alan C
> >>
> >> So you go to church in your underwear?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >If boxers wear boxer shorts and Jockey's wear jockey shorts ... what do
> you call
> >a guy who doesn't wear any shorts?
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Maui, most men wear shorts and sandals to church.
I was supposed to be in Maui for our annual winter visit by now, but
because of the Damn COVID pandemic and the slow roll-out of the vaccines,
we had to cancel.
I am quite depressed.

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On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:44 PM Alan C  wrote:

> No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most
> areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing
> for a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it.
> Amazingly, most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I
> was slammed for wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple
> of years ago so I now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year
> round) a rest on Sundays.
>
> Alan C
>
> On 19-Jan-21 06:46 PM, Bill wrote:
> > On 1/18/2021 9:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >> I'm always amazed at how everyone got all dressed up in that era,
> >> through
> >> the 1950s.  Today, t-shirts, shorts, and sandals are accepted in
> >> church and
> >> at the opera, as well as on the streets.
> >>
> >
> > Churches and operas and the like are desperate enough for patrons and
> > the money they bring with them that they have had to lower their
> > standards.
> >
> > bill
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Alan C 

Those too!

Alan C

On 19-Jan-21 07:48 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:

No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most areas 
in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing for a 
mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. Amazingly, most 
people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed for wearing 
shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so I now give my 
shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on Sundays.

Alan C

So you go to church in your underwear?





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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread John 

On 1/19/2021 12:48:32, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:

No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most areas 
in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing for a 
mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. Amazingly, most 
people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed for wearing 
shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so I now give my 
shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on Sundays.

Alan C


So you go to church in your underwear?




If boxers wear boxer shorts and Jockey's wear jockey shorts ... what do you call 
a guy who doesn't wear any shorts?



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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Bob Pdml 
> On 19 Jan 2021, at 17:44, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most areas 
> in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing for a 
> mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. Amazingly, most 
> people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I was slammed for wearing 
> shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple of years ago so I now give my 
> shorts (which I normally wear all the year round) a rest on Sundays.
> 
> Alan C

So you go to church in your underwear?


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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Alan C 
No, I disagree. There has been a general descent to the gutter in most 
areas in the last 50 years. It almost seems as if people are competing 
for a mega-slob gold medal. Churches just had to put up with it. 
Amazingly, most people's hearts are still in the right place. FWIW, I 
was slammed for wearing shorts to Church on a hot summer's day a couple 
of years ago so I now give my shorts (which I normally wear all the year 
round) a rest on Sundays.


Alan C

On 19-Jan-21 06:46 PM, Bill wrote:

On 1/18/2021 9:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I'm always amazed at how everyone got all dressed up in that era, 
through
the 1950s.  Today, t-shirts, shorts, and sandals are accepted in 
church and

at the opera, as well as on the streets.



Churches and operas and the like are desperate enough for patrons and 
the money they bring with them that they have had to lower their 
standards.


bill




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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-19 Thread Bill 

On 1/18/2021 9:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I'm always amazed at how everyone got all dressed up in that era, through
the 1950s.  Today, t-shirts, shorts, and sandals are accepted in church and
at the opera, as well as on the streets.



Churches and operas and the like are desperate enough for patrons and 
the money they bring with them that they have had to lower their standards.


bill

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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Ken Waller 
You can have my cars when you tear those keys out of my cold dead hands - VBG.


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>That’s correct, but we can have sewers without cars and we don’t have to go 
>back to horses. We don’t have to throw all improvements overboard in order to 
>get rid of cars.
>
>> On 18 Jan 2021, at 12:24, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree: Nineteenth century photos are charming. Of course what doesn’t 
>> register is the raw sewage coursing through the streets, the mountains of 
>> horse dung and the accompanying smells and health issues. Those times make 
>> for a pretty picture but life was difficult.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fascinating. 
>>> 
>>> Whenever I see photos from that period I can’t help noticing how beautiful 
>>> the towns look without motor vehicles and all the accompanying street 
>>> furniture they bring with them, and also how people make use of the public 
>>> space which cars now dominate.
>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Jan 2021, at 08:07, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool
>>>> 
>>>> https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/
>>>> 
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I'm always amazed at how everyone got all dressed up in that era, through
the 1950s.  Today, t-shirts, shorts, and sandals are accepted in church and
at the opera, as well as on the streets.

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On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:07 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool
>
> https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Paul Stenquist 
Of course not. But cars will always be needed in more rural areas. Of course 
they can and will be electric for the most part. 

Paul

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> That’s correct, but we can have sewers without cars and we don’t have to go 
> back to horses. We don’t have to throw all improvements overboard in order to 
> get rid of cars.
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2021, at 12:24, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree: Nineteenth century photos are charming. Of course what doesn’t 
>> register is the raw sewage coursing through the streets, the mountains of 
>> horse dung and the accompanying smells and health issues. Those times make 
>> for a pretty picture but life was difficult.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
 On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fascinating. 
>>> 
>>> Whenever I see photos from that period I can’t help noticing how beautiful 
>>> the towns look without motor vehicles and all the accompanying street 
>>> furniture they bring with them, and also how people make use of the public 
>>> space which cars now dominate.
>>> 
> On 18 Jan 2021, at 08:07, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool
 
 https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/
 
 
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Alan C 
Of course the real problem is overpopulation - from 1.5b in 1890 to 7.8b 
today - a five-fold increase in 130 years. Perfect for pandemics.


Alan C

On 18-Jan-21 02:59 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

That’s correct, but we can have sewers without cars and we don’t have to go 
back to horses. We don’t have to throw all improvements overboard in order to 
get rid of cars.


On 18 Jan 2021, at 12:24, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I agree: Nineteenth century photos are charming. Of course what doesn’t 
register is the raw sewage coursing through the streets, the mountains of horse 
dung and the accompanying smells and health issues. Those times make for a 
pretty picture but life was difficult.

Paul


On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Fascinating.

Whenever I see photos from that period I can’t help noticing how beautiful the 
towns look without motor vehicles and all the accompanying street furniture 
they bring with them, and also how people make use of the public space which 
cars now dominate.


On 18 Jan 2021, at 08:07, Larry Colen  wrote:

The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool

https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/


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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Bob Pdml 
That’s correct, but we can have sewers without cars and we don’t have to go 
back to horses. We don’t have to throw all improvements overboard in order to 
get rid of cars.

> On 18 Jan 2021, at 12:24, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I agree: Nineteenth century photos are charming. Of course what doesn’t 
> register is the raw sewage coursing through the streets, the mountains of 
> horse dung and the accompanying smells and health issues. Those times make 
> for a pretty picture but life was difficult.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Fascinating. 
>> 
>> Whenever I see photos from that period I can’t help noticing how beautiful 
>> the towns look without motor vehicles and all the accompanying street 
>> furniture they bring with them, and also how people make use of the public 
>> space which cars now dominate.
>> 
 On 18 Jan 2021, at 08:07, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>>> The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool
>>> 
>>> https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/
>>> 
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Paul Stenquist 
I agree: Nineteenth century photos are charming. Of course what doesn’t 
register is the raw sewage coursing through the streets, the mountains of horse 
dung and the accompanying smells and health issues. Those times make for a 
pretty picture but life was difficult.

Paul

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:06 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Fascinating. 
> 
> Whenever I see photos from that period I can’t help noticing how beautiful 
> the towns look without motor vehicles and all the accompanying street 
> furniture they bring with them, and also how people make use of the public 
> space which cars now dominate.
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2021, at 08:07, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool
>> 
>> https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Bob Pdml 
Fascinating. 

Whenever I see photos from that period I can’t help noticing how beautiful the 
towns look without motor vehicles and all the accompanying street furniture 
they bring with them, and also how people make use of the public space which 
cars now dominate.

> On 18 Jan 2021, at 08:07, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool
> 
> https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/
> 
> 
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Re: OT 1890's street photography

2021-01-18 Thread Alan C 
Cool indeed! It seems many of the subjects acknowledged (were aware of) 
the photographer but had no idea they were being photographed. 
"Un-bustable Carl"?


On 18-Jan-21 10:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

The URL pretty much says it, but the photos are cool

https://mymodernmet.com/carl-stormer-hidden-camera-photography/


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