Re: OT Elements Q
Probably the best 2 sentence description I ever read concerning sRGB and AdobeRGB. I don't use AdobeRGB any more, as my prime reason for using Photoshop is printing on cheapo inkjets. T Rittenhouse wrote: Also, sRGB should be close to what you can get on a print. AdobeRGB loses a lot of oomph when printed. The profiles can be compared to a print and a slide respectively.
Re: OT Elements Q
Also, sRGB should be close to what you can get on a print. AdobeRGB loses a lot of oomph when printed. The profiles can be compared to a print and a slide respectively. Ciao, Graywolf -- - Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 7:28 AM Subject: Re: OT Elements Q > I don't know either. I've somehow aquired two sRGB profiles, > one from Kodak and one from HP. > > Herb Chong wrote: > > all sRGBs are supposed to be the same. this is an ISO standard color > > profile. i haven't measured to see if it really is consistent or not across > > camera models or vendors. > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03
Re: OT Elements Q
all sRGBs are supposed to be the same. this is an ISO standard color profile. i haven't measured to see if it really is consistent or not across camera models or vendors. Herb - Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: Re: OT Elements Q > PIE recommended using Kodak sRGB for my 3600. There was a readme file, not > the user documentation, that pointed this out. Your milage may vary.
Re: OT Elements Q
Gee, Corry, I had more to respond to. Part Deaux: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does PS really not support higher than 8 bit color or is there a setting I need to change? Should I care about this? Some say doing initial color correction in 16 bits minimizes chances of "posterization". I will admit that image hisotgrams look better if you use 16 bits. However, for most images, I believe you will be _very_ hard pressed to find a difference between 8- and 16-bit corrections once you print them. I've done a fair amount of experimentation to determine this. Color experts say that printing gives "about 40 shades" of any one color, and 8-bit supplies 256. That implies that you could end up with a comb-tooth histogram and still supply more information than is useful to an inkjet or press. Also, my scanner driver lists a lot of output profiles (e.g. generic monitor, Kodak sRGB display, ProPhoto RGB, 8650 4 color photographic, light GCR 360 cmyk US negative proofing). I've been using the generic monitor profile (the default) because don't know what these are. Of course, the documentation is no help PIE recommended using Kodak sRGB for my 3600. There was a readme file, not the user documentation, that pointed this out. Your milage may vary. -Lon
Re: OT Elements Q
Elements can't do 16 bit. I, too, got Elements with my PIE 3600 Primefilm scanner. The answer is to use Photoshop or some other 16-bit capable app. Don't pitch Elements, though. It has a few features that photoshop does not have. Photomerge Stitching and the quick'n'dirty Redeye reduction brush are two that come to mind. -Lon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My film scanner (Prime Film 1800 AFL) can scan in 8 bit or 14 bit color depth. I've been scanning in 8 bit mode because when I scan in 14 bit, I get a message that says something like "the image is in an unsupported color mode and will be converted" Does PS really not support higher than 8 bit color or is there a setting I need to change? Should I care about this? Also, my scanner driver lists a lot of output profiles (e.g. generic monitor, Kodak sRGB display, ProPhoto RGB, 8650 4 color photographic, light GCR 360 cmyk US negative proofing). I've been using the generic monitor profile (the default) because don't know what these are. Of course, the documentation is no help Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/2/2003
Re: OT Elements Q
PS supports 8 and 16 color depth. With 14 bit images, PS will pad it out to 16 bits. The color space I would try would be Kodak sRGB, since sRGB is pretty much standard for all but special, high end work and works well with just about all printing devices. BR --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My film scanner (Prime Film 1800 AFL) can scan in 8 bit or 14 bit color > depth. I've been scanning in 8 bit mode because when I scan in 14 bit, I > get a message that says something like "the image is in an unsupported color > mode and will be converted" > Does PS really not support higher than 8 bit color or is there a setting I > need to change? Should I care about this? > > Also, my scanner driver lists a lot of output profiles (e.g. generic > monitor, Kodak sRGB display, ProPhoto RGB, 8650 4 color photographic, light > GCR 360 cmyk US negative proofing). I've been using the generic monitor > profile (the default) because don't know what these are. Of course, the > documentation is no help > > Cory > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/2/2003 > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: OT Elements Q
this is one of the differences between Photoshop Elements and Photoshop. go to www.picto.com and download the free PDF manual on inCameraPro. it documents their software but it has a large section on general color management and color profiles. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 6:41 AM Subject: OT Elements Q > My film scanner (Prime Film 1800 AFL) can scan in 8 bit or 14 bit color > depth. I've been scanning in 8 bit mode because when I scan in 14 bit, I > get a message that says something like "the image is in an unsupported color > mode and will be converted"
