Re: OT reading Canon 5DII cards

2012-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
I talked to a friend last night with a 5DII, and he said he had no trouble 
getting his mac to read the cards.

I booted up my linux box this morning, plugged the card in, and it just 
worked.

The card is a Super Talent 600x 64GB compact flash
http://www.supertalent.com/products/sd_detail.php?series=CompactFlash%20Cards
http://www.supertalent.com/datasheets/5_116.pdf

My card reader on the Mac is an IOGEAR  GUH28R
http://www.iogear.com/product/GUH284R/

I am beginning to suspect the card reader as the problem link.

On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 Larry,
 
 A few thoughts:
 1. Either, as Boris wrote, you've got bad/bent contacts (very often with CF
 readers), or the reader is not designed to read this higher capacity
 cards.
 2. Typically, when you connect a digital camera via USB, at least
 two types of drivers have to be activated: first - for the connection,
 and second, - for the mass storage device.
 It looks like the second one is not there.
 I don't know about Canon DSLRs, but smaller, PS digital cameras
 from Canon don't work with the generic devices for that (at least
 under Windows) but require a special driver to be installed before the system
 can recognize them as a storage device. In the absence of the driver,
 only software programs that know how to work with cameras would be
 able to read the content of the camera's storage.
 Apparently, LR (which I think is capable of doing tethering with Canon
 DSLRs), knows how to talk to the camera directly.
 
 HTH,
 
 Igor
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:
 The widow of my friend who passed away from cancer last year asked me
 to teach her how to use his Canon 5DmkII.  So, first of all, I need to
 figure it out.   When I was last at his place, we plugged his CF card
 into the reader on his desktop computer, and uploaded his last files.
 I just tried doing that on my iMac, with no luck.  It wouldn't even
 recognize the card in finder.  I then found a USB cable, plugged it
 into the camera and while OSX wouldn't recognize the camera, Lightroom
 did.  So I was able to back up his last photos (and the last photos of
 him) onto my computer.
 
 The CF card in question is a 64GB card.  Do I need a special reader
 for it?  Does anyone know the reason that the camera isn't showing up
 in the finder when it is plugged in with the USB cable, even though
 lightroom can read the files?
 
 
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Re: OT reading Canon 5DII cards

2012-11-17 Thread David J Brooks
Could just be the reader. I had an old CF card reader bought back in
2001, and when i set the iMac up in 2010, it would not recognize the
reader or card. My newer reader, 2008 did fine.

Dave

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 The widow of my friend who passed away from cancer last year asked me to 
 teach her how to use his Canon 5DmkII.  So, first of all, I need to figure it 
 out.   When I was last at his place, we plugged his CF card into the reader 
 on his desktop computer, and uploaded his last files.
 I just tried doing that on my iMac, with no luck.  It wouldn't even recognize 
 the card in finder.  I then found a USB cable, plugged it into the camera and 
 while OSX wouldn't recognize the camera, Lightroom did.  So I was able to 
 back up his last photos (and the last photos of him) onto my computer.

 The CF card in question is a 64GB card.  Do I need a special reader for it?  
 Does anyone know the reason that the camera isn't showing up in the finder 
 when it is plugged in with the USB cable, even though lightroom can read the 
 files?

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Re: OT reading Canon 5DII cards

2012-11-17 Thread Anthony Farr
A quick bit of research gives me two obvious sources for your problem.
 There may be more but these should be easy to identify or eliminate.
The first is that the CF card could be a CFast card, designed for
extremely fast read/write speeds and needing a card reader cabable of
the specification.  Second is the file system of the card.  FAT32 file
system can only create or read a single file up to 4GB minus one byte
(now I know why my GoPro video files get split into multiple smaller
files for a single long shot) and if your friend shot video with his
Canon, or wanted to future-proof himself for the possibility then the
card or its filing system could be beyond FAT32 spec.

So, have you tried connecting the camera to your iMac with an
older/smaller CF card that is definitely FAT32?  If it's a card
compatibility issue, then your friend would have already catered for
the problem, but you apparently haven't.

regards, Anthony



On 17 November 2012 17:20, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 The widow of my friend who passed away from cancer last year asked me to 
 teach her how to use his Canon 5DmkII.  So, first of all, I need to figure it 
 out.   When I was last at his place, we plugged his CF card into the reader 
 on his desktop computer, and uploaded his last files.
 I just tried doing that on my iMac, with no luck.  It wouldn't even recognize 
 the card in finder.  I then found a USB cable, plugged it into the camera and 
 while OSX wouldn't recognize the camera, Lightroom did.  So I was able to 
 back up his last photos (and the last photos of him) onto my computer.

 The CF card in question is a 64GB card.  Do I need a special reader for it?  
 Does anyone know the reason that the camera isn't showing up in the finder 
 when it is plugged in with the USB cable, even though lightroom can read the 
 files?

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Re: OT reading Canon 5DII cards

2012-11-17 Thread Boris Liberman
I might want to add to that the being pin-based, the mechanical coupling 
of the card and the reader is rather fragile. Even minimal bent of one 
of the pins in the reader, and you may have incomplete interface thereby 
causing the card to malf.


On 11/17/2012 8:55 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

A quick bit of research gives me two obvious sources for your problem.
  There may be more but these should be easy to identify or eliminate.
The first is that the CF card could be a CFast card, designed for
extremely fast read/write speeds and needing a card reader cabable of
the specification.  Second is the file system of the card.  FAT32 file
system can only create or read a single file up to 4GB minus one byte
(now I know why my GoPro video files get split into multiple smaller
files for a single long shot) and if your friend shot video with his
Canon, or wanted to future-proof himself for the possibility then the
card or its filing system could be beyond FAT32 spec.

So, have you tried connecting the camera to your iMac with an
older/smaller CF card that is definitely FAT32?  If it's a card
compatibility issue, then your friend would have already catered for
the problem, but you apparently haven't.

regards, Anthony



On 17 November 2012 17:20, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

The widow of my friend who passed away from cancer last year asked me to teach 
her how to use his Canon 5DmkII.  So, first of all, I need to figure it out.   
When I was last at his place, we plugged his CF card into the reader on his 
desktop computer, and uploaded his last files.
I just tried doing that on my iMac, with no luck.  It wouldn't even recognize 
the card in finder.  I then found a USB cable, plugged it into the camera and 
while OSX wouldn't recognize the camera, Lightroom did.  So I was able to back 
up his last photos (and the last photos of him) onto my computer.

The CF card in question is a 64GB card.  Do I need a special reader for it?  
Does anyone know the reason that the camera isn't showing up in the finder when 
it is plugged in with the USB cable, even though lightroom can read the files?

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Re: OT reading Canon 5DII cards

2012-11-17 Thread Igor Roshchin

Larry,

A few thoughts:
1. Either, as Boris wrote, you've got bad/bent contacts (very often with CF
readers), or the reader is not designed to read this higher capacity
cards.
2. Typically, when you connect a digital camera via USB, at least
two types of drivers have to be activated: first - for the connection,
and second, - for the mass storage device.
It looks like the second one is not there.
I don't know about Canon DSLRs, but smaller, PS digital cameras
from Canon don't work with the generic devices for that (at least
under Windows) but require a special driver to be installed before the system
can recognize them as a storage device. In the absence of the driver,
only software programs that know how to work with cameras would be
able to read the content of the camera's storage.
Apparently, LR (which I think is capable of doing tethering with Canon
DSLRs), knows how to talk to the camera directly.

HTH,

Igor


On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:
 The widow of my friend who passed away from cancer last year asked me
 to teach her how to use his Canon 5DmkII.  So, first of all, I need to
 figure it out.   When I was last at his place, we plugged his CF card
 into the reader on his desktop computer, and uploaded his last files.
 I just tried doing that on my iMac, with no luck.  It wouldn't even
 recognize the card in finder.  I then found a USB cable, plugged it
 into the camera and while OSX wouldn't recognize the camera, Lightroom
 did.  So I was able to back up his last photos (and the last photos of
 him) onto my computer.

 The CF card in question is a 64GB card.  Do I need a special reader
 for it?  Does anyone know the reason that the camera isn't showing up
 in the finder when it is plugged in with the USB cable, even though
 lightroom can read the files?


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