Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-19 Thread Margus Männik

Hi Adam,

I bought one at 2003 for my Z-1p and continued to use it with digital 
bodies (until the DA* series arrived). It have served fine. Of course it 
has more distortion and is not as sharp as top lenses, but I've never 
said this lens is a crap, why did I had to spend my money. The other 
FAJ lenses, sorry to say, are quite crappy. First I was worried about 
the plastic mount, but after all those years it's still fully intact.


I have also tested it head-to-head against early DA18-55 kit lens (with 
K10D) and liked FAJ much more then A. In a short - better geometry and 
less vignetting.


Overall, it's surprisingly decent lens. It's much better than you would 
presume.


BR, Margus


Adam Maas wrote:

I know it's cheaply built, but I've got one offered to me at a very
reasonable price and it would make a nice wide zoom option for my
Z-1p. Sadly funds do not currently extend to a FA 20 or FA 20-35 which
would be my preferred choice.

So, how is it on film?

-Adam

  



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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/16/2010 1:32 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Optically they're supposed to be fairly good, but with a build of finest
mouse-hair.


I've one of these FAJ 18-35 lenses. Sans non-metal mount (I fail to 
characterize it in any more accurate way) the build is actually quite 
good for a lens worth $150 brand new (or thereabouts). In particular, 
comparing it with FA 24-90 which is higher up the ladder and more 
expensive, FAJ wins, sadly.


Boris


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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread mike wilson

Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:


Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
hope it helps anyway.



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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:28:25 +0100
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:
 
  Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
  hope it helps anyway.
 
 
 Mark!

C'mon, if the people on this list only answered the questions that were
asked then the list would have died off ages ago! :)

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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:48 -0500, Ira H. Bryant IV
irabry...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:28:25 +0100
 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
  Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:
  
   Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
   hope it helps anyway.
  
  
  Mark!
 
 C'mon, if the people on this list only answered the questions that were
 asked then the list would have died off ages ago! :)


Well - Let's MARK! that as well




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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread eckinator
2010/8/16 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 Optically they're supposed to be fairly good, but with a build of finest
 mouse-hair.

and that while we're at it - MARK

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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread mike wilson

Brian Walters wrote:


On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:48 -0500, Ira H. Bryant IV
irabry...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:28:25 +0100
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:



Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:



Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
hope it helps anyway.



Mark!


C'mon, if the people on this list only answered the questions that were
asked then the list would have died off ages ago! :)




Well - Let's MARK! that as well


I hope you're not going to take that lying down, Ira

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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
FYI, the FA20-35 works great with digital.  The range may not be as
interesting as it was with film, but image quality is wonderful.  it's
also surprisingly light.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:56 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Brian Walters wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:48 -0500, Ira H. Bryant IV
 irabry...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:28:25 +0100
 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:


 Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:


 Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
 hope it helps anyway.


 Mark!

 C'mon, if the people on this list only answered the questions that were
 asked then the list would have died off ages ago! :)



 Well - Let's MARK! that as well

 I hope you're not going to take that lying down, Ira

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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-17 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV

I don't know about the FAJ 18-35, but I was in the same position as you
and went for the Samyang manual focus 19-35. I got the Phoenix-branded
one, but it comes in many guises. I didn't use it for a long time
because I really didn't have confidence in it, but I pulled it out the
other day and thought it did pretty well. Much better than I expected.

I used it on my ME Super with black and white film. Unfortunately, I
haven't scanned any of the negatives or prints, so I can't show an
example. I believe there is an auto-focus version, but I have read it
is not as good.

Funnily enough, just today I was looking at the FA 20-35 on the Keh
website. I would really like to have that lens, but for me it is a
film-specific lens and I don't use film enough to justify the cost to
myself. I don't regret the Samyang but the 20-35 has a good reputation.

Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
hope it helps anyway.

Ira


On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:48:47 -0400
Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:

 I know it's cheaply built, but I've got one offered to me at a very
 reasonable price and it would make a nice wide zoom option for my
 Z-1p. Sadly funds do not currently extend to a FA 20 or FA 20-35 which
 would be my preferred choice.
 
 So, how is it on film?
 
 -Adam
 



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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-17 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV

I apologize, the Phoenix 19-35 is made by Cosina and not Samyang. I get
my third-party sell-to-anyone OEMs confused sometimes. Anyway, the
truth is probably a plus, not a minus.  If I had my choice of
Cosina-made lenses I would be a very happy man.

Ira



On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:14:16 -0500
Ira H. Bryant IV irabry...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 
 I don't know about the FAJ 18-35, but I was in the same position as
 you and went for the Samyang manual focus 19-35. I got the
 Phoenix-branded one, but it comes in many guises. I didn't use it for
 a long time because I really didn't have confidence in it, but I
 pulled it out the other day and thought it did pretty well. Much
 better than I expected.
 
 I used it on my ME Super with black and white film. Unfortunately, I
 haven't scanned any of the negatives or prints, so I can't show an
 example. I believe there is an auto-focus version, but I have read it
 is not as good.
 
 Funnily enough, just today I was looking at the FA 20-35 on the Keh
 website. I would really like to have that lens, but for me it is a
 film-specific lens and I don't use film enough to justify the cost to
 myself. I don't regret the Samyang but the 20-35 has a good
 reputation.
 
 Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
 hope it helps anyway.
 
 Ira
 
 
 On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:48:47 -0400
 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 
  I know it's cheaply built, but I've got one offered to me at a very
  reasonable price and it would make a nice wide zoom option for my
  Z-1p. Sadly funds do not currently extend to a FA 20 or FA 20-35
  which would be my preferred choice.
  
  So, how is it on film?
  
  -Adam
  
 
 
 



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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling

 On 8/17/2010 9:48 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

I know it's cheaply built, but I've got one offered to me at a very
reasonable price and it would make a nice wide zoom option for my
Z-1p. Sadly funds do not currently extend to a FA 20 or FA 20-35 which
would be my preferred choice.

So, how is it on film?

-Adam

Optically they're supposed to be fairly good, but with a build of finest 
mouse-hair.


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