Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
On Nov 29, 2005, at 16:18, Powell Hargrave wrote: Didn't know you were a twin. I thought that maybe the URL for my website might have given that fact away! On the subject of Fisheyes, though - everyone loves the Zenitar so much that I feel I'm missing something. If it were worth more, I'd sell the darned thing and get something more interesting. Trouble is, at a value of, what, $75 used (?) it's not worth the bother of selling/swapping it! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
Didn't know you were a twin. At 10:19 AM 29/11/2005 , you wrote: > >On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:56, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> Hi! >> >>> There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I >>> thought I >>> would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. >>> It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. >>> It is >>> really wide and bendy on full frame! >>> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm >> > >I missed the original message, sorry. I like the 3rd image best, >just due to the severe distortion! > >IMO, the "bendiness" of the images makes the Zenitar a lot more "fun" >on a full-frame camera than it is on the DS. I find the Zenitar to >be a little boring when it's on my DS, which is a shame. :-( > >If I may share my own enjoyment of the way the Zenitar behaves on an >older camera, I have an image here from way back in 1997 that was >done by simply holding the camera (ME Super) up over my head. You >can just see me in the bottom of the frame. > >http://charles.robinsontwins.org/twinsdays_97/Fish_grp.JPG > >Notice anything unusual about the crowd? > > -Charles > >-- >Charles Robinson >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Minneapolis, MN >http://charles.robinsontwins.org >
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
At 09:56 AM 29/11/2005 , you wrote: >> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm > >Powell, the third image made me smile a little... Not only Zenitar >warped your greenhouse but it also painted its left wall (is it a wall) >in this turquoise kind of color. > >Boris Thanks Boris. The north wall and the ends are covered with an old blue swimming pool cover. It was free and lasts well. Powell
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:56, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I thought I would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It is really wide and bendy on full frame! http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm I missed the original message, sorry. I like the 3rd image best, just due to the severe distortion! IMO, the "bendiness" of the images makes the Zenitar a lot more "fun" on a full-frame camera than it is on the DS. I find the Zenitar to be a little boring when it's on my DS, which is a shame. :-( If I may share my own enjoyment of the way the Zenitar behaves on an older camera, I have an image here from way back in 1997 that was done by simply holding the camera (ME Super) up over my head. You can just see me in the bottom of the frame. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/twinsdays_97/Fish_grp.JPG Notice anything unusual about the crowd? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
Hi! There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I thought I would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It is really wide and bendy on full frame! http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm Powell, the third image made me smile a little... Not only Zenitar warped your greenhouse but it also painted its left wall (is it a wall) in this turquoise kind of color. Strangely enough the second image does not look very fish-eye-ish... It is evidently very wide, but not obviously warped. And the first one, to my eyes is the best one... The unfolded leave on the foreground makes it for me. If you ask me why I commented in the opposite order, I would have no answer... Boris
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
At 01:14 PM 28/11/2005 , frank wrote: > >On 11/25/05, Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I thought I >> would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. >> >> It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It is >> really wide and bendy on full frame! >> >> http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm > >Fisheyes are so much fun! Fine use of yours there, Powell. Thanks frank. How's the broken wing doing? Powell
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
On 11/25/05, Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I thought I > would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. > > It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It is > really wide and bendy on full frame! > > http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm Fisheyes are so much fun! Fine use of yours there, Powell. #'s 1 and 3 are my faves. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
At 01:33 AM 28/11/2005 , you wrote: > >Uh! > >I LIKE the maple leaf one, the second one it's nice too (if it wasn't >for that ladder...) Ya. I should have moved the ladder. >...and... what a HUGE greenhouse you have! lol > >where were them taken? Just south of Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, BC, Canada >bye, >danilo http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm Powell
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
Uh! I LIKE the maple leaf one, the second one it's nice too (if it wasn't for that ladder...) ...and... what a HUGE greenhouse you have! lol where were them taken? bye, danilo
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
Thanks for posting these pictures Powell. I just ordered one from the link Godfrey supplied. I like all three shots,especially the first two. Nice fall day pictures. Dave Brooks > --- Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I > > thought I > > would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. > > > > It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It > > is > > really wide and bendy on full frame! > > > > http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm > > > > Powell > > > > > > > > > __ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
Pretty neat! Yes, I imagine on 24x36 it is a bit wider and more curvy than I'd find very useful most of the time. I like the rendering on 16x24, haven't bothered to do any rectilinear correction with it yet. Godfrey On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Powell Hargrave wrote: There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I thought I would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It is really wide and bendy on full frame! http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm Powell
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun
I realize you put this up to demonstrate the Zenitar, but I'm taken with the scene. A rich, extremely well composed image. Jack --- Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I > thought I > would put up a few shots take with the ZX-5n. > > It is much easier to use this lens on the DS with the 1.5 crop. It > is > really wide and bendy on full frame! > > http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image9.htm > > Powell > > __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 3--Farmers' Market
Thanks, Frank! It =is= really fun to use. Shot many frames with it yesterday too at a run/walk fundraiser. I'm getting those shots on CD, so maybe there will be some quick posts. Rick --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/24/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The first Saturday I had the F17-28 lens, I took > it > > with me on my weekly trip to the farmers' market > in a > > nearby park. This shot lost a good deal of its > "zip" > > in scanning, but I like the fisheye perspective. > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720439 > > > > PZ-1p, F17-28, Elite Chrome 100, goodness knows > what > > the exposure was. > > > > Rick > > > > 1) Clearly, you're getting the hang of this lens; > and, > > 2) Clearly, you're having too much fun with it! > > > Terrific shot, Rick. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 3--Farmers' Market
On 9/24/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first Saturday I had the F17-28 lens, I took it > with me on my weekly trip to the farmers' market in a > nearby park. This shot lost a good deal of its "zip" > in scanning, but I like the fisheye perspective. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720439 > > PZ-1p, F17-28, Elite Chrome 100, goodness knows what > the exposure was. > > Rick > 1) Clearly, you're getting the hang of this lens; and, 2) Clearly, you're having too much fun with it! Terrific shot, Rick. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
Hi! well, how about that! If you don't look at the details of the image, what do you see? An eye! Very cool. Ditto! The cat's eye. Grand! Boris
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
I like the way the rows of seats move from light to shadow. Interesting shot. Very nice. Paul On Sep 19, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Jon M wrote: Would that happen to be the Tanglewood near Clemmonsville, NC? --- Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This was taken about an hour before concert time. Yeah, the contrast is high. I like what the fisheye does to the rows of seats, though. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720445 PZ-1p, F 17-28, f/8 @ 1/60 (IIRC), Elite Chrome 100. Rick __ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
Nope. That's the Tanglewood in Lenox, Massachusetts. --- Jon M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would that happen to be the Tanglewood near > Clemmonsville, NC? > > > --- Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This was taken about an hour before concert time. > > Yeah, the contrast is high. I like what the > fisheye > > does to the rows of seats, though. > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720445 > > > > PZ-1p, F 17-28, f/8 @ 1/60 (IIRC), Elite Chrome > 100. > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Yahoo! for Good > > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
Would that happen to be the Tanglewood near Clemmonsville, NC? --- Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was taken about an hour before concert time. > Yeah, the contrast is high. I like what the fisheye > does to the rows of seats, though. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720445 > > PZ-1p, F 17-28, f/8 @ 1/60 (IIRC), Elite Chrome 100. > > Rick > > > > > > __ > > Yahoo! for Good > Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
Wow. You clearly have a more vivid imagination than I do! Rick --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, how about that! If you don't look at the > details of the image, > what do you see? An eye! Very cool. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Monday, September 19, 2005, 8:49:28 AM, you wrote: > > RW> This was taken about an hour before concert > time. > RW> Yeah, the contrast is high. I like what the > fisheye > RW> does to the rows of seats, though. > > RW> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720445 > > RW> PZ-1p, F 17-28, f/8 @ 1/60 (IIRC), Elite Chrome > 100. > > RW> Rick > > > > > > RW> > __ > > RW> Yahoo! for Good > RW> Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > RW> http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Thanks for your kind words about both shots, Frank. My wife was rather skeptical about the fisheye, but even she is coming around! Rick --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/18/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay, if you insist, it's here: > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 > > > > Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! > > Perfect > > I love it - emotion, motion blur - what more does a > pic need? > > Oh yeah, great composition, too. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
On 9/18/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, if you insist, it's here: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 > > Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! Perfect I love it - emotion, motion blur - what more does a pic need? Oh yeah, great composition, too. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
On 9/19/05, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was taken about an hour before concert time. > Yeah, the contrast is high. I like what the fisheye > does to the rows of seats, though. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720445 > > PZ-1p, F 17-28, f/8 @ 1/60 (IIRC), Elite Chrome 100. > > Rick Fisheyes are so much fun!!! I love this one - "bending reality" in a very aesthetically pleasing way. The problem I find with mine is using it in a way that's not cliched. You've obviously figured out new and fresh approaches with yours, as this photo evidences. Well done. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 2: Tanglewood Music Shed
well, how about that! If you don't look at the details of the image, what do you see? An eye! Very cool. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, September 19, 2005, 8:49:28 AM, you wrote: RW> This was taken about an hour before concert time. RW> Yeah, the contrast is high. I like what the fisheye RW> does to the rows of seats, though. RW> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720445 RW> PZ-1p, F 17-28, f/8 @ 1/60 (IIRC), Elite Chrome 100. RW> Rick RW> __ RW> Yahoo! for Good RW> Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. RW> http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Thanks, Bruce. That lens is lots of fun. More pix coming. Rick --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Rick, > > Very fun pic! You have given an unusual perspective > that makes you > really look at the image. > > -- > Bruce > > > Sunday, September 18, 2005, 10:42:28 AM, you wrote: > > RW> Okay, if you insist, it's here: > > RW> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 > > RW> Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! > > RW> Rick > > > RW> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> I like the clean whites and total blacks... > >> > >> Rick Womer wrote: > >> > >> >I had so much fun with Amita's 15mm Sigma during > >> the > >> >Philly PDML gathering that I went and bought a > >> Pentax > >> >F 17-28 fisheye zoom from Bruce Dayton a couple > of > >> >weeks later. Slowly, I'm getting some of my > summer > >> >shots sorted and scanned. > >> > > >> >This picture is of a good friend and her > daughter, > >> >playing on a picnic blanket at Tanglewood (the > >> summer > >> >home of the Boston Symphony in western > >> Massachusetts). > >> > I used my PZ-1p and the 17-28, handheld with > Elite > >> >Chrome 100. Daylight was fading, but I did not > >> record > >> >the exposure settings. I scanned the image and > >> >cropped a few distracting elements (such as my > >> feet!) > >> >from the edges of the frame. I like the > >> perspective > >> >the fisheye provides. > >> > > >> >Comments appreciated. > >> > > >> >Rick > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >__ > >> >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > >> >http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> When you're worried or in doubt, > >>Run in circles, (scream and shout). > >> > >> > > > RW> > __ > RW> Do You Yahoo!? > RW> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > RW> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Boris, Thanks for your comments. Yes, I used the pop-up flash, at -1.5 stops, which is why there is still motion blur in the girl's feet and the mother's arms. Rick --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for the shot... I think lack of detail on > mother's shirt is rather > distracting. However the rest is excellent... Give a > bit of a mild > vertigo and puts a gentle chuckle on viewer's face. > > Were you using a built-in flash? > > Boris > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Hi! Okay, if you insist, it's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! Rick, I am merely 34 (as of 3 days ago :-) ), but I can totally relate to what you say... As for the shot... I think lack of detail on mother's shirt is rather distracting. However the rest is excellent... Give a bit of a mild vertigo and puts a gentle chuckle on viewer's face. Were you using a built-in flash? Boris
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Hello Rick, Very fun pic! You have given an unusual perspective that makes you really look at the image. -- Bruce Sunday, September 18, 2005, 10:42:28 AM, you wrote: RW> Okay, if you insist, it's here: RW> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 RW> Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! RW> Rick RW> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I like the clean whites and total blacks... >> >> Rick Womer wrote: >> >> >I had so much fun with Amita's 15mm Sigma during >> the >> >Philly PDML gathering that I went and bought a >> Pentax >> >F 17-28 fisheye zoom from Bruce Dayton a couple of >> >weeks later. Slowly, I'm getting some of my summer >> >shots sorted and scanned. >> > >> >This picture is of a good friend and her daughter, >> >playing on a picnic blanket at Tanglewood (the >> summer >> >home of the Boston Symphony in western >> Massachusetts). >> > I used my PZ-1p and the 17-28, handheld with Elite >> >Chrome 100. Daylight was fading, but I did not >> record >> >the exposure settings. I scanned the image and >> >cropped a few distracting elements (such as my >> feet!) >> >from the edges of the frame. I like the >> perspective >> >the fisheye provides. >> > >> >Comments appreciated. >> > >> >Rick >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >__ >> >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >> >http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> When you're worried or in doubt, >> Run in circles, (scream and shout). >> >> RW> __ RW> Do You Yahoo!? RW> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around RW> http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Okay, if you insist, it's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! Rick --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the clean whites and total blacks... > > Rick Womer wrote: > > >I had so much fun with Amita's 15mm Sigma during > the > >Philly PDML gathering that I went and bought a > Pentax > >F 17-28 fisheye zoom from Bruce Dayton a couple of > >weeks later. Slowly, I'm getting some of my summer > >shots sorted and scanned. > > > >This picture is of a good friend and her daughter, > >playing on a picnic blanket at Tanglewood (the > summer > >home of the Boston Symphony in western > Massachusetts). > > I used my PZ-1p and the 17-28, handheld with Elite > >Chrome 100. Daylight was fading, but I did not > record > >the exposure settings. I scanned the image and > >cropped a few distracting elements (such as my > feet!) > >from the edges of the frame. I like the > perspective > >the fisheye provides. > > > >Comments appreciated. > > > >Rick > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter: the URL!
Okay, if you insist, it's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720442 Geez, I hate these "senior moments"! Rick --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the clean whites and total blacks... > > Rick Womer wrote: > > >I had so much fun with Amita's 15mm Sigma during > the > >Philly PDML gathering that I went and bought a > Pentax > >F 17-28 fisheye zoom from Bruce Dayton a couple of > >weeks later. Slowly, I'm getting some of my summer > >shots sorted and scanned. > > > >This picture is of a good friend and her daughter, > >playing on a picnic blanket at Tanglewood (the > summer > >home of the Boston Symphony in western > Massachusetts). > > I used my PZ-1p and the 17-28, handheld with Elite > >Chrome 100. Daylight was fading, but I did not > record > >the exposure settings. I scanned the image and > >cropped a few distracting elements (such as my > feet!) > >from the edges of the frame. I like the > perspective > >the fisheye provides. > > > >Comments appreciated. > > > >Rick > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun--Mother and daughter
I like the clean whites and total blacks... Rick Womer wrote: I had so much fun with Amita's 15mm Sigma during the Philly PDML gathering that I went and bought a Pentax F 17-28 fisheye zoom from Bruce Dayton a couple of weeks later. Slowly, I'm getting some of my summer shots sorted and scanned. This picture is of a good friend and her daughter, playing on a picnic blanket at Tanglewood (the summer home of the Boston Symphony in western Massachusetts). I used my PZ-1p and the 17-28, handheld with Elite Chrome 100. Daylight was fading, but I did not record the exposure settings. I scanned the image and cropped a few distracting elements (such as my feet!) from the edges of the frame. I like the perspective the fisheye provides. Comments appreciated. Rick __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
