Re: PESO: From off the wagon
Thanks Bruce. Yes, I had fun. But I'm glad I don't have to do it every day:-). Paul On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Some fun shots, to be sure. I like the first and third best. Looks like there is still some life left in film. -- Bruce Monday, October 2, 2006, 7:07:18 PM, you wrote: PS I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 PS at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf PS Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the PS fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on PS the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I PS had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look PS great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would PS want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 PS flatbed. It's marginal. PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
The shots have some blown highlights because there are some peripheral areas in direct sun, for example in the background of the pic with the pumpkins. But the main light is provided by the flash and softbox, so the exposure had to be based on those. Any film or digital would show some blown highlights here. Paul On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, Thanks for the look. Generally crisp and well composed, but contrast seems a problem. Maybe it's due to the scanner you want to replace or the VC version of Portra. Hot emulsions has blown highlights for me to the point where I usually increased the ISO by about a third of a stop. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
Paul wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg Hmm. Sorry Paul, but these all look overly bright and too flat on my screen. There seems little depth/dimensionality to them. I'm sure it's simply rendering issues. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes, I fiddled with them for quite a while. There's just not much in the scan. I had to push them hard to get rid of an overall muddiness. I might be able to tweak the scan adjustments and get something better, but it may just be due to the limited range of the flatbed. Paul On Oct 3, 2006, at 6:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Paul wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg Hmm. Sorry Paul, but these all look overly bright and too flat on my screen. There seems little depth/dimensionality to them. I'm sure it's simply rendering issues. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
There are obvious areas where highlights could not be controlled, you're absolutely right. I was looking more at skin tones and hair, on the guitarist, for example. I found the high contrast Kodak UC highlights very difficult to control. I also, wanted to acknowledge the problem you may have been referencing with your scanner comment. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shots have some blown highlights because there are some peripheral areas in direct sun, for example in the background of the pic with the pumpkins. But the main light is provided by the flash and softbox, so the exposure had to be based on those. Any film or digital would show some blown highlights here. Paul On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, Thanks for the look. Generally crisp and well composed, but contrast seems a problem. Maybe it's due to the scanner you want to replace or the VC version of Portra. Hot emulsions has blown highlights for me to the point where I usually increased the ISO by about a third of a stop. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
Yes, I see what you're saying. Those highlights are probably the result of my pushing the curve to eliminate muddiness. I'd love to have a Nikon Coolscan 8000. They're much less expensive than they once were, but I just don't shoot enough film to justify it. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are obvious areas where highlights could not be controlled, you're absolutely right. I was looking more at skin tones and hair, on the guitarist, for example. I found the high contrast Kodak UC highlights very difficult to control. I also, wanted to acknowledge the problem you may have been referencing with your scanner comment. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shots have some blown highlights because there are some peripheral areas in direct sun, for example in the background of the pic with the pumpkins. But the main light is provided by the flash and softbox, so the exposure had to be based on those. Any film or digital would show some blown highlights here. Paul On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, Thanks for the look. Generally crisp and well composed, but contrast seems a problem. Maybe it's due to the scanner you want to replace or the VC version of Portra. Hot emulsions has blown highlights for me to the point where I usually increased the ISO by about a third of a stop. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
On 10/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I see what you're saying. Those highlights are probably the result of my pushing the curve to eliminate muddiness. I'd love to have a Nikon Coolscan 8000. They're much less expensive than they once were, but I just don't shoot enough film to justify it. Paul You could buy one for me. ;) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'll soon, hopefully, be in a position to tell myself the same thing. Have fantasy shopped for a scanner for quite awhile. That pressure has recently lifted. WHEW!! Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I see what you're saying. Those highlights are probably the result of my pushing the curve to eliminate muddiness. I'd love to have a Nikon Coolscan 8000. They're much less expensive than they once were, but I just don't shoot enough film to justify it. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are obvious areas where highlights could not be controlled, you're absolutely right. I was looking more at skin tones and hair, on the guitarist, for example. I found the high contrast Kodak UC highlights very difficult to control. I also, wanted to acknowledge the problem you may have been referencing with your scanner comment. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shots have some blown highlights because there are some peripheral areas in direct sun, for example in the background of the pic with the pumpkins. But the main light is provided by the flash and softbox, so the exposure had to be based on those. Any film or digital would show some blown highlights here. Paul On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, Thanks for the look. Generally crisp and well composed, but contrast seems a problem. Maybe it's due to the scanner you want to replace or the VC version of Portra. Hot emulsions has blown highlights for me to the point where I usually increased the ISO by about a third of a stop. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
On 10/2/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg They certainly have a look to them! Nice shots, Paul. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
Thanks Frank. They leave something to be desired both in terms of subject and rendering, but I had some fun with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/2/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg They certainly have a look to them! Nice shots, Paul. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/2/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg Very nice Paul. I've always liked the look of the Kodak VC films. Unfortunately, I think I used up all of my stock of 160VC and 400VC in 120 rolls. Time to hunt down some on ebay, I think... -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Mat. It's definitely a different look than digital. I had to readjust my thinking when processing these. And of course scanning negs isn't exactly a piece of cake, especially since I haven't done that for over two years. Paul On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Mat Maessen wrote: On 10/2/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg Very nice Paul. I've always liked the look of the Kodak VC films. Unfortunately, I think I used up all of my stock of 160VC and 400VC in 120 rolls. Time to hunt down some on ebay, I think... -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/2/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course scanning negs isn't exactly a piece of cake, especially since I haven't done that for over two years. I feel your pain. I could never get the color balance quite right. I've had better luck with slide film on the scanner. But still, no slide film I've found quite looks like the VC films. A couple of friends of mine are getting married in November. I think I should stock up, and see if I can find the flash bracket for the Yashicamat... -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Some fun shots, to be sure. I like the first and third best. Looks like there is still some life left in film. -- Bruce Monday, October 2, 2006, 7:07:18 PM, you wrote: PS I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 PS at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf PS Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the PS fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on PS the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I PS had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look PS great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would PS want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 PS flatbed. It's marginal. PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From off the wagon
Paul, Thanks for the look. Generally crisp and well composed, but contrast seems a problem. Maybe it's due to the scanner you want to replace or the VC version of Portra. Hot emulsions has blown highlights for me to the point where I usually increased the ISO by about a third of a stop. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did as I had threatened, and shot a couple of rolls of Portra VC 160 at the local Farmer's Market. I used the 6x7 with the 165/4 Leaf Shutter lens and the AF 400T flash with a Lumiquest Softbox. I like the fill from the softbox, particularly in the shot of the kids sitting on the wall with the hard midday crosslight. Nothing special here, but I had a good time, and I like the performance of that lens. The negs look great under a loupe. If I were to continue with medium format, I would want a better film scanner. I'm still using the Epson Photo 3200 flatbed. It's marginal. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027776size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027772 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5027701size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
