Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Cotty]

On 10/4/10, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So  I must disagree (now and then,
>Cotters :-) )

Of course you're allowed ;-)

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[ann sanfedele]

Cotty wrote:




On 10/4/10, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Really?  Gosh  - I love the first one of this diner but  in this one I
see no detail in the foreground and
think it's much too wide a shot...  Hey wat do these Brits know about
diners anyway (ann ducks)
   



Not a great deal, but we do like a fried breakfast now and again. Well,
now anyway.



Got the -wish I could be at GFM blues do ya?)


I like it because of the space surrounding it, which creates a frame
within a frame, if you will. The fact that nothing else appears to be
adjacent gives me a sense that things have moved on and the diner has
been left behind, forlorn. For me a photograph is a 'story' in a
nutshell. The photographer tells that story in how the photograph is
presented. A closer crop would tell me a different story - as it is, I
like the story I'm getting from this one :-)

 


Cheers,
 Cotty

I agree about a photo being a story in a nutshell  - I think the first 
story tells it as well
and is more interesting to look at.  So  I must disagree (now and then, 
Cotters :-) )


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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Bob.

Dan M

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> >>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938
>> >>>
>> >>>Dan M
>> >>>
>> >>That one really works for me - superb.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Seconded.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Cheers,
>> >  Cotty
>> >
>>
>> Really?  Gosh  - I love the first one of this diner but  in
>> this one I see no detail in the foreground and think it's
>> much too wide a shot...  Hey wat do these Brits know about
>> diners anyway (ann ducks)
>>
>
> I second Cotty's reply.
>
> What do we know about diners? We invented them!
> 
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RE: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Bob W]

> >>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938
> >>>
> >>>Dan M
> >>>
> >>That one really works for me - superb.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Seconded.
> >
> >--
> >Cheers,
> >  Cotty
> >
> 
> Really?  Gosh  - I love the first one of this diner but  in 
> this one I see no detail in the foreground and think it's 
> much too wide a shot...  Hey wat do these Brits know about 
> diners anyway (ann ducks)
> 

I second Cotty's reply.

What do we know about diners? We invented them!




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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Cotty for looking and for those interesting comments.

I see what you mean, and understand what you are saying.  Personally,
I like the first one because it has more detail.  I especially tried
to bring out the remaining hints of aqua color in the sign and in the
siding.  To me, these are reminders that this place once has
pretensions of style and fashion (perhaps art deco?) that have not
only vanished, but become obsolete.

That is why I plan to pair it with Loukas' Diner, with all its color
and glitz.  The Whitehouse
Diner once had that sort of ability to catch the eye and draw in the
passing travelers, but its day has passed, and it decays forlornly
alongside its crumbling parking lot and bare surroundings.

Dan M

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> 
>
> On 10/4/10, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Really?  Gosh  - I love the first one of this diner but  in this one I
>>see no detail in the foreground and
>>think it's much too wide a shot...  Hey wat do these Brits know about
>>diners anyway (ann ducks)
>
> Not a great deal, but we do like a fried breakfast now and again. Well,
> now anyway.
>
> I like it because of the space surrounding it, which creates a frame
> within a frame, if you will. The fact that nothing else appears to be
> adjacent gives me a sense that things have moved on and the diner has
> been left behind, forlorn. For me a photograph is a 'story' in a
> nutshell. The photographer tells that story in how the photograph is
> presented. A closer crop would tell me a different story - as it is, I
> like the story I'm getting from this one :-)
>
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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On 10/4/10, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Really?  Gosh  - I love the first one of this diner but  in this one I
>see no detail in the foreground and
>think it's much too wide a shot...  Hey wat do these Brits know about
>diners anyway (ann ducks)

Not a great deal, but we do like a fried breakfast now and again. Well,
now anyway.

I like it because of the space surrounding it, which creates a frame
within a frame, if you will. The fact that nothing else appears to be
adjacent gives me a sense that things have moved on and the diner has
been left behind, forlorn. For me a photograph is a 'story' in a
nutshell. The photographer tells that story in how the photograph is
presented. A closer crop would tell me a different story - as it is, I
like the story I'm getting from this one :-)



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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[ann sanfedele]

Cotty wrote:


On 8/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938

Dan M


That one really works for me - superb.
   



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Really?  Gosh  - I love the first one of this diner but  in this one I 
see no detail in the foreground and
think it's much too wide a shot...  Hey wat do these Brits know about 
diners anyway (ann ducks)



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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
>
> Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.
>

Terrific (if sad) shot.  A real piece of vanishing Americana.

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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Thanks, Coty

Dan

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 8/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938
>>>
>>> Dan M
>>>
>>
>>That one really works for me - superb.
>
> Seconded.
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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On 8/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938
>>
>> Dan M
>>
>
>That one really works for me - superb.

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Bob!

Dan M
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments.
>>
>> Someone suggested a wider shot, to show the isolation and desolation.
>> I tried that yesterday.  There were some "bleaker" images I
>> got, but I like this one because of the telephone lines and
>> the clouds:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938
>>
>> Dan M
>>
>
> That one really works for me - superb.
>
> Bob
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RE: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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> Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments.
> 
> Someone suggested a wider shot, to show the isolation and desolation.
> I tried that yesterday.  There were some "bleaker" images I 
> got, but I like this one because of the telephone lines and 
> the clouds:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938
> 
> Dan M
> 

That one really works for me - superb.

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.

I don't recall the Tunnel Diner.  Was it by one of the tunnels to NYC?
 which one?

I did see the Bader book, several years ago.  It made a big impression
on me.  I think I should see if I can find a copy to purchase, but
perhaps I should wait until I have put together my little group of
images of local diners;  otherwise, I will either be tempted to
imitate his work, or become so depressed at the impossibility of
coming anywhere close to it that I will just give up.

As I said before, my ambitions are very limited, and and I am not
aiming at something of the level of Bader's book or your fine
collection of images.

Thanks again for your encouragement and advice.

Dan M

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:46 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Dan-
> anther  Jersey DIner that bit the dust  is the Tunnel Diner... I never got a
> decent shot of it - it
> was there one day and gone the next and the parking area got fenced in
> quickly...
>
> I love the light in your shot... just right - great colors... etc
>
> I presume you have (or have seen ) John Bader's wonderful book of diners
> from about um 30 or 40 years ago.  If not, you'd enjoy it  I'm pretty sure
> it is still in print too.
>
> ann
>
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ann and Bruce.
>>
>> Yes, this is a real Jersey diner.  It is located on the Eastbound side
>> of US 22 in Whitehouse (Readington Township), New Jersey.  It is only
>> a few miles from my house.
>>
>> This is a part of a series of Jersey diners I am working on.  There is
>> another partially abandoned diner just east of this one, part of which
>> is now functioning as a bar.  (I will post an image of that as a PESO
>> shortly, then I will try a GESO).  A bit further yet to the east is
>> the shiny new diner at when my Rotary Club meets.  I will try to get a
>> decent image of that tomorrow morning.
>>
>> I love diners, and they are so much a part of New Jersey's traditional
>> lifestyle that I hate to see so many disappear or, like this one,
>> become abandoned.
>>
>> Dan M
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Bruce Walker 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>

 An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681

 Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.

 Dan M

>>>
>>> I quite like that shot, Dan.
>>>
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments.

Someone suggested a wider shot, to show the isolation and desolation.
I tried that yesterday.  There were some "bleaker" images I got, but I
like this one because of the telephone lines and the clouds:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891938

Dan M

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> I like it.  That is a subject just begging for a long shooting session in B&W.
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>> Subject: PESO: Whitehouse Diner
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:48 PM
>> An abandoned diner on the highway
>> near my home:
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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I like it.  That is a subject just begging for a long shooting session in B&W.

Rick

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> An abandoned diner on the highway
> near my home:
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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Oooo, i like that shot.

Dave

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>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
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RE: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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> 
> An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
> 
> Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.
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Fascinating, although I would prefer the balance of the composition to have
been ever so slightly to the left. I agree with the run of comments, and
think this is a very interesting and worthwhile project.

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[ann sanfedele]

Dan-
anther  Jersey DIner that bit the dust  is the Tunnel Diner... I never 
got a decent shot of it - it
was there one day and gone the next and the parking area got fenced in 
quickly...


I love the light in your shot... just right - great colors... etc

I presume you have (or have seen ) John Bader's wonderful book of diners 
from about um 30 or 40 years ago.  If not, you'd enjoy it  I'm pretty 
sure it is still in print too.


ann

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks Ann and Bruce.

Yes, this is a real Jersey diner.  It is located on the Eastbound side
of US 22 in Whitehouse (Readington Township), New Jersey.  It is only
a few miles from my house.

This is a part of a series of Jersey diners I am working on.  There is
another partially abandoned diner just east of this one, part of which
is now functioning as a bar.  (I will post an image of that as a PESO
shortly, then I will try a GESO).  A bit further yet to the east is
the shiny new diner at when my Rotary Club meets.  I will try to get a
decent image of that tomorrow morning.

I love diners, and they are so much a part of New Jersey's traditional
lifestyle that I hate to see so many disappear or, like this one,
become abandoned.

Dan M

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
 


Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
   


An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681

Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.

Dan M
 


I quite like that shot, Dan.

-bmw

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

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Thanks, Paul.

See my reply to Ann and Bruce about the location.

Dan M

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:27 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> A fascinating structure. Makes me want to buy it and put it back in 
> service:-). Where is it? Looks familiar.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
>>
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks Ann and Bruce.

Yes, this is a real Jersey diner.  It is located on the Eastbound side
of US 22 in Whitehouse (Readington Township), New Jersey.  It is only
a few miles from my house.

This is a part of a series of Jersey diners I am working on.  There is
another partially abandoned diner just east of this one, part of which
is now functioning as a bar.  (I will post an image of that as a PESO
shortly, then I will try a GESO).  A bit further yet to the east is
the shiny new diner at when my Rotary Club meets.  I will try to get a
decent image of that tomorrow morning.

I love diners, and they are so much a part of New Jersey's traditional
lifestyle that I hate to see so many disappear or, like this one,
become abandoned.

Dan M

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> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
>>
>> Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.
>>
>> Dan M
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> I quite like that shot, Dan.
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[paul stenquist]

A fascinating structure. Makes me want to buy it and put it back in service:-). 
Where is it? Looks familiar.

Paul


On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681
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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[Bruce Walker]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681

Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.

Dan M


I quite like that shot, Dan.

-bmw

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Re: PESO: Whitehouse Diner

[ann sanfedele]

I love that --
Wish I could have shot that for my diner show of a couple of years ago...
Is this New JErsey?  I forgot where you live, Dan

ann

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


An abandoned diner on the highway near my home:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10873681

Comments, criticisms and suggestions are weldome.

Dan M

 





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