Re: PESO: Balance

2018-05-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a charming image.


Dan Matyola
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On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:17 AM, David Mann  wrote:

> I wanted to put this in the upcoming PUG until I realised it's a phone
> photo.
>
> We'd just had lunch in the botanical gardens one day when my daughter saw
> a cable cover and decided it just had to be walked on.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1061/#peso
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
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Re: PESO: Balance

2018-05-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great shot, wonderful moment!

Paul

> On May 29, 2018, at 12:17 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to put this in the upcoming PUG until I realised it's a phone photo.
> 
> We'd just had lunch in the botanical gardens one day when my daughter saw a 
> cable cover and decided it just had to be walked on.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1061/#peso
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
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Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-31 Thread Jack Davis
David,
I much prefer your version to mine.
I envy your PS eye.

Jack


--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 G'day Bruce,
 
 I generally don't do this unless asked or invited,
 but since everyone
 else is posting there BW versions I'll add mine:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/7waf2
 
 Chanel mixer (R=+25, G=+60, B=+10) method in PS CS2.
 Further adjusted
 using curves.
 
 Dave
 
 On 7/31/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Interesting, has the look of IR film.
  
  I think it works better as a straight up BW shot
 though.
  
  Dave
  
  On 7/31/05, Bruce Dayton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try
 this particular one in
   BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.
  
   Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
   ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
   Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
   Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red
 filter
  
  

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
  
  
   For those interested, here is the original color
 version
  
  

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm
  
   Comments always welcome
  
   --
   Best regards,
   Bruce
  
  
 
 
 


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Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-31 Thread David Savage
Thanks Jack, the credit has to go to Bruce for capturing the scene though. :-)

Dave


On 7/31/05, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David,
 I much prefer your version to mine.
 I envy your PS eye.
 
 Jack
 
 
 --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  G'day Bruce,
 
  I generally don't do this unless asked or invited,
  but since everyone
  else is posting there BW versions I'll add mine:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/7waf2
 
  Chanel mixer (R=+25, G=+60, B=+10) method in PS CS2.
  Further adjusted
  using curves.
 
  Dave
 
  On 7/31/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Interesting, has the look of IR film.
  
   I think it works better as a straight up BW shot
  though.
  
   Dave
  
   On 7/31/05, Bruce Dayton
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try
  this particular one in
BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.
   
Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red
  filter
   
   
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
   
   
For those interested, here is the original color
  version
   
   
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm
   
Comments always welcome
   
--
Best regards,
Bruce
   
   
  
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
After viewing several other conversions, I decided to try my hand at a
more traditional looking BW. I do want to thank everyone for their
efforts.  It was very helpful for me to look at several different
ones.

So here is my conversion:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191a.htm

Here is the orginal BW that looks sort of IR:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm

Here is the original color version:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm


-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, July 30, 2005, 2:32:39 PM, you wrote:

BD A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
BD BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

BD Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
BD ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
BD Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
BD Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter

BD http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm


BD For those interested, here is the original color version

BD http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm

BD Comments always welcome




Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Rick Womer
Bruce,

I can't remember another pic of yours in BW...

This is nice, but would be even nicer if the facing
side of the balancing rock weren't in shadow.  The sky
is so dark that you could probably lighten things
without making the result look strange.

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this
 particular one in
 BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.
 
 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
 ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
 Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter
 

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
 
 
 For those interested, here is the original color
 version
 

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm
 
 Comments always welcome
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 





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Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread David Savage
Interesting, has the look of IR film.

I think it works better as a straight up BW shot though.

Dave

On 7/31/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
 BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.
 
 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
 ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
 Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
 
 
 For those interested, here is the original color version
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm
 
 Comments always welcome
 
 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 




Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Powell Hargrave
Great shot Bruce  AS USUAL...!

But I do think the B/W conversion can be improved.  The red channel leaves
a lot of noise in the sky and the rocks look a bit bleached.
Had a go at it by selecting and darkening the sky and lightening and
boosting the contrast of the shadowed rock.  Just normal PS greyscale
transform.

Results here:
http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/monumentvalley_0191_grey.jpg

Powell


A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm


For those interested, here is the original color version

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm

Comments always welcome

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce




RE: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce ... it's a rather poor conversion.  Tonality of the rocks is
harsh, infrared like, sky is filled with artifacts, tonality is not very
smooth, and there is a very annoying something, maybe sharpening artifacts,
along the left side of the base of rocks upon which the top rock is
balanced.  Maybe you wanted the contrast afforded by the red filter,
however, imo, the execution of it doesn't work well here.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton

 A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
 BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
 ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
 Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm


 For those interested, here is the original color version

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm




Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Powell,

When I did the original conversion, it looked quite IR like, which
kind of intrigued me.  However, seeing what you did, I think I'll go
back for another try and see what I can come up with for a more
traditional BW.  Thanks for taking the time...

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, July 30, 2005, 3:51:40 PM, you wrote:

PH Great shot Bruce  AS USUAL...!

PH But I do think the B/W conversion can be improved.  The red channel leaves
PH a lot of noise in the sky and the rocks look a bit bleached.
PH Had a go at it by selecting and darkening the sky and lightening and
PH boosting the contrast of the shadowed rock.  Just normal PS greyscale
PH transform.

PH Results here:
PH http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/monumentvalley_0191_grey.jpg

PH Powell


A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm


For those interested, here is the original color version

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm

Comments always welcome

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce






RE: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Since I kvetched about the conversion, it's only fair i put up a variation
for you to see.  I checked each color channel (after the heads-up from
Powell) and saw that it was in poor condition.  So, I converted to Lab
color and worked only with the luminosity, or lightness channel.  The
results look a little better in PS than they do on my screen and viewed
through the browsers - and if I were to spend a little more time on it I
might try increasing local contrast in some areas of the rocks that are in
shade.  However, it seems that the tonality here reflects the tonal range
in your original fairly well, so I didn't want to really change the photo.

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/temp/nv-bw.html

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton 

 A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
 BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm




RE: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/temp/mv-bw.html

Whoops!  Typo ... sorry

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 7/30/2005 5:17:01 PM
 Subject: RE: PESO - Balance

 Since I kvetched about the conversion, it's only fair i put up a
variation for you to see.  I checked each color channel (after the heads-up
from Powell) and saw that it was in poor condition.  So, I converted to Lab
color and worked only with the luminosity, or lightness channel.  The
results look a little better in PS than they do on my screen and viewed
through the browsers - and if I were to spend a little more time on it I
might try increasing local contrast in some areas of the rocks that are in
shade.  However, it seems that the tonality here reflects the tonal range
in your original fairly well, so I didn't want to really change the photo.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/temp/nv-bw.html

 Shel 


  [Original Message]
  From: Bruce Dayton 

  A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
  BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm




Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce,
Just now took a look at Balance. IMO it lacks the
depth that might be provided by a slight + nudge of
the contrast slider.
Shel's clean (virtually artifact free) treatment
appears to me a great starting point, so am offering a
version providing a hint more depth.
Tiny +contrast and light glare-removing touches with
burn tool.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=76

 


--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Powell,
 
 When I did the original conversion, it looked quite
 IR like, which
 kind of intrigued me.  However, seeing what you did,
 I think I'll go
 back for another try and see what I can come up with
 for a more
 traditional BW.  Thanks for taking the time...
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Saturday, July 30, 2005, 3:51:40 PM, you wrote:
 
 PH Great shot Bruce  AS USUAL...!
 
 PH But I do think the B/W conversion can be
 improved.  The red channel leaves
 PH a lot of noise in the sky and the rocks look a
 bit bleached.
 PH Had a go at it by selecting and darkening the
 sky and lightening and
 PH boosting the contrast of the shadowed rock. 
 Just normal PS greyscale
 PH transform.
 
 PH Results here:
 PH

http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/monumentvalley_0191_grey.jpg
 
 PH Powell
 
 
 A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this
 particular one in
 BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.
 
 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
 ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
 Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red
 filter
 

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
 
 
 For those interested, here is the original color
 version
 

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm
 
 Comments always welcome
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 
 
 




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Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm


For those interested, here is the original color version

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm


Bruce, I think Shel's treatment is right to the point.

However, with all honesty, I like the color original better than either 
of b/w shots. Probably opening up shadows on the balancing rock would 
make it even more attractive to me. I mean the color shot of course.


Boris



Re: PESO - Balance

2005-07-30 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton

Subject: PESO - Balance



A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in
BW.  It is Balancing Rock in Arches.

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer
ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length
Converted from Raw using Capture One LE
Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm


For those interested, here is the original color version

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm

Comments always welcome


The BW is better than the colour.
You really need to let that little camera go and start shooting large 
format.


William Robb