Re: PESO: Balance
That is a charming image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:17 AM, David Mann wrote: > I wanted to put this in the upcoming PUG until I realised it's a phone > photo. > > We'd just had lunch in the botanical gardens one day when my daughter saw > a cable cover and decided it just had to be walked on. > > http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1061/#peso > > Cheers, > Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Balance
Great shot, wonderful moment! Paul > On May 29, 2018, at 12:17 AM, David Mann wrote: > > I wanted to put this in the upcoming PUG until I realised it's a phone photo. > > We'd just had lunch in the botanical gardens one day when my daughter saw a > cable cover and decided it just had to be walked on. > > http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1061/#peso > > Cheers, > Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balance
David, I much prefer your version to mine. I envy your PS eye. Jack --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Bruce, I generally don't do this unless asked or invited, but since everyone else is posting there BW versions I'll add mine: http://tinyurl.com/7waf2 Chanel mixer (R=+25, G=+60, B=+10) method in PS CS2. Further adjusted using curves. Dave On 7/31/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, has the look of IR film. I think it works better as a straight up BW shot though. Dave On 7/31/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thanks Jack, the credit has to go to Bruce for capturing the scene though. :-) Dave On 7/31/05, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, I much prefer your version to mine. I envy your PS eye. Jack --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Bruce, I generally don't do this unless asked or invited, but since everyone else is posting there BW versions I'll add mine: http://tinyurl.com/7waf2 Chanel mixer (R=+25, G=+60, B=+10) method in PS CS2. Further adjusted using curves. Dave On 7/31/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, has the look of IR film. I think it works better as a straight up BW shot though. Dave On 7/31/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Balance
After viewing several other conversions, I decided to try my hand at a more traditional looking BW. I do want to thank everyone for their efforts. It was very helpful for me to look at several different ones. So here is my conversion: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191a.htm Here is the orginal BW that looks sort of IR: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm Here is the original color version: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 30, 2005, 2:32:39 PM, you wrote: BD A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BD BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. BD Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer BD ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length BD Converted from Raw using Capture One LE BD Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter BD http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm BD For those interested, here is the original color version BD http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm BD Comments always welcome
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Bruce, I can't remember another pic of yours in BW... This is nice, but would be even nicer if the facing side of the balancing rock weren't in shadow. The sky is so dark that you could probably lighten things without making the result look strange. Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: PESO - Balance
Interesting, has the look of IR film. I think it works better as a straight up BW shot though. Dave On 7/31/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
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Great shot Bruce AS USUAL...! But I do think the B/W conversion can be improved. The red channel leaves a lot of noise in the sky and the rocks look a bit bleached. Had a go at it by selecting and darkening the sky and lightening and boosting the contrast of the shadowed rock. Just normal PS greyscale transform. Results here: http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/monumentvalley_0191_grey.jpg Powell A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
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Hi Bruce ... it's a rather poor conversion. Tonality of the rocks is harsh, infrared like, sky is filled with artifacts, tonality is not very smooth, and there is a very annoying something, maybe sharpening artifacts, along the left side of the base of rocks upon which the top rock is balanced. Maybe you wanted the contrast afforded by the red filter, however, imo, the execution of it doesn't work well here. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm
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Hello Powell, When I did the original conversion, it looked quite IR like, which kind of intrigued me. However, seeing what you did, I think I'll go back for another try and see what I can come up with for a more traditional BW. Thanks for taking the time... -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 30, 2005, 3:51:40 PM, you wrote: PH Great shot Bruce AS USUAL...! PH But I do think the B/W conversion can be improved. The red channel leaves PH a lot of noise in the sky and the rocks look a bit bleached. PH Had a go at it by selecting and darkening the sky and lightening and PH boosting the contrast of the shadowed rock. Just normal PS greyscale PH transform. PH Results here: PH http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/monumentvalley_0191_grey.jpg PH Powell A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
RE: PESO - Balance
Since I kvetched about the conversion, it's only fair i put up a variation for you to see. I checked each color channel (after the heads-up from Powell) and saw that it was in poor condition. So, I converted to Lab color and worked only with the luminosity, or lightness channel. The results look a little better in PS than they do on my screen and viewed through the browsers - and if I were to spend a little more time on it I might try increasing local contrast in some areas of the rocks that are in shade. However, it seems that the tonality here reflects the tonal range in your original fairly well, so I didn't want to really change the photo. http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/temp/nv-bw.html Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
RE: PESO - Balance
http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/temp/mv-bw.html Whoops! Typo ... sorry Shel [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/30/2005 5:17:01 PM Subject: RE: PESO - Balance Since I kvetched about the conversion, it's only fair i put up a variation for you to see. I checked each color channel (after the heads-up from Powell) and saw that it was in poor condition. So, I converted to Lab color and worked only with the luminosity, or lightness channel. The results look a little better in PS than they do on my screen and viewed through the browsers - and if I were to spend a little more time on it I might try increasing local contrast in some areas of the rocks that are in shade. However, it seems that the tonality here reflects the tonal range in your original fairly well, so I didn't want to really change the photo. http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/temp/nv-bw.html Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm
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Bruce, Just now took a look at Balance. IMO it lacks the depth that might be provided by a slight + nudge of the contrast slider. Shel's clean (virtually artifact free) treatment appears to me a great starting point, so am offering a version providing a hint more depth. Tiny +contrast and light glare-removing touches with burn tool. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=76 --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Powell, When I did the original conversion, it looked quite IR like, which kind of intrigued me. However, seeing what you did, I think I'll go back for another try and see what I can come up with for a more traditional BW. Thanks for taking the time... -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 30, 2005, 3:51:40 PM, you wrote: PH Great shot Bruce AS USUAL...! PH But I do think the B/W conversion can be improved. The red channel leaves PH a lot of noise in the sky and the rocks look a bit bleached. PH Had a go at it by selecting and darkening the sky and lightening and PH boosting the contrast of the shadowed rock. Just normal PS greyscale PH transform. PH Results here: PH http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/monumentvalley_0191_grey.jpg PH Powell A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome -- Best regards, Bruce __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Balance
Hi! A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Bruce, I think Shel's treatment is right to the point. However, with all honesty, I like the color original better than either of b/w shots. Probably opening up shadows on the balancing rock would make it even more attractive to me. I mean the color shot of course. Boris
Re: PESO - Balance
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: PESO - Balance A bit of a departure for me, I decided to try this particular one in BW. It is Balancing Rock in Arches. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, Polarizer ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/13, 16mm focal length Converted from Raw using Capture One LE Converted to BW with Picture Window Pro - Red filter http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191bw.htm For those interested, here is the original color version http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0191.htm Comments always welcome The BW is better than the colour. You really need to let that little camera go and start shooting large format. William Robb