Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
On 9/18/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More detail in the man's suit than the original. > > Better rendering of the woman (including more detail and less "muddiness") > > http://tinyurl.com/yvrq63 I don't have the original first pass in front of me, but I prefer this third rendering to the second one you posted. I like that there's more texture in the sidewalk, and the bricks/concrete on the building. And I can make out detail in the man's suit. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
Nicely done, now if you maintain all that and return to the original moodiness of the photo... frank theriault wrote: > On 9/17/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There are elements in each that are improvements. You need to combine >> the two. >> > > Okay, here's another re-working, with what what I think are the > following improvements: > > Better contrast than the original. > > More detail in the man's suit than the original. > > Better rendering of the woman (including more detail and less "muddiness") > > http://tinyurl.com/yvrq63 > > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru_Ul3jQnLI/At0/iLcyBwP1NGc/s1600-h/sept_18+001.jpg > > thanks, > frank > > > > > -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
On 9/17/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are elements in each that are improvements. You need to combine > the two. Okay, here's another re-working, with what what I think are the following improvements: Better contrast than the original. More detail in the man's suit than the original. Better rendering of the woman (including more detail and less "muddiness") http://tinyurl.com/yvrq63 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru_Ul3jQnLI/At0/iLcyBwP1NGc/s1600-h/sept_18+001.jpg thanks, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
On 9/18/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/17/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are elements in each that are improvements. You need to combine > > the two. > > Okay, here's another re-working, with what what I think are the > following improvements: > > Better contrast than the original. > > More detail in the man's suit than the original. > > Better rendering of the woman (including more detail and less "muddiness") > > http://tinyurl.com/yvrq63 > > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru_Ul3jQnLI/At0/iLcyBwP1NGc/s1600-h/sept_18+001.jpg > > thanks, > frank Now that I look at them side-by-side, the contrast of the one I posted yesterday (all except the woman) was better. Sheesh. Just ignore me. Not having a good week so far... -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
My understanding is, Frank, that very often when I sit down to edit my
stuff, I tend to want to recreate the light the way I remember it. And
it turns out that many times my memory for light is simply unreliable.
So I would come up with the rendering that seems correct to me but my
mind is limited by my incorrect memory. Then returning to the shot
sometime thereafter, or better yet starting to edit not immediately
after the shot helps to unremember the light and therefore get better
rendering.
I like the second better though I think that the first one could have
rights to exist with slight modifications as well.
Cheers.
Boris
frank theriault wrote:
> Still learning PS and processing generally. I'm afraid that my film
> days made me lazy ("here, Robert, print these the way you always do").
> Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
> no detail in the man's suit.
>
> Here's the re-working:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg
>
> Here's last weeks muddy rendering:
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg
>
> Improvement? Other comments? Thanks in advance.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
Definitely better!
Good shot, too.
Rick
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still learning PS and processing generally. I'm
> afraid that my film
> days made me lazy ("here, Robert, print these the
> way you always do").
> Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was
> muddy and there was
> no detail in the man's suit.
>
> Here's the re-working:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq
>
>
http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg
>
> Here's last weeks muddy rendering:
>
>
http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg
>
> Improvement? Other comments? Thanks in advance.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
FWIW - I like the reworking although you've lost some detail.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
> Still learning PS and processing generally. I'm afraid that my film
> days made me lazy ("here, Robert, print these the way you always do").
> Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
> no detail in the man's suit.
>
> Here's the re-working:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg
>
> Here's last weeks muddy rendering:
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg
>
> Improvement? Other comments? Thanks in advance.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
There are elements in each that are improvements. You need to combine
the two.
frank theriault wrote:
> Still learning PS and processing generally. I'm afraid that my film
> days made me lazy ("here, Robert, print these the way you always do").
> Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
> no detail in the man's suit.
>
> Here's the re-working:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg
>
> Here's last weeks muddy rendering:
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg
>
> Improvement? Other comments? Thanks in advance.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)
Frank, with my eyes there is still no detail in the man's suit :)
it looks better in the new one from a technical point of view - it
looks like you just made it a bit brighter and
added a bit of contrast, yes?
The shot is good regardless - until you said you were lacking detail in
the guys suit I didn't even notice -
I'm looking at what is happening in the photo, not the buttons on the
guys suit...
nice shot !
ann
frank theriault wrote:
>Still learning PS and processing generally. I'm afraid that my film
>days made me lazy ("here, Robert, print these the way you always do").
> Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
>no detail in the man's suit.
>
>Here's the re-working:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq
>
>http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg
>
>Here's last weeks muddy rendering:
>
>http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg
>
>Improvement? Other comments? Thanks in advance.
>
>cheers,
>frank
>
>
>
>
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