Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
This group looks like some sub-species of birders. On 7/14/2014 4:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster, but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns scenes and shoot them. I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs. Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images. And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way he runs the workshop. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . ann On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
The main reason I continue to use workshops/tours is to get the most out of a specific area. There is no way I could scout an area to obtain the maximum utilization of my field time with out them. That plus the enforced discipline of getting up at oh dark thirty to get the best light. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Actually, I feel the same way about Nature walks, birding walks, committees, travel tours ... The shot was "one" of the reasons... but figuratively it coveres the whole terrain. But basically I just don't like doing stuff in groups... and I especially don't like paying to do things in groups that I can do just as well alone. One other person is nice sometimes, but a gaggle is too many. It is annoyingly hot and humid here today - I'm grumpy ann On 7/14/2014 16:25, Ken Waller wrote: One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster, but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns scenes and shoot them. I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs. Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images. And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way he runs the workshop. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . ann On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
Oh I don't mind encountering other shooters, swapping stories, etc. - it is the organized stuff I'm not intersted in .. no workshops, no classes, no group tours - but if I see more than a couple I split.. Unless, of course, there is a cormorant ann On 7/14/2014 17:36, Jack Davis wrote: ann, our high temp forecast for today is either 108 or 109, depending upon whom you chose to believe. Gosh, I sure hope the 108 is right. whew!! hehe! I've had a number of impromptu unguided shooting experiences wherein shooters would concentrate at the site's prime locations. Partially Ansel's fault. Yosemite and Grand Teton Ntl Pk, for example. There are several places in each area that you'd best get to early and squat on your spot. Never have I been shut out or had a kerfuffle with another photographer. Well, there was this one timeoh, never mind. J - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "PDML" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:11:19 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Actually, I feel the same way about Nature walks, birding walks, committees, travel tours ... The shot was "one" of the reasons... but figuratively it coveres the whole terrain. But basically I just don't like doing stuff in groups... and I especially don't like paying to do things in groups that I can do just as well alone. One other person is nice sometimes, but a gaggle is too many. It is annoyingly hot and humid here today - I'm grumpy ann On 7/14/2014 16:25, Ken Waller wrote: One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster, but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns scenes and shoot them. I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs. Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images. And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way he runs the workshop. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . ann On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
ann, our high temp forecast for today is either 108 or 109, depending upon whom you chose to believe. Gosh, I sure hope the 108 is right. whew!! hehe! I've had a number of impromptu unguided shooting experiences wherein shooters would concentrate at the site's prime locations. Partially Ansel's fault. Yosemite and Grand Teton Ntl Pk, for example. There are several places in each area that you'd best get to early and squat on your spot. Never have I been shut out or had a kerfuffle with another photographer. Well, there was this one timeoh, never mind. J - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "PDML" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:11:19 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Actually, I feel the same way about Nature walks, birding walks, committees, travel tours ... The shot was "one" of the reasons... but figuratively it coveres the whole terrain. But basically I just don't like doing stuff in groups... and I especially don't like paying to do things in groups that I can do just as well alone. One other person is nice sometimes, but a gaggle is too many. It is annoyingly hot and humid here today - I'm grumpy ann On 7/14/2014 16:25, Ken Waller wrote: >> One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . > > I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and > find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure > the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster, > but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns > scenes and shoot them. > > I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and > after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I > never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was > the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs. > Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images. > > And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way > he runs the workshop. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > ----- Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 > > > Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . > > ann > > On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: >> Great fun! Cheers, Christine >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: >> >>> Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility >>> and stealth: >>> >>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frank >>> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
Actually, I feel the same way about Nature walks, birding walks, committees, travel tours ... The shot was "one" of the reasons... but figuratively it coveres the whole terrain. But basically I just don't like doing stuff in groups... and I especially don't like paying to do things in groups that I can do just as well alone. One other person is nice sometimes, but a gaggle is too many. It is annoyingly hot and humid here today - I'm grumpy ann On 7/14/2014 16:25, Ken Waller wrote: One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster, but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns scenes and shoot them. I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs. Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images. And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way he runs the workshop. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . ann On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . I gotta respond to this as I've attended many workshops and tours and find most participants I've shot with don't exhibit this behavior. Sure the first timers is most likly to stick to a group and shoot in cluster, but the more experienced photog , in my experience will find his owns scenes and shoot them. I returned a few weeks ago from a workshop in the U P of Michigan and after 5 days of shooting with 4 other photogs, I can honestly say I never experienced the group shoot depicted in the photo. Perhaps it was the fact that the other participant were older more experienced photogs. Not to say we didn't point out to the others where we had made some images. And I guess the group shoot might reflect the on the leader and the way he runs the workshop. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . ann On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
Oy. One of the reasons I don't like photo "workshops" . ann On 7/12/2014 11:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Har! That's a hoot... On 7/10/2014 11:38 PM, knarf wrote: Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nature Photography 101
Great fun! Cheers, Christine On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, knarf wrote: > Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and > stealth: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very funny! Reminds me why I don't participate in workshops (apart from being bloody expensive). On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:38 AM, knarf wrote: > Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and > stealth: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe they were cloud-busting? At least have to give them credit for having their hoods on correctly. A very fun shot, Frank. :-) On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:38 PM, knarf wrote: > Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and > stealth: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hilarious, and very well composed and rendered. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:38 PM, knarf wrote: > Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and > stealth: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great catch, Frank! Jack - Original Message - From: "knarf" To: "PDML" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:38:53 PM Subject: PESO - Nature Photography 101 Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and stealth: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Bruce wrote: > Love, love, love it!! same here same here DAVE > > -- > Bruce > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:38 PM, knarf wrote: >> >> Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and >> stealth: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent! > On 11 Jul 2014, at 04:39, "knarf" wrote: > > Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and > stealth: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Me too, too, too! - Marco On Jul 10, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Bruce wrote: > Love, love, love it!! > > -- > Bruce > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:38 PM, knarf wrote: >> >> Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and >> stealth: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Love, love, love it!! -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:38 PM, knarf wrote: > > Lesson 1: Travelling in groups or "clusters" enhances invisibility and > stealth: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/07/nature-photography-101.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
