Re: PESO: Red on Red
That is just stunning! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > A Cardinal sitts atop a Sugar Maple that has just bloomed. A beautiful > day in Michigan. > > https://www.photo.net/photo/18370161/red-in-the-sugar-maple > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red on Red
Love the angle on him - he looks very high church in that pose... ready to sermonize.. so clear why he is named Cardinal ann On 4/2/2017 7:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A Cardinal sitts atop a Sugar Maple that has just bloomed. A beautiful day in Michigan. https://www.photo.net/photo/18370161/red-in-the-sugar-maple -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red on Red
Thanks Ken. A fortunate opportunity. I was shooting in my backyard and heard this guy singing. Looked behind me and there he was in the maple above the roof of my house. Paul via phone > On Apr 2, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Beautiful Paul, simply beautiful. > > The background makes this image! > > -Original Message- >> From: Paul Stenquist >> Subject: PESO: Red on Red >> >> A Cardinal sitts atop a Sugar Maple that has just bloomed. A beautiful day >> in Michigan. >> >> https://www.photo.net/photo/18370161/red-in-the-sugar-maple > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red on Red
Beautiful Paul, simply beautiful. The background makes this image! -Original Message- >From: Paul Stenquist >Subject: PESO: Red on Red > >A Cardinal sitts atop a Sugar Maple that has just bloomed. A beautiful day in >Michigan. > >https://www.photo.net/photo/18370161/red-in-the-sugar-maple -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red on Red
In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:09:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suppose the symmetry was missed because the house is such a focal point, and the mountain somewhat blurry. Perhaps, if you pass that way again, take the photo from a point more to the right, so that the peak of the mountain is closer (measured horizontally) to the peak of the structure, and/or use a smaller aperture so that the mountain peak is more in focus. I don't know that a tonal adjustment would do it. Maris = Well, I like the Red on Red part, but maybe it would actually work better as a B&W. but I am not sure it is worth bothering with. I have to think about it. In the context of other photos, maybe. Thanks, Maris Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Red on Red
I suppose the symmetry was missed because the house is such a focal point, and the mountain somewhat blurry. Perhaps, if you pass that way again, take the photo from a point more to the right, so that the peak of the mountain is closer (measured horizontally) to the peak of the structure, and/or use a smaller aperture so that the mountain peak is more in focus. I don't know that a tonal adjustment would do it. Maris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 5/6/2007 9:39:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Marnie, a bit of examination lead me to the following startling > conclusion - there is a geometrical symmetry or similarity between > the > way the rocks and the rooftops. Whether it is was intentional or it > just > came out like that - I really like this. > > Most probably I would have missed this. > > Well done. In fact, may be you could apply some editing such as crop > or > tonal adjustment as to emphasize these lines... > > Boris > > > No, that was wholly intentional, Boris, which made me wonder why no > one > seemed to like it (well, maybe one did). It is somewhat mild > statement, not a hit you over the head type, but I felt it had > graphic interest anyway. Hmmm, > maybe it does need beefing up somehow to emphasize it more. I > haven't shown it in class yet, maybe the teacher will have a > suggestion. > > Thanks very much for noticing, anyway. And thanks for the input. > > Marine aka Doe :-) > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another >> quick one before tonight. ;-) >> >> This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed > yesterday >> -- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an accompanying photo >> to both. >> >> And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I >> have some geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this >> weekend. >> >> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/6/2007 9:39:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, a bit of examination lead me to the following startling conclusion - there is a geometrical symmetry or similarity between the way the rocks and the rooftops. Whether it is was intentional or it just came out like that - I really like this. Most probably I would have missed this. Well done. In fact, may be you could apply some editing such as crop or tonal adjustment as to emphasize these lines... Boris No, that was wholly intentional, Boris, which made me wonder why no one seemed to like it (well, maybe one did). It is somewhat mild statement, not a hit you over the head type, but I felt it had graphic interest anyway. Hmmm, maybe it does need beefing up somehow to emphasize it more. I haven't shown it in class yet, maybe the teacher will have a suggestion. Thanks very much for noticing, anyway. And thanks for the input. Marine aka Doe :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another quick one > before tonight. ;-) > > This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed yesterday > -- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an accompanying photo to both. > > And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I have some > geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this weekend. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Red on Red
Marnie, a bit of examination lead me to the following startling conclusion - there is a geometrical symmetry or similarity between the way the rocks and the rooftops. Whether it is was intentional or it just came out like that - I really like this. Most probably I would have missed this. Well done. In fact, may be you could apply some editing such as crop or tonal adjustment as to emphasize these lines... Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another quick one > before tonight. ;-) > > This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed yesterday > -- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an accompanying photo to both. > > And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I have some > geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this weekend. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe > > - > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/4/2007 10:53:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess if you want to classify my not caring for a particular shot as an emotional reaction you may be right. But there's a distinction between feeling indifferent towards a shot and having the shot move a person, generating an emotional response. I don't tire of nature/landscape shots showing no trace of man's footprint because 1) I like it that way and 2) that's one aspect of photography, cropping out what we don't WANT to see in the photograph (as is including those elements we wish to see). I can appreciate (even though it may not be your expressed theme) the juxtaposition/intertwining of man and his natural surroundings. I guess what your photos don't do for me, is emphasize that enough. The shots are possibly too regular, too normal, too everyday vantage, that they fail to move me. There is no impact. Out of those you shared, the only other one besides "Stop", that has an impact for me is the oak under the power lines. There is a fair amount of contrast (not light/dark photographically speaking) in the two main components of the photo, that it has meaning. I don't really like the shot, but it does have some meaning. >Do I have to have one theme? As a dyslexia, nope, I usually don't have one >theme or one point. I usually have more than one. So maybe I don't understand your theme. Or maybe you don't have a clear one, or maybe it's TOO multi-faceted for me to get it. As a suggestion though, any presentation whether oral or visual that has a theme should have a clear theme so that the audience gets the point of it and each component of the presentation should reemphasize the theme. Otherwise, the point, if there is one, can get lost. One scene from a movie that has always stuck with me is the opening moments of Joe vs. The Volcano. There's a beautiful tiny flower growing in a crack in the pavement in front of the hideous Anal Probe factory. It's survived for days or weeks, then get's trampled under foot, gone in an instant. Anyway I didn't mean to get you upset, and my reactions were not a criticism of you, so please don't take them that way, if you did. Tom C. = So? I am still a newbie photographer (at least in my own eyes). And I am trying a new thing (for me). Thus I may not always "get it." I may, in fact, be mediocre a lot of the time. I am with other shots not concerning my series. So I make absolutely no apologies for that. I also have a concept in mind, involving collages/montages of more documentary shots combined with more editorializing shots. Sneak up on the viewer with emotional impact and meaning. Let some things sink in before hitting them with a stronger message. And some others seem to like some you do not. Mildly or more than mildly. Different strokes for different folks. I am going to show what I think will fit my series on list to get feeback. You certainly don't have to like anything I show. For this series or anything else. And I don't mind critiques or feedback that pertain to a particular photo. No, Tom, I didn't feel attacked or overly criticized or anything like that. I did feel, however, you wanted to start some kind of debate with me. About environmental concepts or technology or the purpose of photography or the purpose of landscape/nature photography or something. And I am not interested in debating. Here or elsewhere on the Net. I don't have the time or inclination for it. I have felt that I have noticed that you instead seem to enjoy them. But over the years, I have found it really consumes too much of my time, since I am not that verbal a person, to write long posts to others. And it winds me up having to work so hard at expressing myself (that dyslexia thing again). I am more visual anyway, so I'd rather show than tell. So I just stated my opinions to get past all that. And now you have stated yours. As far as I am concerned that is not a debate and now it is over. That is what I meant, I do not wish to continue discussing it. Take Care, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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>I've felt I've responded to you enough before. I will only do it one more >time. > >I am NOT trying to evoke emotions in all the photos. Some I want to be >just >documentation. I will intersperse some editorial shots between those that >are > documentation. Shooting just a good documentary shot isn't necessarily >easy, > BTW. > >snip > >Do I have to have one theme? As a dyslexia, nope, I usually don't have one >theme or one point. I usually have more than one. > >But you invited a rant, so you'll get one. > > > >snip > >I hope to show even more open space stuff as I go along. > >So part of my theme I guess could simply be, stop and smell the flowers. >Too >many think nature is "out there" instead of right here. In this area, at >least, not everything is paved over. We don't have to make special trips >to >Yosemite to see nature, we can see it right by the freeway. We can see >mustard >and poppies right by the freeway. Let's appreciate what is here. Why do we >have >to feel that nature is always over there? Yes, some people I think see it >that way, that nature is not here, it is over there. > >So I am showing it is right here. And I may call my series "Here and Here" >(rather than Here and There). Because I feel it captures it as well as >anything. > >snip > >So "Here and Here" sums that up. And by showing nature in context, right >next to man-made stuff, I am showing it is HERE, not THERE. > >The other aspect is, well, I do get darn tired that a landscape shot must >have all evidence of man erased. Clone out that telephone pole, move the >camera >over two inches to not show the house right next to the undeveloped hill >with the lovely Oak. Is this reality? Nope. > >We've all talked before about how photography lies. Well, sometimes >landscape and nature photography really, really lies. Sure, I like pretty >nature/landscape photography as well as the next person, and I have tried >to produce >some good stuff that way myself. But WHY must all evidence of man be >erased? WHY >do we always have to lie about it? Some of the best "nature/landscape" >shots >in this area are right next to something man-made. If I JUST show the >nature >stuff I am implying that it is existing out there all by itself in some >fairly pristine state. That it is "out there" somewhere, but not HERE. > >Well, practically nothing is in a pristine state anymore. And I get to >feeling more and more that landscape/nature shots are promoting a belief >system >that there is a lot of pristine nature left out there when there isn't. If >we >value what we have right here, if we value some stuff that IS >disappearing, >then we work harder at preserving and having more to shoot and enjoy. It >helps >no one to pretend there is lots and lots of pristine nature in the US. >There >is a great deal yes, but it also does disappear. And why not value what is >here and now? What isn't in some great park, but right next door? Right by >the >freeway? Right by a development? All the birds that visit the century Oak >off >my patio? A century Oak that was not uprooted when this senior community >of >7,000, one of the largest and best in the US, was built? The birds come >and >go, a fantastic variety. They are yuppie suburban birds now. :-) > >I would say, in conclusion, Tom, you ARE having an emotional reaction to >my >shots. It seems you want me to shoot my nature pristine. I would question >why? Do you think we HAVE to be ashamed of ourselves? That if we show >nature >next to man it always means something bad about man? That somehow we are >separate and apart from nature? Are all man's works totally ugly compared >to nature? > >snip > > >snip > >However, I feel I am becoming a better photographer though the process of >focusing on a theme (no matter how unclear it may be to anyone else :-)) >and >also in working harder at it, so that is good. > >Like it or not, this is what I am doing right now, anyway. > >Marnie aka Doe ;-) > > >- >Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > Marnie, Well! You've felt you've responded to me enough before??? OK, I realize this was my LAST chance. :-) Truthfully it was not my intent to irritate you, just give you feedback on the photos. >So part of my theme I guess could simply be, stop and smell the flowers. >Too >many think nature is "out there" instead of right here. In this area, at >least, not everything is paved over. We don't have to make special trips >to >Yosemite to see nature, we can see it right by the freeway. We can see >mustard >and poppies right by the freeway. Let's appreciate what is here. Why do we >have >to feel that nature is always over there? Yes, some people I think see it >that way, that nature is not here, it is over there. You're free to choose whatever theme you like. I agree with the sentiment of 'stop and smell the flowers', where ever
Re: PESO - Red on Red
In a message dated 5/3/2007 12:07:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, still doesn't 'do' anything for me. Maybe next week? Maris === Okay, it probably works better in context with the other shot. Or maybe not. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/3/2007 11:16:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back to the photos though... What is it that makes these photos special to you? I ask because they don't strike me as special in any way. They document a scene, but so does any photo. The one that had some meaning to me was "Stop", because I thing you rendered the scene in an unusual way, with the word "Stop" on the street looming large, and the background was pleasing as well. While I was personally uninterested in the subject, nevertheless the image drew me in and I appreciated the aesthetics of the composition. That's my comments. Not that I'm saying I'm qualified to be a judge, but in my personal opinion, you have one photo that rises above the ordinary, while the rest more or less render the scene, while remaining quite ordinary. They don't make any kind of statement to me, either of a scene unusually rendered, a beautiful scene or an ugly scene. They evoke no emotions. Tom C. I've felt I've responded to you enough before. I will only do it one more time. I am NOT trying to evoke emotions in all the photos. Some I want to be just documentation. I will intersperse some editorial shots between those that are documentation. Shooting just a good documentary shot isn't necessarily easy, BTW. Everyone else has assumed my theme is man's impact on nature. Which I have found amusing. Yes, some of my theme is that. As in, no, I don't like they building right up to the boundary of Mt. Diablo State Park. So Stop was editorializing and meant to evoke emotion. So is the Oak one with the voltage tower. I have admired that particular Oak for years, it sits on top of a round little hill next to the Freeway. But now it has a big old gas station next to it that wasn't there before, and I had never found the high voltage stuff near it before. Do I have to have one theme? As a dyslexia, nope, I usually don't have one theme or one point. I usually have more than one. But you invited a rant, so you'll get one. YES, man is a part of nature. That IS part of my theme. YES, we are not going anywhere (if we can help it). YES, technology is great. We are here, nature is here. So you hit on part of my theme. In CC County we have great open space and great open space laws. Lots in Mt. Diablo State Park. And lots by the county, and lots city by city. We probably do it as well as anywhere. Or at least now we do, having Mt. Diablo State Park here helped. More stuff is set aside for open space all the time even as more and more development goes on. OTOH, one of these days our development may outstrip our water supply and that may be a problem. OTOH, I seriously admire the long range thinking of many of the people in this area that have worked hard on saving Mt. Diablo and setting up city by city open space. I hope to show even more open space stuff as I go along. So part of my theme I guess could simply be, stop and smell the flowers. Too many think nature is "out there" instead of right here. In this area, at least, not everything is paved over. We don't have to make special trips to Yosemite to see nature, we can see it right by the freeway. We can see mustard and poppies right by the freeway. Let's appreciate what is here. Why do we have to feel that nature is always over there? Yes, some people I think see it that way, that nature is not here, it is over there. So I am showing it is right here. And I may call my series "Here and Here" (rather than Here and There). Because I feel it captures it as well as anything. Another aspect is animals are becoming more and more urbanized. When my mom moved into this senior community there were no deer. They had left because of the building. It took about 15-20 years, but slowly they came back. Because they can't hunt within this senior community, the deer are all over the place. Eating people's plants, etc. At first I think people were pissed they ate the plants, then they seemed to get it. The deer were here first and they now have no where else to go. So let's live with them, eh? Let them live side by side with us. If we want to keep some wildlife we are going to have to accept that it becomes urbanized and go with the flow. I hope to show some urbanized animals as well. So "Here and Here" sums that up. And by showing nature in context, right next to man-made stuff, I am showing it is HERE, not THERE. The other aspect is, well, I do get darn tired that a landscape shot must have all evidence of man erased. Clone out that telephone pole, move the camera over two inches to not show the house right next to the undeveloped hill with the lovely Oak. Is this reality? Nope. We've all talked before about how photography lies. Well, sometimes landscape and nature photography really, really lies. Sure, I like pretty nature/landscape photo
Re: PESO - Red on Red
Sorry, still doesn't 'do' anything for me. Maybe next week? Maris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another > quick one before tonight. ;-) > > This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed > yesterday -- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an > accompanying photo to both. > > And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I have > some geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this weekend. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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>Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another quick one >before tonight. ;-) > >This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed >yesterday >-- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an accompanying photo to both. > >And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I have some >geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this weekend. > >http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm > >Comments welcome. > >Marnie aka Doe > May I rain on your parade? :-) I'm doing so in all sincerity, not being mean natured. If your purpose is to document man's intrusion on nature, then I think you've accomplished that. I have to admit I don't quite understand the point of it, because 1) we ARE part of nature and 2) we obviously modify our environment more than any other species on the planet (I guess bovine and termite flatuence takes 2nd and 3rd). The Red on Red shot leaves me thinking, "OK, so what? We all live in man-made domociles. Another neighborhood built near a mountain. Neigborhoods have to be built somewhere." The very fact that you have a digital camera that is is sitting upon a high peak of 200+ years (if not 1000's) of technological development, allowing you to record the intrusion seems rather circular. :-) Is there a point that I'm missing or not getting? Back to the photos though... What is it that makes these photos special to you? I ask because they don't strike me as special in any way. They document a scene, but so does any photo. The one that had some meaning to me was "Stop", because I thing you rendered the scene in an unusual way, with the word "Stop" on the street looming large, and the background was pleasing as well. While I was personally uninterested in the subject, nevertheless the image drew me in and I appreciated the aesthetics of the composition. That's my comments. Not that I'm saying I'm qualified to be a judge, but in my personal opinion, you have one photo that rises above the ordinary, while the rest more or less render the scene, while remaining quite ordinary. They don't make any kind of statement to me, either of a scene unusually rendered, a beautiful scene or an ugly scene. They evoke no emotions. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/3/2007 9:40:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Bulldozers and explosives will be used as necessary". Jack Heeheehee. It does sort of look like that, huh? LOL. Actually, that is the coal striping mining area behind Black Diamond Mine. And probably the boundary of Mt. Diablo State Park. They are building right up to the edge of it, in other words. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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"Bulldozers and explosives will be used as necessary". Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another > quick one > before tonight. ;-) > > This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed > yesterday > -- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an accompanying photo to > both. > > And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I have > some > geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this weekend. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe > > - > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > ** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Marnie, I enjoyed the whole series (probably more like a GESO than separated PESOs). Just for the record, Mustard Field #2 is one of my favorites. On 5/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, obviously no one liked the two mustard fields, so another quick one > before tonight. ;-) > > This goes with the pleasant pastoral scene of Mt. Diablo I showed yesterday > -- an accompanying photo. Stop will also be an accompanying photo to both. > > And that is probably it for this week on my series. Although I have some > geese shots (that won't work) that I may show this weekend. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/redonred.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe > > - > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net