Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
At 21:56 21-02-2001 +0100, you wrote: > > >"Rui L. Mendes" wrote: >> Hello Carlos, >> How it is possible to lock the mirror of the Z-1? >> I don't remember seeing that in camera manual. >> Thanks, > >Hi Rui, >By using the 2 second self timer. It locks the mirror up before firing >the shutter, as it does in the Z-1p, or so I think. Hi Carlos, I had the opportunity to do that in both Z-1 and the Z-1p, but while the mirror locks in the Z-1p it doesn't in the Z-1. So, it doesn't possible to have this characteristic in Z-1. >Ou pelo menos é isso o que eu penso, já que só usei essa carateristica >da camera umas duas vezes. > >Até mais. Obrigado pela resposta em português. Até breve, Rui L. Mendes >-- >Carlos Royo >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain >-- >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
"Rui L. Mendes" wrote: > Hello Carlos, > How it is possible to lock the mirror of the Z-1? > I don't remember seeing that in camera manual. > Thanks, Hi Rui, By using the 2 second self timer. It locks the mirror up before firing the shutter, as it does in the Z-1p, or so I think. Ou pelo menos é isso o que eu penso, já que só usei essa carateristica da camera umas duas vezes. Até mais. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
herbet brasileiro escribió: > Are you sure about that. I just tried with my PZ1 and > I can't really see if the mirror goes up before the > shutter curtains are oppened. > As I said, I've used that feature only a pair of times, and I don't know if my memory serves me right. When my Z-1 has no film in, I'll try to check it, and I'll tell you what I find out. > >The only thing I miss in my > > Z-1 is the flash > > compensation feature the Z1P has, but after some > > thought I decided it > > wasn't such an important reason to switch to a Z-1P. > > Anyway, you can do > > it in manual mode or Hyper Manual in the Z-1. > > How would you do that then? > It's easy, but not as easy as in a Z-1p. You start by using the Hyper Manual mode in your Z-1, and then you set the aperture and shutter speed (1/250 or slower), by using the + or - indicators in the viewfinder, or if you want a faster way, by pressing the IF button at the back of the camera. Then, you press the exposure compensation button, and dial the flash compensation you want. Sometimes I find it slow, as you have to reset the exposure compensation to zero, and start all the process again when you want to take several pictures using flash compensation in changing light conditions. This compensation will affect only the flash output. I hope my explanation is more or less clear. If you want any more details, please feel free to ask, and I'll answer them as well as I can. Cheers. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
Jan van Wijk escribió: > > Well, mine certainly does NOT! > > This is the first I checked after learning about this feature on the PZ1p! > (and just checked again to be sure :-) > > Now mine is one of the first Z1 model I guess, bought new in 1991 I think. I will have to check this when I finish the film in my Z-1. I lasused it several years ago, and perhaps my memory doesn't serve me well this time. I also bought my Z-1 new, but in mid 1992. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:38:00 +0100, Carlos Royo wrote: >> By the way, the PZ1 does have a 2s timming driver >> mode. Are you guys shure it doesn't lock the mirror up >> like the PZ1p? I gotta check that. > >Hello Herbet, >I've used a couple of times this feature in my Z-1, and it does lock the >mirror up like the Z-1P. Well, mine certainly does NOT! This is the first I checked after learning about this feature on the PZ1p! (and just checked again to be sure :-) Now mine is one of the first Z1 model I guess, bought new in 1991 I think. Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
- Original Message - From: "Bob Wilkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:53 PM Subject: Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hm... .. > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:07:59 -0500 "dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Still looking at good, used Pentaxes. Now noticing the differences > >between >the PZ1 and the PZ1p. .. > >Oh, one more big difference. $100. (Aprox.) > > > > Just curious - what's the going price for PZ1 and PZ1p bodies? I have > used a PZ1 for several years and think it's the best value in a used > Pentax body. (I have a second PZ1 body that I am putting on consignment > at a local photo shop - haven't ever needed it for a backup) > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
--- Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Herbet, > I've used a couple of times this feature in my Z-1, > and it does lock the > mirror up like the Z-1P. Hi Carlos, Are you sure about that. I just tried with my PZ1 and I can't really see if the mirror goes up before the shutter curtains are oppened. >The only thing I miss in my > Z-1 is the flash > compensation feature the Z1P has, but after some > thought I decided it > wasn't such an important reason to switch to a Z-1P. > Anyway, you can do > it in manual mode or Hyper Manual in the Z-1. How would you do that then? Herbet. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
Carlos Royo wrote: >Hello Herbet, >I've used a couple of times this feature in my Z-1, and it does lock the >mirror up like the Z-1P. Hello Carlos, How it is possible to lock the mirror of the Z-1? I don't remember seeing that in camera manual. Thanks, Rui L. Mendes - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
>The 2 second mirror lock-up is for critical macro or telephoto shots. The >manual mirror lock-up feature on the LX or K2 or ... do make a difference >when shooting 300mm+ lenses on a tripod. The whole camera/lens combination >gets to shaking when the mirror goes up. The 2 second pre-fire is designed >to let the camera stop wiggling before the shutter opens. Yep. Just a few days ago I was on my way to work and spotted a great potential shot. I had my PZ-1p and wide-tele zoom with me but no tripod or cable release...and I knew I'd be looking at a long shutter speed. I just bundled up my coat on the roof of my car and positioned the camera onto it. The 2-second morror lock-up saved the day. >That said, I own a PZ-1 and have never been able to justify upgrading to a >PZ-1p. The only feature that I think about is the flash compensation. I >believe the PZ-1p has an easy system to use for daylight fill flash. This is >a feature you missed. Yes, that's a biggie, too. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
>Still looking at good, used Pentaxes. Now noticing the differences between >the PZ1 and the PZ1p. Main ones seem to be, Z1 has 1fps drive less speed >(NoBigDeal), no red eye reduction(NBD), and no 2 sec mirror lock-up. On >this >last one my ignorance shows What is a 2 sec mirror lock-up, and why >would I need, or want, to have it? >Oh, one more big difference. $100. (Aprox.) >Thanks, >Dosk Few years back I remember reading the Z-1 had mirror box problem while the Z-1p did not. However, I have never been able to confirm this. Maybe some Z-1 owners share their experience, good and bad. regards, Alan Chan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What is a 2 sec mirror lock-up, and why would I need, or want, to have it? Oh, one more big difference. $100. (Aprox.) >> The 2 second mirror lock-up is for critical macro or telephoto shots. The manual mirror lock-up feature on the LX or K2 or ... do make a difference when shooting 300mm+ lenses on a tripod. The whole camera/lens combination gets to shaking when the mirror goes up. The 2 second pre-fire is designed to let the camera stop wiggling before the shutter opens. That said, I own a PZ-1 and have never been able to justify upgrading to a PZ-1p. The only feature that I think about is the flash compensation. I believe the PZ-1p has an easy system to use for daylight fill flash. This is a feature you missed. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
Yes, the new flash have exp. compensation. Hopefully, it is compatible with the older bodies, too. Arnie - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hm... .. > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Arne Lie (f) wrote: > > > Most important, PZ1p has dedicated flash exposure compensation, which PZ1 > > does not have, nor (it seems!) the MZ-S... > > I heard that the MZ-S does do flash exposure compensation, but through the > new flash, not the body. > > chris > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Arne Lie (f) wrote: > Most important, PZ1p has dedicated flash exposure compensation, which PZ1 > does not have, nor (it seems!) the MZ-S... I heard that the MZ-S does do flash exposure compensation, but through the new flash, not the body. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
Most important, PZ1p has dedicated flash exposure compensation, which PZ1 does not have, nor (it seems!) the MZ-S... Arnie - Original Message - From: "SETH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hm... .. > "dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Still looking at good, used Pentaxes. Now noticing the differences > between > > the PZ1 and the PZ1p. Main ones seem to be, Z1 has 1fps drive less > speed > > (NoBigDeal), no red eye reduction(NBD), and no 2 sec mirror > lock-up. On this > > last one my ignorance shows What is a 2 sec mirror lock-up, > and why > > would I need, or want, to have it? > > Oh, one more big difference. $100. (Aprox.) > > Also PZ-1p flash covers 28mm while PZ-1 covers 35mm. OTOH, PZ-1 has > built-in intervalometer and keeps track of two focal lengths with > power zoom lenses compared to one for PZ-1p. > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
"dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still looking at good, used Pentaxes. Now noticing the differences between > the PZ1 and the PZ1p. Main ones seem to be, Z1 has 1fps drive less speed > (NoBigDeal), no red eye reduction(NBD), and no 2 sec mirror lock-up. On this > last one my ignorance shows What is a 2 sec mirror lock-up, and why > would I need, or want, to have it? > Oh, one more big difference. $100. (Aprox.) Also PZ-1p flash covers 28mm while PZ-1 covers 35mm. OTOH, PZ-1 has built-in intervalometer and keeps track of two focal lengths with power zoom lenses compared to one for PZ-1p. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hmmmmm... ..
Instead of adding a mirror lockup lever or switch, Pentax opted for a 2 second timer setting that brings the mirror up when activated. You need a mirror lockup for slow shutter speed exposures, to eliminate any possible vibrations caused by the mirror. Jeff - Original Message - From: "dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: PZ1 vs. PZ1p. Hm... .. > Still looking at good, used Pentaxes. Now noticing the differences between > the PZ1 and the PZ1p. Main ones seem to be, Z1 has 1fps drive less speed > (NoBigDeal), no red eye reduction(NBD), and no 2 sec mirror lock-up. On this > last one my ignorance shows What is a 2 sec mirror lock-up, and why > would I need, or want, to have it? > Oh, one more big difference. $100. (Aprox.) > Thanks, > Dosk > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
