Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
>Its mine too. What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a train/RR shot on said day and post there results.Yes no??? >Dave Weird. My birthday is the 29th. Unfortunately there are few trains around here. Marnie aka Doe :-) Which is besides the point because I don't have a 135, although I do have a zoom in that range.
Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
Stan scribed: I would suggest as an exercise that the next time > you go "training", you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but > details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...) > > on 9/12/03 10:53 AM, Paul Delcour at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its mine too. What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a train/RR shot on said day and post there results.Yes no??? Dave
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Stan Halpin: Hi Anders! I think I would half agree with Paul about your train photos. He says too touristic. For me that would mean that you are using cliche composition. I think the issue is rather that you are being a recorder of events rather than an artist. I haven't thought so much about my goal with these pictures, but when you say it, it may be that my aim is to record and document rather than being overly artistic. Or touristic, for that matter. In the case of the pictures from the abandoned railroad cars and tracks in the industrial park, the aim definitely was to document how the site once looked like; it is now torn down. For the excursion pictures, the aim is not that clear cut, but since these excursions are more or less one-off events, one of the most important reasons for taking pictures at all is to "save" what I experience during the ride. And it's quite hard to both photographing artistically and participarting in the excursion at the same time. I have thought of going to some railway on any ordinary day and then I'd have more room to concentrate on the images. "Touristic" to me means the classic "this is me in front of X, this is me in front of Y" pictures, and those I want to avoid :-) I would suggest as an exercise that the next time you go "training", you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...) Now, that would really be a challenge! I happen to have a 135 prime, but I very seldom use that, or the 135 position on my 28-200 zoom for that matter. I tend to use 28-50-200 most of the time. Maybe I should do some dedicated 135 mm exercises, just to get a feel for it. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
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Paul Delcour: I'd love to have railroad as a theme being a mad train lover myself, though, whenever I take pictures of trains myself I am never happy with the result. Somnehow I do not seem to have the feel for how to put them in the frame properly. O well, I'll just enjoy the real thing. What makes you unhappy with the results? I find that railroads are a bit tricky to take pictures of, since both cars and tracks are so very, very big. You can't back off to get a bigger picture since then you'll get unwanted objects in the foreground, often hiding the main thing, and if you use wide angle the perspective gets distorded and straight lines get inclined in a bad way. Here are some of my railroad pictures, feel free to comment. (The captions are in Swedish, but they mostly tell the names of places, and you'll get the picture anyway :-) Steam engine excursion on a Stockholm commuter railway. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-saltsj-1999 Steam engine excursion on another Stockholm commuter railway. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-nyn-2001 On picture 25 and 26 I drive the steam engine myself! Unfortunately the film wind lever on my newly bought used ProgramA jammed, so they are double exposed, and looks quite strange, but nevertheless... A mile long museum track, all what's left of the railways on Gotland island. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/dalhem-2002 Sweden's longest museum railway, a 20 mile/33 km narrow gauge track. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/lennakatten-2002 Steam engine excursion on a cargo track in Stockholm. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-vartan-2002 Abandoned railroad cars and tracks in a Stockholm industrial park. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/liljeholmen-1996 Delivery of a newly built subway car from the factory. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/C20-lil Building of a new tramline in Stockholm's southern suburbs. Delivery of a newly built subway car from the factory. http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/C20-gup anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
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P.S. Your best choice for automatic field fill in, is probably creating some drop down lists. You cam do this in the form wizard. Marnie aka Doe And "linking" your tables, as others have mentioned.
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Actually I met several picturesque coach drivers. They certainly displayed a conductor's sobriety. Anyone around? ;o) Servus,Alin Chris wrote: CS> Bus or Tram (at least in Europe) :-) >> "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Musical type conductor? If so, where. >> >> And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type??? >> (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!) CS> Chris "ding, ding all aboard".
Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
I'd love to have railroad as a theme being a mad train lover myself, though, whenever I take pictures of trains myself I am never happy with the result. Somnehow I do not seem to have the feel for how to put them in the frame properly. O well, I'll just enjoy the real thing. :-) Paul Delcour
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You'be amazed at much electricity I conduct when conducting... :-) Paul Delcour > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:52:49 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:54:14 -0400 > > "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Musical type conductor? If so, where. > > And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type??? > (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!) > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional >> >> >> If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they >> mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of >> course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good >> ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things >> than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly >> always outdo the amateur. >> >> :-) >> >> Paul Delcour >> >>> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600 >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery >>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400 >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Charlton Vaughan" >>> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I'm new to the group and have a question. I noticed in the gallery >>>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional". What is the >>>> criteria for Professional? Is this in regards to professional >>>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or >> >>>> what? Please give me a hint, thanks. >>> >>> Think about what the word "professional" means to you. >>> Then try to capture it in a single frame. >>> Good luck. >>> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery. >>> >>> William (blame this one on me) Robb >>> >> >> > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
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Hilversum and surrounding areas, Netherlands. :-) Paul > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:06:34 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:06:53 -0400 > > Musical type conductor? If so, where. > > Bill > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional > > > If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they > mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of > course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good > ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things > than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly > always outdo the amateur. > > :-) > > Paul Delcour > >> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600 >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery >> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Charlton Vaughan" >> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery >> >> >>> >>> I'm new to the group and have a question. I noticed in the gallery >>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional". What is the >>> criteria for Professional? Is this in regards to professional >>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or > >>> what? Please give me a hint, thanks. >> >> Think about what the word "professional" means to you. >> Then try to capture it in a single frame. >> Good luck. >> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery. >> >> William (blame this one on me) Robb >> > > >
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Bus or Tram (at least in Europe) :-) > "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Musical type conductor? If so, where. > > And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type??? > (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!) Chris "ding, ding all aboard".
RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
Railroad Bill -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Musical type conductor? If so, where. And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type??? (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!) >-Original Message- >From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional > > >If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they >mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of >course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good >ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things >than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly >always outdo the amateur. > >:-) > >Paul Delcour > >> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600 >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery >> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Charlton Vaughan" >> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery >> >> >>> >>> I'm new to the group and have a question. I noticed in the gallery >>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional". What is the >>> criteria for Professional? Is this in regards to professional >>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or > >>> what? Please give me a hint, thanks. >> >> Think about what the word "professional" means to you. >> Then try to capture it in a single frame. >> Good luck. >> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery. >> >> William (blame this one on me) Robb >> > > -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Musical type conductor? If so, where. And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type??? (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!) >-Original Message- >From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional > > >If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they >mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of >course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good >ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things >than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly >always outdo the amateur. > >:-) > >Paul Delcour > >> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600 >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery >> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Charlton Vaughan" >> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery >> >> >>> >>> I'm new to the group and have a question. I noticed in the gallery >>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional". What is the >>> criteria for Professional? Is this in regards to professional >>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or > >>> what? Please give me a hint, thanks. >> >> Think about what the word "professional" means to you. >> Then try to capture it in a single frame. >> Good luck. >> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery. >> >> William (blame this one on me) Robb >> > > -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Musical type conductor? If so, where. Bill -Original Message- From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly always outdo the amateur. :-) Paul Delcour > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Charlton Vaughan" > Subject: Pentax Users Gallery > > >> >> I'm new to the group and have a question. I noticed in the gallery >> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional". What is the >> criteria for Professional? Is this in regards to professional >> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or >> what? Please give me a hint, thanks. > > Think about what the word "professional" means to you. > Then try to capture it in a single frame. > Good luck. > I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery. > > William (blame this one on me) Robb >
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If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly always outdo the amateur. :-) Paul Delcour > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Charlton Vaughan" > Subject: Pentax Users Gallery > > >> >> I'm new to the group and have a question. I noticed in the gallery this >> coming month's gallery theme is "Professional". What is the criteria for >> Professional? Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs >> of a profession or speaks of a profession or what? Please give me a hint, >> thanks. > > Think about what the word "professional" means to you. > Then try to capture it in a single frame. > Good luck. > I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery. > > William (blame this one on me) Robb >
