Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-20 Thread Alan C 
I began digital with a K110D which had quite a noisy sensor & later 
found the K7 much the same. Mind you, they both did quite well at low 
ISO. My K5 is a vast improvement.


Alan C

On 20-Jan-20 09:37 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 20.01.20 um 19:36 schrieb Paul Stenquist:

Regardless of how much ink the K20D received the K10D was a better 
camera.


It most definitely was. The K20D was, as we say in German, the
difference between well done and well meant. So was the K-7. Lost years.

Boy, was I glad when this Samsung episode was over at last and I got my
K-5. Even if it had to be exchanged several times before I got one
without the sensor problem.

I can still identify my photos taken with the K20D and the K-7 just by
their noise.

Ralf

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Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-20 Thread Ralf R Radermacher 

Am 20.01.20 um 19:36 schrieb Paul Stenquist:


Regardless of how much ink the K20D received the K10D was a better camera.


It most definitely was. The K20D was, as we say in German, the
difference between well done and well meant. So was the K-7. Lost years.

Boy, was I glad when this Samsung episode was over at last and I got my
K-5. Even if it had to be exchanged several times before I got one
without the sensor problem.

I can still identify my photos taken with the K20D and the K-7 just by
their noise.

Ralf

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Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-20 Thread Paul Stenquist 
Regardless of how much ink the K20D received the K10D was a better camera. The 
6x7 was a favorite of  New York fashion photographers. It undoubtedly had more 
pro cred than any other Pentax camera.
Paul

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 3:42 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure that I disagree with their list.  The K1000 yes, but really 
> it's frame was pretty much the same as any Spotmatic, (especially the F who's 
> electronics are actually interchangeable), just with a K mount, (as were the 
> KM, the KX having an improved faster reacting SPD metering system).
> 
> The 6x7, there's nothing else really nothing else like it, but that's sort of 
> the problem, it's influence on the industry was fairly low.
> 
> The K10D was and is still great, but the K20D got twice the Buzz, I remember 
> articles about the K20D being Pentax's big turnaround...
> 
> The LX was and is a great camera system, but it's influence was also pretty 
> limited on the industry.
> 
> The Auto 110 also had very limited influence, or should we say no influence.
> 
> They ignore the firsts, or mention them simply in passing, (which weren't 
> always firsts, but sometimes seconds, abet in much higher quality longer 
> lasting camera bodies), that did have lasting influence on the industry.
> 
> The first, (actually second, but few remember the first), use of a Pentaprism 
> in an SLR.
> 
> The first announced, (though, second released), TTL metering system.
> 
> The first released AF SLR.
> 
> The first Aperture Priority auto exposure SLR.
> 
> The MZ-D, which was never released, but could have been the first FF 35mm 
> DSLR, (overshadowed by the Kodak and Canon FF cameras that were released).  
> Which might have been the best decision, based on what happened to the Contex 
> DSLR using the same sensor...
> 
>> On 1/18/2020 7:22 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 18/1/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> Pentax Week on DP Review with a 2nd video, this time on the most
>>> important cameras...
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just watched - interesting. Cameras covered:
>> 
>> Pentax K1000
>> Asahi Pentax 6X7
>> Pentax LX
>> Pentax Auto 110
>> Pentax K10D
>> Pentax 645Z
>> 
>> MX gets a nod.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> idiot to use a Pentax.
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Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I do agree with them that the  Asahi Pentax 6X7 is one of the very best.  I
was certainly, considering its time, the best camera I ever owned.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 3:42 PM P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that I disagree with their list.  The K1000 yes, but
> really it's frame was pretty much the same as any Spotmatic, (especially
> the F who's electronics are actually interchangeable), just with a K
> mount, (as were the KM, the KX having an improved faster reacting SPD
> metering system).
>
> The 6x7, there's nothing else really nothing else like it, but that's
> sort of the problem, it's influence on the industry was fairly low.
>
> The K10D was and is still great, but the K20D got twice the Buzz, I
> remember articles about the K20D being Pentax's big turnaround...
>
> The LX was and is a great camera system, but it's influence was also
> pretty limited on the industry.
>
> The Auto 110 also had very limited influence, or should we say no
> influence.
>
> They ignore the firsts, or mention them simply in passing, (which
> weren't always firsts, but sometimes seconds, abet in much higher
> quality longer lasting camera bodies), that did have lasting influence
> on the industry.
>
> The first, (actually second, but few remember the first), use of a
> Pentaprism in an SLR.
>
> The first announced, (though, second released), TTL metering system.
>
> The first released AF SLR.
>
> The first Aperture Priority auto exposure SLR.
>
> The MZ-D, which was never released, but could have been the first FF
> 35mm DSLR, (overshadowed by the Kodak and Canon FF cameras that were
> released).  Which might have been the best decision, based on what
> happened to the Contex DSLR using the same sensor...
>
> On 1/18/2020 7:22 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > On 18/1/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> Pentax Week on DP Review with a 2nd video, this time on the most
> >> important cameras...
> >>
> > <
> https://www.dpreview.com/videos/2118051964/dpreview-tv-the-most-important-pentax-cameras-of-all-time
> >
> >
> > Just watched - interesting. Cameras covered:
> >
> > Pentax K1000
> > Asahi Pentax 6X7
> > Pentax LX
> > Pentax Auto 110
> > Pentax K10D
> > Pentax 645Z
> >
> > MX gets a nod.
> >
> >
> >
> --
> Any idiot can shoot with a Canon, Nikon, or Sony, it takes a special kind
> of idiot to use a Pentax.
>
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Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-19 Thread P. J. Alling 
I'm pretty sure that I disagree with their list.  The K1000 yes, but 
really it's frame was pretty much the same as any Spotmatic, (especially 
the F who's electronics are actually interchangeable), just with a K 
mount, (as were the KM, the KX having an improved faster reacting SPD 
metering system).


The 6x7, there's nothing else really nothing else like it, but that's 
sort of the problem, it's influence on the industry was fairly low.


The K10D was and is still great, but the K20D got twice the Buzz, I 
remember articles about the K20D being Pentax's big turnaround...


The LX was and is a great camera system, but it's influence was also 
pretty limited on the industry.


The Auto 110 also had very limited influence, or should we say no influence.

They ignore the firsts, or mention them simply in passing, (which 
weren't always firsts, but sometimes seconds, abet in much higher 
quality longer lasting camera bodies), that did have lasting influence 
on the industry.


The first, (actually second, but few remember the first), use of a 
Pentaprism in an SLR.


The first announced, (though, second released), TTL metering system.

The first released AF SLR.

The first Aperture Priority auto exposure SLR.

The MZ-D, which was never released, but could have been the first FF 
35mm DSLR, (overshadowed by the Kodak and Canon FF cameras that were 
released).  Which might have been the best decision, based on what 
happened to the Contex DSLR using the same sensor...


On 1/18/2020 7:22 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 18/1/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:


Pentax Week on DP Review with a 2nd video, this time on the most
important cameras...




Just watched - interesting. Cameras covered:

Pentax K1000
Asahi Pentax 6X7
Pentax LX
Pentax Auto 110
Pentax K10D
Pentax 645Z

MX gets a nod.




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Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I think the most important Pentax was the Spotmatic.  I used my Asahi
Spotty for 20 years!  Great Camera.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:22 AM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 18/1/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Pentax Week on DP Review with a 2nd video, this time on the most
> >important cameras...
> >
> <
> https://www.dpreview.com/videos/2118051964/dpreview-tv-the-most-important-pentax-cameras-of-all-time
> >
>
> Just watched - interesting. Cameras covered:
>
> Pentax K1000
> Asahi Pentax 6X7
> Pentax LX
> Pentax Auto 110
> Pentax K10D
> Pentax 645Z
>
> MX gets a nod.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
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Re: Pentax Week on DPR

2020-01-18 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 18/1/20, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Pentax Week on DP Review with a 2nd video, this time on the most
>important cameras...
>


Just watched - interesting. Cameras covered:

Pentax K1000
Asahi Pentax 6X7
Pentax LX
Pentax Auto 110
Pentax K10D
Pentax 645Z

MX gets a nod.



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