Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
Igor, I had exactly the same experience with that 17-70 on my K5. Now for K1,I use often the Sigma 28-105/2.8-4 that I bought long ago for my Z-1. I hope Sigma will make their 24-105 available for Pentax, and I am very curious how the IQ of that lens would be compared to Pentax 28-105 and the Pentax 24-70 . Price wise that SIGMA would be in between the two Pentaxes. Greetz, Jos Greetz, Jos On 22-Jul-16 17:21, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I am not on the market for these lenses at the moment. But if I were, I'd be torn. My current "most universal" lens (i.e. the one that is attached by default) on K5-IIs is 17-70, which provides the FOV similar to the full-frame camera with 25-105. And I am using the wide end much more often than the long end of the range. But every so often, I enjoy that extra reach to 70 (105), even though the image quality is a bit lower there. If I have time, I am switching to 50-135 for the longer range, but for a quick grab, 17-70 does a reasonable job @50-70mm. So, ideally I'd want 24-105. :-) But with what is available, if the price wasn't in the consideration, I'd choose 24-70, primarily due to the wide end. f/2.8 is an added bonus. With the Pentax film camera, my first and "primary" lens was Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8, and I bought that for the speed and for the good IQ optimized for the price. I was missing on the wide end, and that's why I bought Tokina 18-35 (or was it 19-35?). Igor Gonz Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:20:17 -0700 wrote: The reviews on B&H are very positive for both lenses, with lots of praise for the 28-105's sharpness. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Gonz wrote: Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 aperture, is the image quality that much better? I'm curious too. I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens. Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've had dry weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I need the faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach. I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 28-75/2.8 you can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less than the 24-70. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
I am not on the market for these lenses at the moment. But if I were, I'd be torn. My current "most universal" lens (i.e. the one that is attached by default) on K5-IIs is 17-70, which provides the FOV similar to the full-frame camera with 25-105. And I am using the wide end much more often than the long end of the range. But every so often, I enjoy that extra reach to 70 (105), even though the image quality is a bit lower there. If I have time, I am switching to 50-135 for the longer range, but for a quick grab, 17-70 does a reasonable job @50-70mm. So, ideally I'd want 24-105. :-) But with what is available, if the price wasn't in the consideration, I'd choose 24-70, primarily due to the wide end. f/2.8 is an added bonus. With the Pentax film camera, my first and "primary" lens was Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8, and I bought that for the speed and for the good IQ optimized for the price. I was missing on the wide end, and that's why I bought Tokina 18-35 (or was it 19-35?). Igor Gonz Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:20:17 -0700 wrote: The reviews on B&H are very positive for both lenses, with lots of praise for the 28-105's sharpness. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Gonz wrote: Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 aperture, is the image quality that much better? I'm curious too. I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens. Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've had dry weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I need the faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach. I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 28-75/2.8 you can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less than the 24-70. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
Here is the comparable review for the 24-70: http://tinyurl.com/jt8lwv7 The 2.8 aperture and prolly the nicer bokeh are things to consider over the 28-105. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Gonz wrote: > Well given the outstanding review given here: > http://tinyurl.com/zhprgcx, I would say that unless you want to blow > up your pics to wall size, this lens will fulfill most requirements > (28-105) and is a heck of a lot more affordable. > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Gonz wrote: >> No, I'm in the Austin, Tx area. >> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> Gonz wrote: Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 aperture, is the image quality that much better? >>> >>> >>> Aren't you in the bay area? You're welcome to come over and try mine for >>> yourself sometime. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- Reduce your Government Footprint > > > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
Well given the outstanding review given here: http://tinyurl.com/zhprgcx, I would say that unless you want to blow up your pics to wall size, this lens will fulfill most requirements (28-105) and is a heck of a lot more affordable. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Gonz wrote: > No, I'm in the Austin, Tx area. > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> Gonz wrote: >>> >>> Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is >>> almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 >>> aperture, is the image quality that much better? >> >> >> Aren't you in the bay area? You're welcome to come over and try mine for >> yourself sometime. >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
Gonz wrote: Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 aperture, is the image quality that much better? I'm curious too. I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens. Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've had dry weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I need the faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach. I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 28-75/2.8 you can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less than the 24-70. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
No, I'm in the Austin, Tx area. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Gonz wrote: >> >> Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is >> almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 >> aperture, is the image quality that much better? > > > Aren't you in the bay area? You're welcome to come over and try mine for > yourself sometime. > > >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
The reviews on B&H are very positive for both lenses, with lots of praise for the 28-105's sharpness. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Gonz wrote: >> >> Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is >> almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 >> aperture, is the image quality that much better? > > > I'm curious too. I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens. > Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've had dry > weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I need the > faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach. > > I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 28-75/2.8 you > can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less than the > 24-70. > >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70
Gonz wrote: Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them? The 24-70 is almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8 aperture, is the image quality that much better? Aren't you in the bay area? You're welcome to come over and try mine for yourself sometime. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
