Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Daniel J. Matyola

On the contrary, courts in my jurisdiction frequently admit drawing of
the scene of a crime or an accident, as well as many other illustrations
drawn by hand or computer.  Like everyone else, judges know that
photographs can be altered, and for that reason they are never admitted
on their own, but only after a person testifies, under oath, that the
photo is an accurate depiction of what it purports to show,

I asked my lawyer about this and he pretty much confirmed the above (this
applies to U.S. law only, obviously): The photo, digital or traditional,
isn't really worth anything as evidence in and of itself; what's important
is the testimony of witnesses who swear under oath that the image is an
accurate depiction of whatever it's intended to show. Subsequently, either
traditional or digital photographs are acceptable. I didn't ask about drawings
but what you describe makes sense.


Mishka wrote:

 photographs are accepted in courts as evidence.
 paintings are not.
 have no idea about digital.
 this sorts it out, doesn't it?

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

I first saw this photo some time ago, when it won the World Press prize
for science photos, but it still knocks my socks off everytime is see
it.  I've taken shots of one fighter jet from another, and they are
always difficult.  This one is damn near perfect, and, of course, he was
skillful enough (and perhaps lucky enough) to catch the decisive
moment.  If fact, this picture could serve as a definition of the
decisive moment!
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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-10 Thread Mishka

photographs are accepted in courts as evidence. 
paintings are not.
have no idea about digital.
this sorts it out, doesn't it?

best,

mishka

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-10 Thread William Robb

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 photographs are accepted in courts as evidence.
 paintings are not.
 have no idea about digital.
 this sorts it out, doesn't it?

Photographs are only accepted in the courts (Canadian, anyway)
under the following provisos:
1) The photographer testifies that the photograph is an accurate
representation of what was seen through the viewfinder.
2) The original negative is produced as evidence, and all people
who handled the negative, from the moment it hit the lab for
processing right down to the lawyers mistress swear that this is
the negative used to produce the print being used as evidence,
and that absolutely no manipulation of the image was done.

Been there, gone to court for it.

3) Digital imaging, because of the lack of negative, and the
ease with which seamless manipulations can be accomplished, have
no legal standing before the courts.
This sorts it out.

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

On the contrary, courts in my jurisdiction frequently admit drawing of
the scene of a crime or an accident, as well as many other illustrations
drawn by hand or computer.  Like everyone else, judges know that
photographs can be altered, and for that reason they are never admitted
on their own, but only after a person testifies, under oath, that the
photo is an accurate depiction of what it purports to show,

Mishka wrote:

 photographs are accepted in courts as evidence.
 paintings are not.
 have no idea about digital.
 this sorts it out, doesn't it?

 best,

 mishka

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-09 Thread William Robb

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 On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 09:21:39 -0600, William Robb wrote:

 Chech the time tags on the mpeg. The effect is cool, but the
 capture of it on film wouldn't have been terribly hard.

 Yup. Nothing that a PZ-1p wouldn't handle :-)

Hell, an ME with an autowinder would probably have gotten
something nice.

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-08 Thread frank theriault

Let me add to the chorus:

Very Cool!  And, he set his N to all-manual!

-frank

Steve Pearson wrote:

 That's way cool!  Talk about perfect timing!


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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-07 Thread Steve Pearson

That's way cool!  Talk about perfect timing!

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-07 Thread Fred

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Reminds me of a somewhat similar painting, Shel:

http://www.theinkshoppe.com/eye2n.jpg

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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-07 Thread Mishka

beyond cool -- simply unbelievable! 
thanks, Shel!

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 Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:59:55 -0700 
 
 
 That's way cool!  Talk about perfect timing!
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Re: Photo of Jet Breaking the Sound Barrier

2002-06-07 Thread Paul Stenquist

Wow! An awesome photograph.

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