Re: More UPS bashing: Re: Purchasing a second body
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" Subject: Re: More UPS bashing: Re: Purchasing a second body > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, graywolf wrote: > > > There the package was sitting directly under the doorbell button that > > apparently it was too much work for the driver to press. > > That's when you call UPS and ream them out because your package hasn't > arrived yet. They can't provide a signature for proof of delivery. :) It works for avoiding customs charges too. Although in my instance, the delivery wasn't actually made, since the parcel wasn't on my property when I found it. William Robb
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I'd second the nomination of the MZ/ZX 5n/5 as they have virtually the same layout as your existing camera. Nick
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Bill will like this story which supports his view of UPS. I ordered something fairly cheap that I could not buy locally. The only way they would ship was UPS 2nd Day Air, just about doubled the cost. Anyway I went to the UPS tracking site to see about what time UPS would deliver it, and it said it was delivered a couple of hours earlier. "I've been here all morning", I said to myself, and opened the door. There the package was sitting directly under the doorbell button that apparently it was too much work for the driver to press. I live in an apartment building with individual entrances that is mostly college students and public assistance types, just to put this into proper perspective. Worse, if I was working that package would have sat there out in the open from 9am to 6pm, or until some passerby decided to pick it up. -- frank theriault wrote: H... That would work on t-shirts, Bill. You'd sell a boatload of 'em. -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dreaming of a UPS free world. _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Alan Chan posted: > How about pink colour LIMITED for ladies? YESH! sez this lady (at least, I hope to pretend to be a lady sometimes) ERN
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How about pink colour LIMITED for ladies? Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Pentax's marketing strategy has been revealed. Now they have to think up something else. Way to go John. _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Another world 1st I supposed? Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan They were hoping you'd buy four. John _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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They were hoping you'd buy four. John On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:39:43 -0800, Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is quite common to have 2 names for some Pentax cameras, but 4??? What were they thinking? Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Let it be clear , MZ-6, ZX-L, ZX-6, and MZ-L are different names of the same body. I've no idea where is natural habitat of each of these names, but the body is the same. _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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H... That would work on t-shirts, Bill. You'd sell a boatload of 'em. -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dreaming of a UPS free world. _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Thanks, Peter. I actually "knew" that, but it didn't pop up when I was thinking about the various names. A minor retrieval problem...faulty RAM, you know. keith Peter J. Alling wrote: It's the MZ-6 in Europe. Many of your nomenclature questions can be answered here: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ Keith Whaley wrote: I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. [...]
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It's the MZ-6 in Europe. Many of your nomenclature questions can be answered here: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ Keith Whaley wrote: I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty,& GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
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Morgan said: > I've owned a ZX-M for about three years now and suddenly decided that I > wanted to be able to do rear-curtain sync flash photography. ... > I learned of all the merits of the AF-500 FTZ flash unit. So, I purchased > it online (used, at half the price). > > Imagine my surprise when I got my fancy flash unit home and suddenly learned > there is a difference between TTL metering and TTL flash metering... This > flash unit is great. Too bad I can only use it manually. > > So, I need a new body. I can't really afford a new one, and I don't mind > using old equipment at all. I'm just a bit confused about what to purchase. > > I shoot almost exclusively in manual mode. I don't really see myself using > any fancy automatic programmed picture type settings. I do need a good > meter reading in the viewfinder, quick shutter/aperture adjustment, the > ability to do exposure compensation, and of course--support for my new > flash. > > I've been thinking that perhaps I should purchase a used PZ-20. Any > suggestions? My suggestion, if you can find one in your affordability range, is a ZX-5n. There'll be practically no "learning curve" going to that camera from a ZX-M. In fact, you might consider replacing your -M with the -5n if you need to squeeze some extra bucks from somewhere. ERN
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At 03:51 AM 15/03/2004 -0800, you wrote: Good info - thanks! Re the cost, is there some built-in tax or other DIS-advantage to buying that camera in OZ, vs. the U.S.? Other than currency exchange numbers? What _would_ the MZ-6 cost in OZ? keith I cannot comment on this particular camera, as I have no idea how much it costs, but for the last 5 or 6 years we have been buying from the US, as OZ was not very competitive. We purchased flashes, bodies, lenses, even film. We saved thousands of dollars that way. what it cost us buying from the States was approx 60-70% of the OZ cost. and that includes all postage (FedEx) taxes and other fees. As we can claim it on tax, there is no point for us to smuggle it in, saving 10% on GST. HOWEVER when purchasing *istD it was cheaper to buy here. The cost was the same in figures, but once you take into account the exchange rates, buying in US was ~30% more expensive + postage + tax. But now US is more competitive again. (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good info - thanks! Re the cost, is there some built-in tax or other DIS-advantage to buying that camera in OZ, vs. the U.S.? Other than currency exchange numbers? What _would_ the MZ-6 cost in OZ? keith Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day Keith. Mate, In Australia the camera sold here is the MZ-6. The MZ-6 is also sold in europe and Canada as the MZ-6. However, They are scarce as hens teeth second hand & too expensive to buy new. I bought the U.S. ZX-L which is the exact same camera, Just a different model name on it. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton OZ -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty,& GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
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G'day Keith. Mate, In Australia the camera sold here is the MZ-6. The MZ-6 is also sold in europe and Canada as the MZ-6. However, They are scarce as hens teeth second hand & too expensive to buy new. I bought the U.S. ZX-L which is the exact same camera, Just a different model name on it. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton OZ -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: > G'day All. > I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. > > The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs > duty,& GST cost more that the ZX-L. > > I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The > next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. > > The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. > Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) > > Hooroo. > Regards, Trevor > Grafton, OZ > > -Original Message- > From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body > >>Find a ZX/MZ-L >>It suits your need very nicely... > > > I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit > MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, > this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and > seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is > cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free > to ask, including off-list. > > HTH. > > Boris > > > > >
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Hi! Let it be clear , MZ-6, ZX-L, ZX-6, and MZ-L are different names of the same body. I've no idea where is natural habitat of each of these names, but the body is the same. Boris
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I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty,& GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
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G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty,& GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Hi! >Find a ZX/MZ-L >It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
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You might also consider the PZ-1p/Z-1p. US$300 will buy you a mint one. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Hi! Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
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Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Morgan Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Purchasing a second body Hello everyone! This is my first post to the list so please excuse any "dumbness" on my part... I've owned a ZX-M for about three years now and suddenly decided that I wanted to be able to do rear-curtain sync flash photography. Since I knew nothing about flash photography in general, I went down to my local Wolf Camera and started asking questions. Using my strategy of "Here's-the-camera-that-I-own-I'll-pretend-to-come-in-and-purchase-this-next -week-I-just-need-to-know-what-I-should-get," I learned of all the merits of the AF-500 FTZ flash unit. So, I purchased it online (used, at half the price). Imagine my surprise when I got my fancy flash unit home and suddenly learned there is a difference between TTL metering and TTL flash metering... This flash unit is great. Too bad I can only use it manually. So, I need a new body. I can't really afford a new one, and I don't mind using old equipment at all. I'm just a bit confused about what to purchase. I shoot almost exclusively in manual mode. I don't really see myself using any fancy automatic programmed picture type settings. I do need a good meter reading in the viewfinder, quick shutter/aperture adjustment, the ability to do exposure compensation, and of course--support for my new flash. I've been thinking that perhaps I should purchase a used PZ-20. Any suggestions? Also, are there any differences with PZ-20 vs. Z-20? As far as I can tell they are the same. Thanks in advance, -Morgan _ Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
