Re: Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

2009-11-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jens

I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give
up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I
don't submit phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless.


I don't think it works quite that way. You retain the rights, and 
Facebook won't take your image for their own uses.


But they won't do anything to keep third parties from misappropriating 
your image, and apparently they strip out the metadata including 
copyright information.


Their Terms of Service just keep you from suing them if some third party 
misappropriates your image from their site.


You can always put a copyright or watermark in the image itself.

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Re: Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

2009-11-12 Thread Jens
I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give up all 
rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. So, I don't submit 
phographjs to Facebook unless they are nearly useless.

Regards
Jens

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On Nov 12, 2009 20:41 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 wrote:
  John Sessoms wrote:
 
 From: Bran Everseeking
  A friend twittered this and I found the facebook part to be true
  at
  least.
 
  http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/11/warning-facebook-and-myspace-strip
  -photo-copyright-data.html
 
 Goes back to earlier concerns regarding that Orphaned Works
 copyright
 legislation.
 
 Someone pulls your image off one of the sites without your
 permission,
 someone else takes it from them ... and pretty soon anyone can take
 
 use your image for commercial purposes without compensating you.
 
 It's already happened; some teenage girl's myspace photo ended up
 being
 used by an Australian cell phone company for their ad campaign.
 
  That was a different issue: The photographer himself put the photo
  on
  Flickr and gave it Creative Commons *commercial* licensing (without
  understanding what this meant).
 
 
 And the idiots at the ad agency forgot the difference between
 clearing
 copyright and ensuring they had model releases. CC only covers you on
 copyright.
 
 The Photog in that case was mildly silly, the ad agency was just
 frikkin stupid for not realizing they needed model releases for CC
 images from Flickr just like any other image they might use with a
 identifiable individual.
 
 
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Re: Re: facebook totally strip metadata from uploaded pics

2009-11-12 Thread Jens
Thanks Mark
This makes me feel a little better :-)
Regards
Jens 

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On Nov 12, 2009 22:01 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Jens wrote:
 I have read, that whenever you submit an image to Facebook, you give
 
 up all rights to yopur photo. It now belongs 100 % to Facebook. 
 
 Wrong.
 
 Facebook gets the right to use the image for promoting Facebook. And
 only as long as you have the image *on* Facebook. As soon as you
 remove it, they lose these rights. Pretty reasonable for a free
 service.
 
 A few months ago they tried to change their TOS to allow them to use
 your image (including for purposes beyond promotion and advertising)
 even after you took it down, but there was such an outcry that they
 backed down very quickly. This incident is probably at the root of
 the
 you give up all rights urban legend. Even that overzealous TOS
 didn't make the photographer give up all rights (the photographer
 could still copy, sell, modify, license the image).
 
 Also, if your photos on Facebook have recognizable people in them,
 Facebook would still have to get a model release. See the
 Flickr/Virgin Mobile fiasco already mentioned in this thread :)
 
 
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