Re: This is EFFED-UP!
Yeah, John (and Joe Tainter, too) I'm kind of stuck here since Earthlink can't seem to get themselves out of the spam business. I can't request a whitelist because of their ongoing inability to police their servers. Our host won't go for it, for obvious reasons. On 6/26/18 3:34 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks like I'm stuck using Yahoo if I want to reply to something or post a new message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is EFFED-UP!
While I understand all the problems and sympathize to the people experiencing it, the recurrence of them gives me an impression that people have some sort of masochistic pleasure from experiencing these problems. There is no reason to get stuck with Earthlink, Yahoo, or any others. Even if you are receiving all your e-mail to that address, One can have a separate account for PDML that would work well with PDML. And it is easy to setup multiple accounts in Thunderbird. I'd say Gmail would be a good candidate (even for the people who otherwise wouldn't be using it). But for those who refuse anything G on principle, gmx.com is a good option. Another option that I would suggest considering is zoho.com . They have their own free mail. Additionally, you can even host your own domain at no cost for hosting (you can register a domain, say, on name.com for some $10-15 a year), - so that you can use an address like j...@yourownlovelynameddomain.com . HTH, Igor Doug Brewer Tue, 26 Jun 2018 12:48:49 -0700 wrote: Yeah, John (and Joe Tainter, too) I'm kind of stuck here since Earthlink can't seem to get themselves out of the spam business. I can't request a whitelist because of their ongoing inability to police their servers. Our host won't go for it, for obvious reasons. On 6/26/18 3:34 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks like I'm stuck using Yahoo if I want to reply to something or post a new message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is EFFED-UP!
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > While I understand all the problems and sympathize to the people > experiencing it, the recurrence of them gives me an impression that people > have some sort of masochistic pleasure from experiencing these problems. Well, you _are_ addressing a group of long-time Pentax users. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: This is EFFED-UP!
Am I missing something? I can never understand the reluctance to use Microsoft's mail systems: I've been using Outlook for more years than I care to remember, and seldom have any problems. When away, I have used Live Mail, and while not as good as Outlook, it works! On Outlook, I have set up rules to move emails from the PDML to their own folder, and have other rules for client emails - all of which have worked for years without issue. My wife, however, uses an iPad, and the mail system on those is primitive by comparison, and last month reloaded emails from 3 years ago! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2018 5:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: This is EFFED-UP! I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks like I'm stuck using Yahoo if I want to reply to something or post a new message. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. Sent from my Yahoo account because SpamEatingMonkey has blacklisted Earthlink's email servers *AGAIN*. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is EFFED-UP!
Yeah, I know it's not your fault. It's the Earthlink customer who keeps sending out the SPAM that's getting them blacklisted. On 6/26/2018 15:47, Doug Brewer wrote: Yeah, John (and Joe Tainter, too) I'm kind of stuck here since Earthlink can't seem to get themselves out of the spam business. I can't request a whitelist because of their ongoing inability to police their servers. Our host won't go for it, for obvious reasons. On 6/26/18 3:34 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks like I'm stuck using Yahoo if I want to reply to something or post a new message. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. Sent from my Yahoo account because SpamEatingMonkey has blacklisted Earthlink's email servers *AGAIN*. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is EFFED-UP!
Can't speak for anyone else, but AFAIK Outlook is only available as part of Micro$oft Office; the latest version of which doesn't work with Windoze7. Down-level versions that do work with Windoze7 are not available and are not supported. After the hell I went through with Windoze10, I'm not inclined to pay Micro$oft for software that I have to learn all over again, especially when experience tells me that even if I could get it to work, it won't let me do things the way I want to do them. I've been using the mail client from Netscape and its descendants (aka Thunderbird) since 1994. Thunderbird works just fine. The problems are all with the email providers, not with the software I use to send & receive email. Right now, Yahoo is the least problematic email provider I can use with PDML. I would use it exclusively if I could figure how out to get it to echo my own submissions to the list back to my Yahoo inbox so messages would thread properly. And *NOT* Gmail either. Google is already far too intrusive. I'd ditch Google and Google+ in a heartbeat if could find a way to do it without losing YouTube. I might as well sell my soul to fakebook and be done with it. On 6/26/2018 22:28, John Coyle wrote: Am I missing something? I can never understand the reluctance to use Microsoft's mail systems: I've been using Outlook for more years than I care to remember, and seldom have any problems. When away, I have used Live Mail, and while not as good as Outlook, it works! On Outlook, I have set up rules to move emails from the PDML to their own folder, and have other rules for client emails - all of which have worked for years without issue. My wife, however, uses an iPad, and the mail system on those is primitive by comparison, and last month reloaded emails from 3 years ago! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2018 5:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: This is EFFED-UP! I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks like I'm stuck using Yahoo if I want to reply to something or post a new message. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. Sent from my Yahoo account because SpamEatingMonkey has blacklisted Earthlink's email servers *AGAIN*. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is EFFED-UP!
You can use any client you like on any OS with Outlook or Hotmail, and continue to use your existing email addresses. Mine are all Outlook / Hotmail. I've been with Hotmail since it started, long before MS bought it. > On 27 Jun 2018, at 15:03, John Sessoms wrote: > > Can't speak for anyone else, but AFAIK Outlook is only available as part of > Micro$oft Office; the latest version of which doesn't work with Windoze7. > Down-level versions that do work with Windoze7 are not available and are not > supported. > > After the hell I went through with Windoze10, I'm not inclined to pay > Micro$oft for software that I have to learn all over again, especially when > experience tells me that even if I could get it to work, it won't let me do > things the way I want to do them. > > I've been using the mail client from Netscape and its descendants (aka > Thunderbird) since 1994. Thunderbird works just fine. > > The problems are all with the email providers, not with the software I use to > send & receive email. > > Right now, Yahoo is the least problematic email provider I can use with PDML. > I would use it exclusively if I could figure how out to get it to echo my own > submissions to the list back to my Yahoo inbox so messages would thread > properly. > > And *NOT* Gmail either. > > Google is already far too intrusive. I'd ditch Google and Google+ in a > heartbeat if could find a way to do it without losing YouTube. I might as > well sell my soul to fakebook and be done with it. > > >> On 6/26/2018 22:28, John Coyle wrote: >> Am I missing something? I can never understand the reluctance to use >> Microsoft's mail systems: I've >> been using Outlook for more years than I care to remember, and seldom have >> any problems. When away, >> I have used Live Mail, and while not as good as Outlook, it works! >> On Outlook, I have set up rules to move emails from the PDML to their own >> folder, and have other >> rules for client emails - all of which have worked for years without issue. >> My wife, however, uses an iPad, and the mail system on those is primitive by >> comparison, and last >> month reloaded emails from 3 years ago! >> John in Brisbane >> -Original Message- >> From: PDML On Behalf Of John Sessoms >> Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2018 5:34 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: This is EFFED-UP! >> I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks like I'm >> stuck using Yahoo if I >> want to reply to something or post a new message. > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > Sent from my Yahoo account because SpamEatingMonkey has blacklisted > Earthlink's email servers *AGAIN*. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: This is EFFED-UP!
I have no idea why you have had problems with Outlook under W7 (and later versions). I've used it with every version of Windows except 8.x: I suspect you may not have allowed upgrades to happen when required, as I know many people do not. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:02 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: This is EFFED-UP! Can't speak for anyone else, but AFAIK Outlook is only available as part of Micro$oft Office; the latest version of which doesn't work with Windoze7. Down-level versions that do work with Windoze7 are not available and are not supported. After the hell I went through with Windoze10, I'm not inclined to pay Micro$oft for software that I have to learn all over again, especially when experience tells me that even if I could get it to work, it won't let me do things the way I want to do them. I've been using the mail client from Netscape and its descendants (aka Thunderbird) since 1994. Thunderbird works just fine. The problems are all with the email providers, not with the software I use to send & receive email. Right now, Yahoo is the least problematic email provider I can use with PDML. I would use it exclusively if I could figure how out to get it to echo my own submissions to the list back to my Yahoo inbox so messages would thread properly. And *NOT* Gmail either. Google is already far too intrusive. I'd ditch Google and Google+ in a heartbeat if could find a way to do it without losing YouTube. I might as well sell my soul to fakebook and be done with it. On 6/26/2018 22:28, John Coyle wrote: > Am I missing something? I can never understand the reluctance to use > Microsoft's mail systems: I've been using Outlook for more years than > I care to remember, and seldom have any problems. When away, I have used > Live Mail, and while not as good as Outlook, it works! > On Outlook, I have set up rules to move emails from the PDML to their > own folder, and have other rules for client emails - all of which have worked > for years without issue. > My wife, however, uses an iPad, and the mail system on those is > primitive by comparison, and last month reloaded emails from 3 years ago! > > John in Brisbane > > > > -Original Message- > From: PDML On Behalf Of John Sessoms > Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2018 5:34 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: This is EFFED-UP! > > I can still use Earthlink to read messages from PDML, but it looks > like I'm stuck using Yahoo if I want to reply to something or post a new > message. > > -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. Sent from my Yahoo account because SpamEatingMonkey has blacklisted Earthlink's email servers *AGAIN*. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
