Re: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
On 12/17/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I assume this has happened before. So I'm asking the old timers. What did you do to get the list back on track again? snip It pretty much rights itself after some time. The whiners/trolls/strident ones eventually become fatigued and just go away or get quiet, and soon enough all's forgotten. The arguments eventually die down and some sense of normalcy (such as it is) returns. Be patient. Some like to unsub for a couple of weeks or a month while waiting for the calm. I prefer just not going to certain threads, deleting them, and neither reading nor responding to those who I find frustrating. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
On 18/12/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/12/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking. I really dislike the free spirit of the list being polluted. What is going on is more than the regular friendly spirited flames. I assume this has happened before. So I'm asking the old timers. What did you do to get the list back on track again? And please folks, don't give me this it is all NN's fault again, that is childish and unconstructive. Please excuse my plain tone. Some times I believe in being strait forward. Just try to ignore it and the puss will clear up and it will eventually be normal again. If you are having difficulties doing that then a filter or two may help, or alternately, put your fingers in your ears and shout out na, na na, na... :-) I've tried that, but my la la fingers went numb a day or two back :-) I'll try a filter instead. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
I've been thinking. I really dislike the free spirit of the list being polluted. What is going on is more than the regular friendly spirited flames. I assume this has happened before. So I'm asking the old timers. What did you do to get the list back on track again? And please folks, don't give me this it is all NN's fault again, that is childish and unconstructive. Please excuse my plain tone. Some times I believe in being strait forward. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Cassino Sent: 18. desember 2006 01:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Time for a break ... Hear! Hear! Tim. (That's 19th century English for Yeah, right on!) For crying out loud - typing in an obscenity or even just a boorish remark doesn't do anything. If you think a single person is idiotic, well, let them be. Responding to their idiocy just brings in more grief. This post is probably pointless, but as someone who came back into the PDML after being away for a while, I was surprised at how mean spirited it has become. I'll date myself but I'm thinking of a song from a while back - There ain't no good guys, There ain't no bad guys, There's just you and me And we just disagee. I probably got the quote wrong. I get most things wrong. People can disagree without being disagreeable. I don't care who tapped who when or what the score is - let's just give this crap a break and agree to be civil, and make this list something worth reading. - MCC Tim Øsleby wrote: Bill and John. Now you are both doing it again, in a thread where the OP was about exact this phenomenon. My instinct reaction is being angry at you both. But I'll try to behave myself. Can't the two of you have a PDML duel somewhere in the desert, like real men, instead of this constant bitching ;-) Seriously: Can't you simply ignore each other? How about mutual kill filing? Am I asking to much? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
On 18/12/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking. I really dislike the free spirit of the list being polluted. What is going on is more than the regular friendly spirited flames. I assume this has happened before. So I'm asking the old timers. What did you do to get the list back on track again? And please folks, don't give me this it is all NN's fault again, that is childish and unconstructive. Please excuse my plain tone. Some times I believe in being strait forward. Just try to ignore it and the puss will clear up and it will eventually be normal again. If you are having difficulties doing that then a filter or two may help, or alternately, put your fingers in your ears and shout out na, na na, na... :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
My solution: Do photography. Ignore the bullshit. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
Ignore it, and it goes away. Answer the posts, and it continues. Very simple. Paul On Dec 17, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I've been thinking. I really dislike the free spirit of the list being polluted. What is going on is more than the regular friendly spirited flames. I assume this has happened before. So I'm asking the old timers. What did you do to get the list back on track again? And please folks, don't give me this it is all NN's fault again, that is childish and unconstructive. Please excuse my plain tone. Some times I believe in being strait forward. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Cassino Sent: 18. desember 2006 01:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Time for a break ... Hear! Hear! Tim. (That's 19th century English for Yeah, right on!) For crying out loud - typing in an obscenity or even just a boorish remark doesn't do anything. If you think a single person is idiotic, well, let them be. Responding to their idiocy just brings in more grief. This post is probably pointless, but as someone who came back into the PDML after being away for a while, I was surprised at how mean spirited it has become. I'll date myself but I'm thinking of a song from a while back - There ain't no good guys, There ain't no bad guys, There's just you and me And we just disagee. I probably got the quote wrong. I get most things wrong. People can disagree without being disagreeable. I don't care who tapped who when or what the score is - let's just give this crap a break and agree to be civil, and make this list something worth reading. - MCC Tim Øsleby wrote: Bill and John. Now you are both doing it again, in a thread where the OP was about exact this phenomenon. My instinct reaction is being angry at you both. But I'll try to behave myself. Can't the two of you have a PDML duel somewhere in the desert, like real men, instead of this constant bitching ;-) Seriously: Can't you simply ignore each other? How about mutual kill filing? Am I asking to much? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Time for a break ... (Time to do something with the list ahmosphere?)
I guess I qualify as an old timer, I don't remember doing anything, it just blows over... eventually. Tim Øsleby wrote: I've been thinking. I really dislike the free spirit of the list being polluted. What is going on is more than the regular friendly spirited flames. I assume this has happened before. So I'm asking the old timers. What did you do to get the list back on track again? And please folks, don't give me this it is all NN's fault again, that is childish and unconstructive. Please excuse my plain tone. Some times I believe in being strait forward. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Cassino Sent: 18. desember 2006 01:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Time for a break ... Hear! Hear! Tim. (That's 19th century English for Yeah, right on!) For crying out loud - typing in an obscenity or even just a boorish remark doesn't do anything. If you think a single person is idiotic, well, let them be. Responding to their idiocy just brings in more grief. This post is probably pointless, but as someone who came back into the PDML after being away for a while, I was surprised at how mean spirited it has become. I'll date myself but I'm thinking of a song from a while back - There ain't no good guys, There ain't no bad guys, There's just you and me And we just disagee. I probably got the quote wrong. I get most things wrong. People can disagree without being disagreeable. I don't care who tapped who when or what the score is - let's just give this crap a break and agree to be civil, and make this list something worth reading. - MCC Tim Øsleby wrote: Bill and John. Now you are both doing it again, in a thread where the OP was about exact this phenomenon. My instinct reaction is being angry at you both. But I'll try to behave myself. Can't the two of you have a PDML duel somewhere in the desert, like real men, instead of this constant bitching ;-) Seriously: Can't you simply ignore each other? How about mutual kill filing? Am I asking to much? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
