RE: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
Actually, the Koran is a template for a gentle, forgiving philosophy in the main as well. Nowhere, for example, does it allow for the mistreatment of women that the Taliban and other extreme groups practise - quite the reverse, in fact. I find it interesting that in Spain, from 800AD to approx 1400AD, Jews and Muslims lived peaceably side by side, while pogroms occurred in Christian Europe! I'm afraid we must blame the clerics again - was it Henry IV who asked 'Who will rid me of this troublesome priest', leading to the murder of Thomas a Becket at Canterbury? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: As many Americans have known for years, extreme religious fundmentalists that think they speak for god and that their religions are more important than people's human rights, are truly the greatest evil on earth. Fundamentalist Chrilstians, Jews and Muslims are all bascially the same evil in different clothing.arrogant, ignorant and hate mongers. SNIP - --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
AMEN! Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
I'm afraid we must blame the clerics again - was it Henry IV who asked 'Who will rid me of this troublesome priest', leading to the murder of Thomas a Becket at Canterbury? Back in 1992 I saw a brilliant play called Becket in London. Derek Jacobi played Becket. The play portrayed it as Becket and Henry II being best pals until Henry appointed him Archbishop of Canterbury, at which point he started taking his role as priest seriously, to the point of clashing with Henry. Henry's plan to put one of his own at the head of the English church had backfired, and that's why he had Becket killed. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
The irony is that your expression is far from one of compassion. Lump 'em all together and call 'em evil. Solves lots of problems. CRB At 04:20 AM 9/16/01 -0400, you wrote: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:11:09 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC As many Americans have known for years, extreme religious fundmentalists that think they speak for god and that their religions are more important than people's human rights, are truly the greatest evil on earth. Fundamentalist Chrilstians, Jews and Muslims are all bascially the same evil in different clothing.arrogant, ignorant and hate mongers. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
Very well said, Bob! thanks, frank Bob Blakely wrote: We say we believe that people should be free to speak. The test of this belief comes when folks say things we find repugnant or even horrific. If their speech is tolerated, then I know that I am free. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
As someone who was raised in one of the South's most fundamentally conservative Christian religions, I can tell you right now the things Falwell said in NO WAY represents ANYTHING I was ever taught. True, I haven't been to church in years, but the problems I have with that don't have anything to do with extremism. The term fundamentalist has to do with removing what this and other churches like it see as distracting and excessive trappings practiced by Catholics and certain similar Protestant denominations -- keeping it simple and 'bare bones,' cutting through reams of religious dogma to get to the heart of the message. Evangelical is a far better term to describe what they're about. People who handle snakes, drink strychnine or listen to Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell are extremists, plain and simple. Even though they would have a heart attack if you compared them to extremists such as the KKK or other Aryan nation types which practice violence routinely, they are the same in that they don't advocate violence directly, but they do seem to approve it. - Original Message - From: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC I don't disagree with much of what you say regarding the dangers of fundamentalist religion, but I don't know that they are the greatest evil on earth. I know that I'm fudging the language a bit, but I'd say that fundamentalist or fanatical ANYTHING is the danger. Capitalism taken to it's extreme is undoubtedly just as dangerous. And let's not forget that some of the most evil regimes of this century have outlawed religion - I'm thinking the USSR and China here. Think Gulags. Think Cultural Revolution. BTW, I'm not defending religion here; I'm an atheist! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
Where did Falwell indicate he approves of violence? -Original Message- From: Treena Harp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC People who handle snakes, drink strychnine or listen to Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell are extremists, plain and simple. Even though they would have a heart attack if you compared them to extremists such as the KKK or other Aryan nation types which practice violence routinely, they are the same in that they don't advocate violence directly, but they do seem to approve it. [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
I would say his remarks in regards to this somehow being God's vengeance on abortionists, gays, or anyone else of whom he disapproves, would be a pretty good indicator of that. The fact that he is willing to treat the slaughter of innocents in this manner is utterly appalling, and very cheapening of the life he claims is so sacred. God didn't kill those people to prove Falwell right. Some Muslim extremists killed those people to make some sort of a point. God had nothing to do with it. - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: RE: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC Where did Falwell indicate he approves of violence? -Original Message- From: Treena Harp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC People who handle snakes, drink strychnine or listen to Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell are extremists, plain and simple. Even though they would have a heart attack if you compared them to extremists such as the KKK or other Aryan nation types which practice violence routinely, they are the same in that they don't advocate violence directly, but they do seem to approve it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
