RE: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
There is one offered at www.marktplaats.nl in nieuw condition for only 275 Euro! Greetings, Jos from Holland (Jos bought his first Pentax in the seventies. Now uses MX, ME-super and Z-1 and recently went digital with a Minolta Scan Speed) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
That would be a shame because the new Zone VI meters are extremely expensive, to me. I can't justify sinking over $600 in a meter even though it's the most accurate, color corrected meter available. If I could send them a V and get it modified for a reasonable price, I'd do it too. Len --- -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > Isn't the V the current model? I see them around for sale brand > new. Yes, I know about the digital Spotmeter, but I thought the > V was still being produced. Hi, Len. Yes, I think the (analog) V is still available. (I have one already, though, so I wasn't actually looking to buy a new one.) I had the thought of looking into having it modified into a Zone VI spotmeter (which I think is something Zone VI used to do). However, it appears to me that Calumet (who, I guess, bought out Zone VI) is only selling new modified Pentax ~Digital~ Spotmeters, and is not handling the (analog) Pentax Spotmeter V at all. Fred - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Fred Subject: Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > However, I already have a Spotmeter V, and I was hoping to get it > converted, which I believe Zone VI would have done, but I don't > think Calumet will do it... Give them a phone call. They might surprise you Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
Hi Fred, Contact Richard Ritter at: http://www.lg4mat.net/ He may be able to modify your meter or point you in the direction of one that you can purchase. The web site lists his credentials, which are probably adequate . Fred wrote: > However, I already have a Spotmeter V, and I was hoping to get it > converted, which I believe Zone VI would have done, but I don't > think Calumet will do it... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
> Isn't the V the current model? I see them around for sale brand > new. Yes, I know about the digital Spotmeter, but I thought the > V was still being produced. Hi, Len. Yes, I think the (analog) V is still available. (I have one already, though, so I wasn't actually looking to buy a new one.) I had the thought of looking into having it modified into a Zone VI spotmeter (which I think is something Zone VI used to do). However, it appears to me that Calumet (who, I guess, bought out Zone VI) is only selling new modified Pentax ~Digital~ Spotmeters, and is not handling the (analog) Pentax Spotmeter V at all. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
>> then does anyone know of a source for a Zone VI modified Pentax >> Spotmeter V ? > Ebay??? Hi, William. Yes, there always is (and will always be) eBay, I guess... ;-) However, I already have a Spotmeter V, and I was hoping to get it converted, which I believe Zone VI would have done, but I don't think Calumet will do it... Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
It is. Len Paris wrote: > > Isn't the V the current model? ... > I thought the V was still being produced. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Len Paris Subject: Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > Isn't the V the current model? I see them around for sale brand > new. Yes, I know about the digital Spotmeter, but I thought the > V was still being produced. Fred wants a Zone VI modified. If Calumet is no longer converting Spotmeter V's, then the digital meter is the way to go. Fred, did you check to see if they will still convert a meter if you send it to them? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Fred Subject: Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > > If I am correct (an occasional occurrence), then does anyone know of > a source for a Zone VI modified Pentax Spotmeter V ? Ebay??? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
>> Where can you have this modification done to the Pentax Spotmeter >> V and what is the cost for the work. thanks > Check with Calumet: http://www.calumetphoto.com/ Unless I'm missing something, it seems as if Calumet is selling only a Zone VI modified Pentax Digital Spotmeter, not the Spotmeter V. If I am correct (an occasional occurrence), then does anyone know of a source for a Zone VI modified Pentax Spotmeter V ? Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
Hi David ... The 40.5 thread is for the Digital Spotmeter, and, like Bob, I usually use a step ring and an appropriately sized hood, and that allows easy use of the more typical larger diameter filters over the meter. The Pentax Spotmeter V uses a 46mm thread, and while I have a few 46mm filters for some Leica lenses, I usually use a step ring for that as well. "David A. Mann" wrote: > Thanks for the tip. I might look around for a suitable adaptor. > 40.5mm sounds like an oddball size for a filter thread. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Denny B Subject: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > Thank you very much for this explination, I now understand that > the Zone VI meter is for large format Zone system work which I never > do . I will stick with my Spotmeter V and continue to use it as I know, > I find it an excellent accurate meter and have learnt more about light > and metering since using it. Please read Shel's reply to my email as well. Don't take my opinion as the gospel here. If you have a Spotmeter V already, and are getting good use out of it, the Zone VI version will add a significant amount of accuracy to your metering. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
I disagree. While it's fine for large format work, I use mine to great advantage with 35mm work, including street shooting. Its small size and accurate metering allows me to scan a scene quickly, get the light levels established, and go on shooting without any further metering. Both the Spotmeter V and the Digital Spotmeter allow for similar results, although the digital is preferred in some instances because of its smaller size and greater durability. In lower light situations, or where size isn't an issue, the the analog readout of the Spotmeter V allows for a better visualization of the relative scene values and a somewhat brighter, or easier to read, center spot area. Of course, the Zone System concept is always in my mind when considering exposures. Speaking of the Zone System, here's a simplified version, especially for those using roll film or who have trouble grasping the concept: The Zone System in a Nutshell, By: Jim Brick There are four zones. Zone Good, Zone Bad, Zone Ugly, Zone Butt Ugly. To use the system: Wake up. Get out of bed. Go outside. Zone good: It is light overcast-ish, light shadows. But good light direction. Normal open contrast. Expose normal (eg; Tri-X @ 400,) develop normal. (N) Zone bad: It is dismally overcast, no shadows. Perhaps even drizzle. No contrast. Underexpose one stop (eg; Tri-X @ 800,) over develop 20% (N+1) Zone ugly: The sun is out, sky is clear, and there are blatant shadows. High contrast. Overexpose one stop (eg; Tri-X @ 200,) under develop 20% (N-1) Zone butt ugly: The sun is squinty bright and the shadows really deep. Really high contrast. Go in and go back to bed. ...But if you are a die-hard... Overexpose two stops (eg; Tri-X @ 100,) under develop 30% (N-2) "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The Zone VI meter is a bit of an odd duck that way. It is very >expensive, does one thing incredibly well, and is nearly useless >for anything other than large format Zone system work. >I expect most users of the Zone VI meter are amateur/ hobbyists, >which is where the bulk of Zone system work is done. --- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Len Paris Subject: Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > Calumet will sell you one for about $568 U.S. Just a bit > expensive for > amateur/hobby use, but no big deal for folks on the PDML. The Zone VI meter is a bit of an odd duck that way. It is very expensive, does one thing incredibly well, and is nearly useless for anything other than large format Zone system work. I expect most users of the Zone VI meter are amateur/ hobbyists, which is where the bulk of Zone system work is done. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
04/06/2002 9:50:50 AM, "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Calumet will sell you one for about $568 U.S. Just a bit >expensive for amateur/hobby use, but no big deal for folks on the PDML. Yesterday there was a Zone VI on eBay with a price well below $300.00, which included a zippered case. The case alone sells for $50.00 or so. I think the "extras" also included the Zone VI holster. --- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
Calumet will sell you one for about $568 U.S. Just a bit expensive for amateur/hobby use, but no big deal for folks on the PDML. Len - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > - Original Message - > From: Denny B > Subject: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > > > > Where can you have this modification done to the Pentax > > Spotmeter V and what is the cost for the work. > > thanks > > Check with Calumet: > http://www.calumetphoto.com/ > > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Denny B Subject: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > Where can you have this modification done to the Pentax > Spotmeter V and what is the cost for the work. > thanks Check with Calumet: http://www.calumetphoto.com/ William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Denny B Subject: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > > Conversion to what? > > > Conversion to Zone V1? Why is it referred to as a Zone V! meter? DUH!! I answered that question earilier in the post you gleaned that snippet of cat intelligence from. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
It's a Zone VI (Roman Numerals), not V1 or V!. Zone VI is the name of the company that made or modified numerous bits of photo gear, such as modifying the Pentax Spotmeters, building enlargers, timers, and so forth. The company was founded by Fred Picker and later sold to Calumet. Denny B wrote: > Conversion to Zone V1? Why is it referred to as a Zone V! meter? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
Dave, Since I use it with filters, I use my 100 f4 macro hood and the 40.5 to 49 adaptor. Bob - Original Message - From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've thought about adding a hood to my digital spot. How easy is it > to find an appropriate one? > > Cheers, > > > - Dave > > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
- Original Message - From: Denny B Subject: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V. > I have and use a Pentax Spotmeter V, however I sometimes read > that there are photographers who sent the Spotmeter V to certain > companies, that convert the Spotmeter V to a Zone V1 meter. > > What is the purpose in having this done and why is there the claim > that after the conversion has been done that the meter is now much > more accurate? They add new anti reflective baffles to increase the efficiency of the baffling. They also add both an ultraviolet and an infrared filter, to trim what the meter cell sees down to the visible spectrum. Then they add a coloured filter that brings the meter response to that of film. After that, the meter is calibrated for accuracy and linearity to within 1/6 of a stop. A Zone VI modified meter sees light the same way that film does. A Zone VI modified meter is colour blind, which means that it will not be thrown off by strongly coloured subjects. It is the only truly accurate spot meter. > > I am familiar with Ansel Adams zone system ( The Negative) and every time > I take a light reading of a subject, mentally use the zone system, I use 35mm > color slide and negative film so obviously I cannot apply the development > part of the zone system. > > Can somebody give me a detailed description of Zone V1 conversion. Conversion to what? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why Convert a Pentax Spotmeter V.....
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > And, for even better results when metering in the direction of the > light source, you can attach a hood to the meter. BTW, I understand > that the meter is calibrated to be accurate within 1/6 stop. I've thought about adding a hood to my digital spot. How easy is it to find an appropriate one? Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
