ME Super film transport (Was Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5?)
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 12:24:51PM -0700, aimcompute wrote: > BTW, my film transport just locked on my ME Super. I thought the camera > wasn't working at all. So I managed in the dark to wind the film till it > stripped off the sprockets. Thought I had it all, but the film had broken > inside leaving about 5 frames around the take-up reel. > > Does anyone know why this happens? Happened with an MX once as well. I've got an ME Super with quirky transport. One day (without film) I could continually crank the wind lever, without tripping the shutter - that was freaky. Then I turned the mode dial and I couldn't reproduce the fault again. Another time, I took a photo and the mirror locked up. (This is DIFFERENT from when you trip the shutter in auto mode and it is too dark.) Turning the mode dial didn't have any effect. I put lens cap on and rewound the film. And I did something else and the camera was fine again. Lucky too, since that was the day I left both my MX and other ME Super at home. As it turned out, the mirror was up but the shutter was closed, since there was no fogging of the film when I developed it. No idea why any of this happened. Sincerely, Frank. -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student. LFCS, Div. of Informatics, Uni. of Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. Tel: +44 131 6505185. Fax: +44 131 6677209. Office: 1603, JCMB, KB. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5?
The mounts for the Peleng are M42 and Nikon F only. What the other mounts are is seller throwing in a M42->EOS adaptor, M42-K adaptor, etc. and that raises the price. Todd At 05:18 AM 11/14/01 +1000, you wrote: >Finally, why the price difference between the mounts? The BIN is >~US$110-170 from M42 through K, EOS/FD, F. Is it simply brand snobbery, or >a matter of complexity and diaphragm operation? (I assume it has auto >diaphragm) > >Andrew >(Still with the MEsuper and 55/1.8, and the film transport's only locked >twice.) >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
Keep in mind that's .3m from the film plane, which makes about 6"-8" from the front element seem right. At F22 and minimum focus distance something about 2" from the front element should be in focus. Todd At 08:03 PM 11/12/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Tom, > >On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > >> Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > >I bought one a couple of months ago. I've only used it once, but I was >pleased with the results. I've never worked with a fish-eye, though, >and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my >fingers and feet in the photos). It focuses closer than I would have >imagined. The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like >six to eight inches when I was using it. I'm still doing the >postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. >I'll post you a note when they go up on the web. > >TTYL, DougF >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
It's a nice little lens. At $130 or whatever they are selling for now they are a bargain. When it comes to superwides it blows the Vivitar 19mm away with better color, contrast, and flare resistance. The lens construction seems solid, but the aperture ring on mine turns about 1/2 stop past F22 - which doesn't stop down the lens anymore, but does affect metering. My lens cap broke within a week, one of the springs fell out but the cap still works ok. Also, the aperture ring doesn't quite line up right for cameras with the optical aperture window (KX, MX, some Ricoh bodies). The lens comes with 4 filters, clear, red, yellow, and green. A filter must be installed for proper focus. The filters are useful for B&W, but for color you'd just use the clear and let the others collect dust. Changing the filters is a PITA. Despite the couple of problems I have had, I still say the lens is a bargain, and I recommend it. Todd At 01:58 PM 11/12/01 -0700, you wrote: >Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > >Thanks. > >Tom C. >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5?
Gee, I love the questions people ask in here! As if our members were in a position to give definitive, accurate answers. Your guess is probably as good as mine, Andrew. If you find out, for sure, please share with the group. Len (who is at home, sick, and probably being a curmudgeon) --- - Original Message - From: "Andrew Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: RE: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5? > Finally, why the price difference between the mounts? The BIN is > ~US$110-170 from M42 through K, EOS/FD, F. Is it simply brand snobbery, or > a matter of complexity and diaphragm operation? (I assume it has auto > diaphragm) > > Andrew - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5?
I just "bought" (having trouble getting the guy to send me an invoice with the correct shipping amount) the Zenitar in USA, but I live here. BTW, my film transport just locked on my ME Super. I thought the camera wasn't working at all. So I managed in the dark to wind the film till it stripped off the sprockets. Thought I had it all, but the film had broken inside leaving about 5 frames around the take-up reel. Does anyone know why this happens? Happened with an MX once as well. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: RE: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5? > How about the Peleng 8mm f3.5, does anyone have one of these? Comes > standard with M42 and Nikon F mounts, others available as it is a preset > T-mount lens. Made in Belarus. Designed for slightly wider Soviet film, so > you don't quite get a full circle. > > Available on ebay, or here http://www.geocities.com/belshop/ > > Also, have any Australians bought either the Zenitar or the Peleng? I > recall seeing the Peleng up on sold.com.au, but the price was high. I > wouldn't mind acquiring one of these, probably the Zenitar, but am not sure > of the easiest method (Russian/American Ebay seller/net store/list contact?) > > Finally, why the price difference between the mounts? The BIN is > ~US$110-170 from M42 through K, EOS/FD, F. Is it simply brand snobbery, or > a matter of complexity and diaphragm operation? (I assume it has auto > diaphragm) > > Andrew > (Still with the MEsuper and 55/1.8, and the film transport's only locked > twice.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS - Peleng 8/3.5?
How about the Peleng 8mm 3.5, does anyone have one of these? Comes standard with M42 and Nikon F mounts, others available as it is a preset T-mount lens. Made in Belarus. Designed for slightly wider Soviet film, so you don't quite get a full circle. Available on ebay, or here http://www.geocities.com/belshop/ Also, have any Australians bought either the Zenitar or the Peleng? I recall seeing the Peleng up on sold.com.au, but the price was high. I wouldn't mind acquiring one of these, probably the Zenitar, but am not sure of the easiest method (Russian/American Ebay seller/net store/list contact?) Finally, why the price difference between the mounts? The BIN is ~US$110-170 from M42 through K, EOS/FD, F. Is it simply brand snobbery, or a matter of complexity and diaphragm operation? (I assume it has auto diaphragm) Andrew (Still with the MEsuper and 55/1.8, and the film transport's only locked twice.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
It`s fine lens , not to say great lens! Cheers , Raivo Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:58:11 +0200 Message-ID: <01b701c16bbc$bece4f60$107f0f3f@tomcakalicppp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2001 20:55:42.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[649C19A0:01C16BBC] Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? Thanks. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:16:19 -0500, Cory or Brenda Waters wrote: > so what exactly are you doing to these photos? > do you have IM? Sorry, Cory, but you lost me on that one. Basically, I took the 6" x 4" prints and scanned them on my HP 3300c scanner. Now I'm in the middle of getting them ready for the web, which includes dinking the contrast a bit, applying a bit of unsharp mask, and inserting my copyright notice. Next is to locate some Web space for them. This doesn't sound like all that big a deal, and it isn't, ... unless you factor in the insane deadlines I'm trying to meet at my real job, which have a tendency to eat into my time for photo-related stuff. :-) TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
Thanks Doug. I've already purchased one. I still would like to see what you've done though. I was going to mount it on a spare body for the expected meteor storm on the weekend. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > Hi Tom, > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > > > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > > I bought one a couple of months ago. I've only used it once, but I was > pleased with the results. I've never worked with a fish-eye, though, > and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my > fingers and feet in the photos). It focuses closer than I would have > imagined. The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like > six to eight inches when I was using it. I'm still doing the > postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. > I'll post you a note when they go up on the web. > > TTYL, DougF > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
Now, you've really raised my curiosity. What is IM? You can e-mail off-list if you like. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Cory or Brenda Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > CRAP! Sorry list. Didn't mean for the world to get this. > > Cory Waters > administering my second dope-slap on this list this week! > > - Original Message - > From: "Cory or Brenda Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > > > > so what exactly are you doing to these photos? > > do you have IM? > > > > Cory > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:03 PM > > Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > > > > > > > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > > > > > > I bought one a couple of months ago. I've only used it once, but I was > > > pleased with the results. I've never worked with a fish-eye, though, > > > and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my > > > fingers and feet in the photos). It focuses closer than I would have > > > imagined. The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like > > > six to eight inches when I was using it. I'm still doing the > > > postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. > > > I'll post you a note when they go up on the web. > > > > > > TTYL, DougF > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
CRAP! Sorry list. Didn't mean for the world to get this. Cory Waters administering my second dope-slap on this list this week! - Original Message - From: "Cory or Brenda Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > so what exactly are you doing to these photos? > do you have IM? > > Cory > > - Original Message - > From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > > > > > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > > > > I bought one a couple of months ago. I've only used it once, but I was > > pleased with the results. I've never worked with a fish-eye, though, > > and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my > > fingers and feet in the photos). It focuses closer than I would have > > imagined. The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like > > six to eight inches when I was using it. I'm still doing the > > postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. > > I'll post you a note when they go up on the web. > > > > TTYL, DougF > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
so what exactly are you doing to these photos? do you have IM? Cory - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > Hi Tom, > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > > > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > > I bought one a couple of months ago. I've only used it once, but I was > pleased with the results. I've never worked with a fish-eye, though, > and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my > fingers and feet in the photos). It focuses closer than I would have > imagined. The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like > six to eight inches when I was using it. I'm still doing the > postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. > I'll post you a note when they go up on the web. > > TTYL, DougF > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
Hi Tom, On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote: > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? I bought one a couple of months ago. I've only used it once, but I was pleased with the results. I've never worked with a fish-eye, though, and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my fingers and feet in the photos). It focuses closer than I would have imagined. The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like six to eight inches when I was using it. I'm still doing the postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. I'll post you a note when they go up on the web. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
Thanks guys!!! I appreciate all the quick responses! I just got one for $129 + $35 for next day shipping. I intend on testing it out before this weekend. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "lbparis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > Search eBay for the userid 'kievcamera'. He usually has some > for auction in Pentax K and in Nikon mount. > > Len > --- > - Original Message - > From: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > > > > I have found one place but the price is $60 higher. > > > > Tom C. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
Hi Tom, I own the Zenitar (it's my second one) and I can say it's a very good performer. I don't know how it compares to Pentax fish-eyes, though. When I first used it in 1997 (on the Z-1p) the results seemed poor, with wash out colors, but it was my fault for not metering correctly (I had mostly FA and A lenses with me and trusted too much the meter of the Z-1p - bought brand new few weeks before - to care for the exposure... shame on me :-(). In 2000 I brought the Zenitar with me in France. The results were astonishing! Brilliant colors, no flare, almost no internal reflections even with the sun in the corner of the frame. The resolution seems really high, too. I have some shots I can send you off list if you wish. Like most Russian lenses, the color rendition is slightly on the warm side, but it goes almost unnoticed. It should come with some screw-in filters (UV, Yellow, Orange and Red). A filter must stay always on the lens (it's part of the optics, the lens cannot focus at infinity without). Hope this helps. Gianfranco - Original Message - From: aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > > Thanks. > > Tom C. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
I have one in Pentax K-mount. It's a very good lens, especially considering the price. It's really a good performer, so don't let the low price put you off. You could buy the Pentax equivalent, of course, and have a better lens but you'd have to use it a lot to justify spending that much money. Len --- - Original Message - From: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS > Any comments on this lens? Good, bad, mediocre? > > Thanks. > > Tom C. > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
