RE: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Paul, you forgot to add religion, abortion and politics! Tan.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2010 1:08 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum In truth, we're a bit more mature than the others. We've been around for a dozen years and wore out the hand-wringing thing a while back. I think we've learned that there will inevitably be problems with anything as complex as a DSLR, and sometimes we have to be a bit patient while those problems are sorted out. More importantly, we have other things to talk about: beer, coffee, guns, personal issues, etc. Oh, and pictures. We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. That should have gone in the slogan thread. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. That should have gone in the slogan thread. it's a runner seeking sanctuary. Slogan's Pun. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
2010/12/7 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: Must have been using a REAL slow shutter... with DFS turned on, too... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:07 PM, paul stenquist wrote: In truth, we're a bit more mature than the othersMore importantly...We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. I was overwhelmed at the number of messages I got every day when I signed up here. For a few months I just deleted them. Then I started reading. I saw that it's actually a pretty small group, sharing photos and talking about them, and that, as Boris said in welcoming the newcomer recently, that you're very friendly. And I would add, generous. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:07 PM, paul stenquist wrote: In truth, we're a bit more mature than the othersMore importantly...We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. I was overwhelmed at the number of messages I got every day when I signed up here. For a few months I just deleted them. Then I started reading. I saw that it's actually a pretty small group, sharing photos and talking about them, and that, as Boris said in welcoming the newcomer recently, that you're very friendly. And I would add, generous. Keep an eye on Cotty and Frank, just saying is all. Dave -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Actually it's a pretty large group, posting under a small number of names, frank for example is at least two people and Cotty is a whole group. I'm not sure what Dave Brooks is but based on his knowledge of English spellings, I suspect he's an extraterrestrial. On 12/7/2010 7:25 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:07 PM, paul stenquist wrote: In truth, we're a bit more mature than the othersMore importantly...We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. I was overwhelmed at the number of messages I got every day when I signed up here. For a few months I just deleted them. Then I started reading. I saw that it's actually a pretty small group, sharing photos and talking about them, and that, as Boris said in welcoming the newcomer recently, that you're very friendly. And I would add, generous. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Wow. Three days, two lenses and 25 shots to figure out what ought to be discernible in 3 shots through one lens over the course of, what, fifteen minutes? I want that guy reading my MRI's. -- Walt On 12/6/2010 7:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I quote; I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
paul stenquist wrote: I quote; I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul LOL! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
That's quite a bit of looking to find an obvious visible imperfection. The best part is that if you did find something then you'll see it forever. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. Three days, two lenses and 25 shots to figure out what ought to be discernible in 3 shots through one lens over the course of, what, fifteen minutes? I want that guy reading my MRI's. -- Walt On 12/6/2010 7:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I quote; I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On 2010-12-06 21:47, Paul Ewins wrote: We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. If you think everything's going well, you've obviously overlooked something. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
In truth, we're a bit more mature than the others. We've been around for a dozen years and wore out the hand-wringing thing a while back. I think we've learned that there will inevitably be problems with anything as complex as a DSLR, and sometimes we have to be a bit patient while those problems are sorted out. More importantly, we have other things to talk about: beer, coffee, guns, personal issues, etc. Oh, and pictures. We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
No question. The Pesos always remind me that I'm the master/weak point in the photographic process. -Original Message- From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:07:53 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum In truth, we're a bit more mature than the others. We've been around for a dozen years and wore out the hand-wringing thing a while back. I think we've learned that there will inevitably be problems with anything as complex as a DSLR, and sometimes we have to be a bit patient while those problems are sorted out. More importantly, we have other things to talk about: beer, coffee, guns, personal issues, etc. Oh, and pictures. We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum I quote; I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. Good thing he doesn't have a life. Must have been using a REAL slow shutter... Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Yeah, I actively avoid DPR unless a search takes me there. Funny thing is that Adam started PF after problems there. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On 12/7/2010 3:24 AM, paul stenquist wrote: I quote; I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul Seeing (the blobs) shrink can be the solution for that poor person. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On 12/7/2010 5:07 AM, paul stenquist wrote: We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul I concur and I'd even drink to that, Paul. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
