Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-24 Thread george de fockert


From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,

 a question to the optical-formula gurus.  Pentax describes the optics of
 this mirror lens as 6 elements in 4 groups.  Looking at the diagram that
 they provide us, I see 8 elements.  I will number them 1 through 8 when
 looking from left to right.  1 and 2 as well as 5 and 6 seem to be forming
 the two two-element groups (like the optical formula suggests), but what
 about the rest?

 I am thinking like this:

 - elements 2 and 3 must be mirrors, so they might not be counted towards
   the number of optical elements.  Now we are down to 6 elements which
   agrees with Pentax.  But the number of groups is now 5.
 - alternatively, element 8 is the screw-on filter, so that might not be
   counted.  Then we are left with 7-5.  Still doesn's fit.

 Your ideas are welcome.  Cheers,
 Boz



Boz,
my interpretation :
first group of 2 elements, some schmidt/maksutov like corrector forms a
group with the secundary mirror.
Second group of 1 element is the primary mirror (maybe mangin mirror?)
light goes then to the already mentioned secondary mirror, and then back to
the third
group af 1 element, a negative lens.
Then the  2 element fourth group, some kitted achromat.

So, now we have 4 groups and 6 elements, although I have my doubts if it is
right to
consider the corrector/secondary mirror one group.

The last 2 elements, are the 2 filterwheels.
one for the color filters, and one for the ND filters
Probably not counted as elements.

George


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RE: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-22 Thread petit miam

Just make sure the focus is set properly when you see
Prince Charles, Britney Spears and Boy George having a
threesome in Buckingham Palace with the curtains wide
open :)

 Is there anybody that actually owns one of these?  I
 often though of getting one and starting up my on
 little domestic spy business.  You could do some
 neat things with it and some 3200 ASA BW film!


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Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-20 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

a question to the optical-formula gurus.  Pentax describes the optics of
this mirror lens as 6 elements in 4 groups.  Looking at the diagram that
they provide us, I see 8 elements.  I will number them 1 through 8 when
looking from left to right.  1 and 2 as well as 5 and 6 seem to be forming
the two two-element groups (like the optical formula suggests), but what
about the rest?

I am thinking like this:

- elements 2 and 3 must be mirrors, so they might not be counted towards
  the number of optical elements.  Now we are down to 6 elements which
  agrees with Pentax.  But the number of groups is now 5.
- alternatively, element 8 is the screw-on filter, so that might not be
  counted.  Then we are left with 7-5.  Still doesn's fit.

Your ideas are welcome.  Cheers,
Boz

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Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-20 Thread Philippe Trottier

Hello,

about this lense, how good would this make a LX with SD-11 clear for
astrophotopgrahy ?  equivalent of this would be 5.8" mirror Smith
Cassegrain. and a 24x36mm eye-piece...

what type of TC could be used with this lense ?

Philippe





 Hi,

 a question to the optical-formula gurus.  Pentax describes the optics of
 this mirror lens as 6 elements in 4 groups.  Looking at the diagram that
 they provide us, I see 8 elements.  I will number them 1 through 8 when
 looking from left to right.  1 and 2 as well as 5 and 6 seem to be forming
 the two two-element groups (like the optical formula suggests), but what
 about the rest?

 I am thinking like this:

 - elements 2 and 3 must be mirrors, so they might not be counted towards
   the number of optical elements.  Now we are down to 6 elements which
   agrees with Pentax.  But the number of groups is now 5.
 - alternatively, element 8 is the screw-on filter, so that might not be
   counted.  Then we are left with 7-5.  Still doesn's fit.

 Your ideas are welcome.  Cheers,
 Boz

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Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread Pål Jensen

William wrote:

 Is there anybody that actually owns one of these?  I often though of getting one and 
starting up my on little domestic spy business.  You could do some neat things with 
it and some 3200 ASA BW film!


If you can focus it! I had troubles with the 1000/11. Try to stop down any lens to 
F:11 and try focusing it. A 2000mm will be 10 times worse; remeber the focusing 
accuracy involved. Its pretty much hopeless in my experience. Focusing bracketing is 
mandatory.

Pl

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Re: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread K.Takeshita

on 4/19/01 11:16 AM, O'Neill, William at William.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anybody that actually owns one of these?  I often though of getting
 one and starting up my on little domestic spy business.  You could do some
 neat things with it and some 3200 ASA BW film!
 
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RE: lens of the week: 2000/13.5 and M 2000/13.5

2001-04-19 Thread O'Neill, William


Pl said:
If you can focus it! I had troubles with the 1000/11. Try to stop down any lens to 
F:11 and try focusing it. A 2000mm will be 10 times worse; remeber the focusing 
accuracy involved. Its pretty much hopeless in my experience. Focusing bracketing is 
mandatory.

I say:
Yes, but Pl, in the domestic spy business, all you need to do is be able to recognize 
the guy/gal cavorting with the other guy/gal.  Wall hanging quality isn't such an 
issue for most of the clients.
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