Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Hello Peter, I only have a ZX-10 to compare with. The sound of the *ist is louder than the ZX-10. It is a much more confident sound (solid - less cheesy), but is louder. If stealth is important, the ZX-10 is the better choice (lot less features). I can't really say how loud the ZX-10 is compared the the ZX-5n or MZ-6 however. As to the tripod mount, yes it is plastic. The ZX-10 is metal but is surrounded/embedded in plastic. Not sure if there is a real difference or not. metal sleeve in plastic or plastic with no sleeve. If you want good AF and/or flash capabilities like High Speed synch for daylight fill and wireless type stuff then the *ist D is the way to go. If you just want an nice upgraded SuperProgram with AF and standard style controls that will work with K/M lenses, then the MZ-5n is the way to go. I would really be comparing those two bodies based on your needs. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, January 2, 2004, 5:39:47 AM, you wrote: PB Hi Bruce, BD I bought a film *ist as a backup to my *istD. Overall, it is quite BD nice and has enough features. Pretty usable overall. Certainly not BD an MZ-S by any stretch of the imagination, but at 1/3 cost, there are BD not very many features on the MZ-S that it is lacking. PB could you tell me how loud is the sound of the shutter (and mirror PB slap, and motor winder) of 35mm ist ?? Isn't it too loud? Compared to PB MZ bodies, eg. PB I am thinking about upgrading my SFX (which is very loud), and will PB have to choose from MZ-5n, MZ-6 and *ist. PB I also heard that the film ist has plastic tripod mount.. is it true? PB Regards PB Peter B. PB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era bodies as well as the lenses. They might be enticed by the MZ-S (much more the same style in handling and feel), but certainly not enough of them would go for an *ist to make a reasonable business case. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 9:59:06 AM, you wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. JF It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; JF Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. JF So why not just stop the childish name-calling?
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Perhaps the K challenged mount would suffice. Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 10:48:56 AM, you wrote: ft You're right, John, ft We should call it a differently-abled mount. Or maybe a special mount. ft I'm starting to feel better about it already... ft vbg ft -frank (on his lawyer's advice) ft The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist ft fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. So why not just stop the childish name-calling? ft _ ft Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ft http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Hello Pieter, We were talking about the FILM *IST - not the DIGITAL *IST D. The film *ist is a very inexpensive camera targeted more at first time users who are going to buy the FAJ zooms. My point was, that the people who complain about the lack of support of older lenses (people who have the lenses, not a first time buyer who stumbles onto one) are not rushing out to buy an entry level SLR - they are using the previously mentioned bodies. The *ist D (digital) issue in regards to lens mount is a different story. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 12:58:52 PM, you wrote: PN On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 12:32:53PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era bodies as well as the lenses. PN This statement doesn't quite make sense to me. PN It's not just people who own older bodies which are conteporaneous with PN the older lenses who know of the lense' existance. PN Even someone whose first Pentax body was a recent MZ-whatever could still PN see old second hand K lenses on the shelves, buy them, and expect them to PN work as well in their *istD as they did in their MZ-5 or MZ-S.
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
I bought a film *ist as a backup to my *istD. Overall, it is quite nice and has enough features. Pretty usable overall. Certainly not an MZ-S by any stretch of the imagination, but at 1/3 cost, there are not very many features on the MZ-S that it is lacking. My daughter has been testing it for me, and she really likes it! I'm not sure if I'll be able to get it back when I need it. Especially she likes the general handling and she has been learning how to use DOF preview - the switch for that is the same as the MZ-S. Anyway, here's another vote for a great little film camera. In it's price range, it is very fine. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, December 31, 2003, 3:49:28 PM, you wrote: MR frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP being Amateur Photographer, a British mag. The did a three camera shootout with the Pentax, a Nikon F75, and whatever the equivalent priced Canon are. They had some sort of point-scoring system, and the Canon and the Nikon scored 89% each, and the Pentax scored 90%. I know, doesn't sound like much, but a win's a win, right? vbg Besides, the author went on to point out that in his mind, at least, the 1% difference (as scored) seemed much more noticeable to him in the real world, and that the Pentax really was the best of the bunch in his eyes. MR I got to try out the film *ist at Grandfather Mountain in June. It's MR really a dynamite camera. I'm seriously considering one as a replacement MR for my aging MX. MR Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital.
