RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Hi, I have had the experience of seeing/using many a lenses over the last 10 years due to ebay buy and try ( sell if you don't like ). Not only do these rubber rings sometimes get worn down, sometimes they crack and fall off and get lost! I am not saying it's a major problem with K/M lenses in nice near mint condtion but there some lenses outthere that have just taken a beating, like cars with over 500,000 miles. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars I don't know how JCO uses his lenses if he's wearing out the focusing rings. I have a lens or two still from my Nikon days that I bought used in 1981. They were used to make many thousands of pictures for twenty years in my hands. The rubberized focusing rings still look like they're brand new. So we can add to the Whack-A-Mole's ineptness the fact that he abuses these obsolete lenses. "You only hurt the ones you love ..." and all that, I guess. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:46 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > >> I have seen many a lenses in my day and >> On well used examples the rubber DOES >> Wear down. Its just not that durable >> Compared to metal rings. > > Durability wasn't the issue, that is just you trying to change the > subject to save face. > The issue was whether a knurled metal ring was preferable to a rubber > one in cold wether shooting. > Two people who shoot in cold wether told you something you didn't want > to hear, so you tried to change the subject. > Sorry John, it doesn't work that way. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I don't know how JCO uses his lenses if he's wearing out the focusing rings. I have a lens or two still from my Nikon days that I bought used in 1981. They were used to make many thousands of pictures for twenty years in my hands. The rubberized focusing rings still look like they're brand new. So we can add to the Whack-A-Mole's ineptness the fact that he abuses these obsolete lenses. "You only hurt the ones you love ..." and all that, I guess. Godfrey On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:46 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > >> I have seen many a lenses in my day and >> On well used examples the rubber DOES >> Wear down. Its just not that durable >> Compared to metal rings. > > Durability wasn't the issue, that is just you trying to change the > subject to save face. > The issue was whether a knurled metal ring was preferable to a rubber > one in cold wether shooting. > Two people who shoot in cold wether told you something you didn't want > to hear, so you tried to change the subject. > Sorry John, it doesn't work that way. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I have seen many a lenses in my day and On well used examples the rubber DOES Wear down. Its just not that durable Compared to metal rings. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > Listen mr thinks he knows it all, those rubber > Grips wear down and get slick while the huge > Protrusions in the metal rings we were talking > About don't. anybody who slips with those > Protuded metal lenses is a limp wristed > Wimp. You are both ignorant and a fool. You keep proving it by discussing things you know nothing about. I've never had a rubber focussing grip wear down, I have noticed that at -20F, rubber grips are easier to hold onto and turn compared to knurled metal. I do construction work, I am not a limp wristed little electronics engineer from Florida. > > Secondly, I have the opposite problem, > The heat here in FL, especially in the > Summer causes the rubber ones to get > Wet and slippery due to perspiration > And the metal protruded ones are better > For that too. The discussion was about cold weather shooting. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars >I have seen many a lenses in my day and > On well used examples the rubber DOES > Wear down. Its just not that durable > Compared to metal rings. Durability wasn't the issue, that is just you trying to change the subject to save face. The issue was whether a knurled metal ring was preferable to a rubber one in cold wether shooting. Two people who shoot in cold wether told you something you didn't want to hear, so you tried to change the subject. Sorry John, it doesn't work that way. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I didn't change the subject YOU DID. You claimed that the rubber rings Don't wear down and I told you correctly That they do. And when they wear down They are more slippery when when ribbed Or knurled as they come new. I don't need to save face. I stand behind Everything I post and on ocassions, make Mistakes. You on the other hand, keep making These really stupid arguments just to Support what is often a losing cause. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars >I have seen many a lenses in my day and > On well used examples the rubber DOES > Wear down. Its just not that durable > Compared to metal rings. Durability wasn't the issue, that is just you trying to change the subject to save face. The issue was whether a knurled metal ring was preferable to a rubber one in cold wether shooting. Two people who shoot in cold wether told you something you didn't want to hear, so you tried to change the subject. Sorry John, it doesn't work that way. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > Listen mr thinks he knows it all, those rubber > Grips wear down and get slick while the huge > Protrusions in the metal rings we were talking > About don't. anybody who slips with those > Protuded metal lenses is a limp wristed > Wimp. You are both ignorant and a fool. You keep proving it by discussing things you know nothing about. I've never had a rubber focussing grip wear down, I have noticed that at -20F, rubber grips are easier to hold onto and turn compared to knurled metal. I do construction work, I am not a limp wristed little electronics engineer from Florida. > > Secondly, I have the opposite problem, > The heat here in FL, especially in the > Summer causes the rubber ones to get > Wet and slippery due to perspiration > And the metal protruded ones are better > For that too. The discussion was about cold weather shooting. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
In the cold, the metal gets slick, the rubber doesn't.
I've got rubber-grip lenses dating back to pre-K/M era ('72-era Nikkors)
and none of them have worn down and gotten slick. The only slick rubber
grip lens I have is the SMC-F 35-70 which came that way, and it was a
cheap hunk of crap even when new.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> Listen mr thinks he knows it all, those rubber
> Grips wear down and get slick while the huge
> Protrusions in the metal rings we were talking
> About don't. anybody who slips with those
> Protuded metal lenses is a limp wristed
> Wimp.
>
> Secondly, I have the opposite problem,
> The heat here in FL, especially in the
> Summer causes the rubber ones to get
> Wet and slippery due to perspiration
> And the metal protruded ones are better
> For that too.
>
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> William Robb
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:11 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "J. C. O'Connell"
> Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
>
>
>> Look at these lenses, these lenses focus rings are not
>> Round, they have real big protrusions.
>> They are far less likely to slip than
>> Any smooth round rubber grip.
>
> You obviously don't shoot outside in very cold conditions.
> You don't know what you are talking about.
> People who use cameras in the cold do.
> Find a subject you know about.
>
> William Robb
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RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Listen mr thinks he knows it all, those rubber Grips wear down and get slick while the huge Protrusions in the metal rings we were talking About don't. anybody who slips with those Protuded metal lenses is a limp wristed Wimp. Secondly, I have the opposite problem, The heat here in FL, especially in the Summer causes the rubber ones to get Wet and slippery due to perspiration And the metal protruded ones are better For that too. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > Look at these lenses, these lenses focus rings are not > Round, they have real big protrusions. > They are far less likely to slip than > Any smooth round rubber grip. You obviously don't shoot outside in very cold conditions. You don't know what you are talking about. People who use cameras in the cold do. Find a subject you know about. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > Look at these lenses, these lenses focus rings are not > Round, they have real big protrusions. > They are far less likely to slip than > Any smooth round rubber grip. You obviously don't shoot outside in very cold conditions. You don't know what you are talking about. People who use cameras in the cold do. Find a subject you know about. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
John, I own one of these lenses (A very nice little Super Takumar 50/1.4). Only one of my rubber-grip lenses has a smooth grip (the $40 SMC-F 35-80 f4-5.6). The knurled rubber grips have more friction and grip better than the knurled metal units. Both are thoroughly usable (unlike the craptacular focus ring on the SMC-F 35-80) -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Look at these lenses, these lenses focus rings are not > Round, they have real big protrusions. > They are far less likely to slip than > Any smooth round rubber grip. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:05 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > Try them with gloves in -20C weather. The metal gets slick, the rubber > less so. > > -Adam > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> I don't get that one, the SMCT >> Lenses are nowhere near as >> Smooth as any rubber grip lenses. >> Its virtually impossible to slip >> With them. >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:03 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars >> >> I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in >> other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do > feel >> more solid. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>> Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is >>> identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer >>> the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think >>> they're nicer looking. >>> >>> But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence >>> operation at all. >>> >>> Godfrey >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: >>> >>>> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >>>> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >>>> - but >>>> they don't look so good :-) >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Look at these lenses, these lenses focus rings are not Round, they have real big protrusions. They are far less likely to slip than Any smooth round rubber grip. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:05 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars Try them with gloves in -20C weather. The metal gets slick, the rubber less so. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I don't get that one, the SMCT > Lenses are nowhere near as > Smooth as any rubber grip lenses. > Its virtually impossible to slip > With them. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:03 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in > other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do feel > more solid. > > -Adam > > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is >> identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer > >> the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think >> they're nicer looking. >> >> But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence >> operation at all. >> >> Godfrey >> >> On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: >> >>> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >>> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >>> - but >>> they don't look so good :-) >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Been there, done that. Soldier Field, Chicago. December, 1978. The temperature was -4 fahrenheit. The Spotmatic F and SMC Takumar 200/4 performed perfectly. Got one of my best sports action pics ever on the winning touchdown toss of the Chicago city championship. Paul On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Try them with gloves in -20C weather. The metal gets slick, the rubber > less so. > > -Adam > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> I don't get that one, the SMCT >> Lenses are nowhere near as >> Smooth as any rubber grip lenses. >> Its virtually impossible to slip >> With them. >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:03 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars >> >> I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in >> other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do >> feel >> more solid. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>> Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is >>> identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I >>> prefer >> >>> the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think >>> they're nicer looking. >>> >>> But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence >>> operation at all. >>> >>> Godfrey >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: >>> >>>> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >>>> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >>>> - but >>>> they don't look so good :-) >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Yep, they won't stop working, I'll give them that. But rubber doesn't lose grippiness. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: > Been there, done that. Soldier Field, Chicago. December, 1978. The > temperature was -4 fahrenheit. The Spotmatic F and SMC Takumar 200/4 > performed perfectly. Got one of my best sports action pics ever on > the winning touchdown toss of the Chicago city championship. > Paul > On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> Try them with gloves in -20C weather. The metal gets slick, the rubber >> less so. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> I don't get that one, the SMCT >>> Lenses are nowhere near as >>> Smooth as any rubber grip lenses. >>> Its virtually impossible to slip >>> With them. >>> jco >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Adam Maas >>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:03 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars >>> >>> I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in >>> other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do >>> feel >>> more solid. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>>> Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is >>>> identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I >>>> prefer >>>> the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think >>>> they're nicer looking. >>>> >>>> But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence >>>> operation at all. >>>> >>>> Godfrey >>>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >>>>> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >>>>> - but >>>>> they don't look so good :-) >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Try them with gloves in -20C weather. The metal gets slick, the rubber less so. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I don't get that one, the SMCT > Lenses are nowhere near as > Smooth as any rubber grip lenses. > Its virtually impossible to slip > With them. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:03 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in > other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do feel > more solid. > > -Adam > > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is >> identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer > >> the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think >> they're nicer looking. >> >> But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence >> operation at all. >> >> Godfrey >> >> On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: >> >>> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >>> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >>> - but >>> they don't look so good :-) >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I like the durability of the metal knurled Rings on the SMCT lenses much better than The later rubberized rings. In any case, I like the "feel" of the the SMCT Focus mechanism better than ANY lens, bar none, I have ever had the chance to focus. When In good non abused condtion they are simply Unmatched in that regard. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:00 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think they're nicer looking. But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence operation at all. Godfrey On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: > Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... > Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better > - but > they don't look so good :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I don't get that one, the SMCT Lenses are nowhere near as Smooth as any rubber grip lenses. Its virtually impossible to slip With them. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do feel more solid. -Adam Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is > identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer > the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think > they're nicer looking. > > But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence > operation at all. > > Godfrey > > On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: > >> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >> - but >> they don't look so good :-) > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Super-Multi-Coated Takumar SmC Pentax On Oct 21, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what > separates > those form others, please? > http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc > > - > > I had that lens as a teenager in the mid 60s. Eventually I sold it and > put the proceeds toward a Rolleicord. > > You know where to get one, Jens! > > Joe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
The 35/3.5 Super Tak is superb as well, but it doesn't have the latest coatings that the Super-Multi-Coated or SMC K versions boast.. Any SMC or Super-Multi-Coated Takumar is a superb lens. Wonderful on a Spotmatic, Spotmatic F, ES or ES2. Nice on a "D" as well with stop down metering. Which, by the way, is all you get on a Spotmatic. Paul Paul On Oct 21, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what > separates > those form others, please? > http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc > > - > > I had that lens as a teenager in the mid 60s. Eventually I sold it and > put the proceeds toward a Rolleicord. > > - > > Correction. This one is Super Multi-Coated. So I think in the mid > 60s I > must have had a predecessor lens. I do recall that it was a 35 F3.5, > which I got used from Brooks Camera on Geary Street in San > Francisco. I > had a paycheck burning a hole in my pocket that week. > > Joe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates those form others, please? http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc - I had that lens as a teenager in the mid 60s. Eventually I sold it and put the proceeds toward a Rolleicord. You know where to get one, Jens! Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates those form others, please? http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc - I had that lens as a teenager in the mid 60s. Eventually I sold it and put the proceeds toward a Rolleicord. - Correction. This one is Super Multi-Coated. So I think in the mid 60s I must have had a predecessor lens. I do recall that it was a 35 F3.5, which I got used from Brooks Camera on Geary Street in San Francisco. I had a paycheck burning a hole in my pocket that week. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think they're nicer looking. But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence operation at all. Godfrey On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: > Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... > Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better > - but > they don't look so good :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I prefer a good rubber ring as it's easier to grip with gloves and in other adverse conditions. The knurled rings slip, although they do feel more solid. -Adam Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Never really liked this style of knurled control ring much. It is > identical to the original Nikkors that my Nikon F came with. I prefer > the knurled control rings on the Nikkor AI-S lenses, and think > they're nicer looking. > > But this is just a matter of aesthetics and does not influence > operation at all. > > Godfrey > > On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: > >> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >> - but >> they don't look so good :-) > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Yes, you're right. I owned the zoom. Sold it recently for a fairly good price. The SMCT 85/1.9 is very rare because it was replaced almost immediately by the much better SMCT 85/1.8. Paul Paul On Oct 21, 2006, at 2:08 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Actualy no, there are certain models of Super-Multi-coated > Takumars that do NOT feature open aperture metering > Capability, The 85mm F1.9 SMCT is at least one, and I think > The 85-210 f4.5 zoom is also like that if I recall correctly. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:02 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > Any Super-Multi-Coated Takumar will have the latest optics and open > aperture capability. The rubber ring versions aren't superior. To my > mind, the metal rings are much nicer. > Paul > On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: > >> Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... >> Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better >> - but >> they don't look so good :-) >> >> Jens Bladt >> http://www.jensbladt.dk >> +45 56 63 77 11 >> +45 23 43 85 77 >> Skype: jensbladt248 >> >> -Oprindelig meddelelse- >> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne >> af P. J. >> Alling >> Sendt: 21. oktober 2006 19:24 >> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Emne: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars >> >> >> You'll need to be a little more specific than that. >> >> Jens Bladt wrote: >> >>> I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the >>> beautifully shaped >>> focusing ring. >>> What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what >>> separates >>> those form others, please? >>> http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc >>> >>> Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these >>> beautiful >>> rings - they look s good :-) >>> Regards >>> >>> Jens Bladt >>> http://www.jensbladt.dk >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: >>> 10/20/2006 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. >> >> --Albert Einstein >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: >> 10/20/2006 >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: >> 10/20/2006 >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
On 10/21/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actualy no, there are certain models of Super-Multi-coated > Takumars that do NOT feature open aperture metering > Capability, The 85mm F1.9 SMCT is at least one, and I think > The 85-210 f4.5 zoom is also like that if I recall correctly. My Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 400/5.6 is manual stopdown only. It is a beautiful lens despite that, though. A bit bulky and impractical for the kind of shooting I tend to do, unfortunately. :-( -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Actualy no, there are certain models of Super-Multi-coated Takumars that do NOT feature open aperture metering Capability, The 85mm F1.9 SMCT is at least one, and I think The 85-210 f4.5 zoom is also like that if I recall correctly. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars Any Super-Multi-Coated Takumar will have the latest optics and open aperture capability. The rubber ring versions aren't superior. To my mind, the metal rings are much nicer. Paul On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: > Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... > Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better > - but > they don't look so good :-) > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > +45 56 63 77 11 > +45 23 43 85 77 > Skype: jensbladt248 > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne > af P. J. > Alling > Sendt: 21. oktober 2006 19:24 > Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Emne: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > > You'll need to be a little more specific than that. > > Jens Bladt wrote: > >> I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the >> beautifully shaped >> focusing ring. >> What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what >> separates >> those form others, please? >> http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc >> >> Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful >> rings - they look s good :-) >> Regards >> >> Jens Bladt >> http://www.jensbladt.dk >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: >> 10/20/2006 >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: > 10/20/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: > 10/20/2006 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Any Super-Multi-Coated Takumar will have the latest optics and open aperture capability. The rubber ring versions aren't superior. To my mind, the metal rings are much nicer. Paul On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: > Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... > Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better > - but > they don't look so good :-) > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > +45 56 63 77 11 > +45 23 43 85 77 > Skype: jensbladt248 > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne > af P. J. > Alling > Sendt: 21. oktober 2006 19:24 > Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Emne: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars > > > You'll need to be a little more specific than that. > > Jens Bladt wrote: > >> I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the >> beautifully shaped >> focusing ring. >> What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what >> separates >> those form others, please? >> http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc >> >> Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful >> rings - they look s good :-) >> Regards >> >> Jens Bladt >> http://www.jensbladt.dk >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: >> 10/20/2006 >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > > --Albert Einstein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: > 10/20/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: > 10/20/2006 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Well, I cant show you the auction I'm bidding on ... Perhaps the later Takumar versions, with a rubber ring, are better - but they don't look so good :-) Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 21. oktober 2006 19:24 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars You'll need to be a little more specific than that. Jens Bladt wrote: >I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the beautifully shaped >focusing ring. >What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates >those form others, please? >http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc > >Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful >rings - they look s good :-) >Regards > >Jens Bladt >http://www.jensbladt.dk > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
You'll need to be a little more specific than that. Jens Bladt wrote: >I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the beautifully shaped >focusing ring. >What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates >those form others, please? >http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc > >Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful >rings - they look s good :-) >Regards > >Jens Bladt >http://www.jensbladt.dk > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Actually the spotmatic F came with the later version Of the SMCT lenses with the round rubberized focus rings, Not the one in your pic. They were labelled "SMC" takumars Instead of "Super-Multi-Coated" takumars on the front ring. joc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the beautifully shaped focusing ring. What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates those form others, please? http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful rings - they look s good :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
Super Takumar and earlier lenses have those rings, some SMC takumars have them as well. Pentax (And everybody else) stopped making them because rubber rings have a more positive grip and are cheaper to make. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: > I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the beautifully shaped > focusing ring. > What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates > those form others, please? > http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc > > Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful > rings - they look s good :-) > Regards > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I wnat a Spotmatic F. Or at least I want a lens with the beautifully shaped focusing ring. What should I search for in order to get a lens like that/what separates those form others, please? http://tinyurl.com/yj2zcc Personally I think it's a shame Pentax gave up making these beautiful rings - they look s good :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
