Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Jack!  I hope to do more hiking.  Have already spent way too much time 
looking at photo hiking bags!  :-
Cheers, Christine


On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> Wonderful collection, Christine! Magnificent scale well caught.
> 
> Jack 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christine Aguila" 
> To: "PDML" 
> Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:48:43 AM
> Subject: Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park
> 
> Thanks, Ann.  There are fence guards at the top of the rock now.  And stairs 
> have been built to get to the top.   I’m sure you wouldn’t recognize the 
> place now.  The rock was ok, but I preferred the canyon trails—much more 
> interesting.  I really hope to do all.  The place is open 365 days rain or 
> shine, snow or slush.  January is supposed to be good for bald eagles.
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>> ah - Starved rock! much visited in my childhood. You capatured it nicely 
>> and, I see, avoided what I called Acrphobia point - the actual
>> Starved Rock... I clung to my mother's skirts holding her back from the
>> edge... I can still feel the shivers. She just laughed but gently.
>> I don't know if they have a fence there now... there certainly wasn't one in 
>> 1943.
>> 
>> I love daddy-long-legs  and like your shot of him - the shadows nice.
>> 
>> What I do with white balance and the K-5 is set it on auto but chimp
>> immediately the press the wb button to play with it before shooting more.  
>> Most of the time AWB does do it best, but sometimes definitely not so I like 
>> that feature... (not on the K-3??) Of course I've been
>> known to forget I dialed in a specific WB and had to correct in Elements 
>> later.
>> 
>> particularly like this shot
>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/content/_IMG3178_large.html
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/1/2014 16:44, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone:
>>> 
>>> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
>>> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
>>> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left 
>>> around 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little 
>>> town of a thousand with a three block Main Street area.
>>> 
>>> I have a few questions:
>>> 
>>> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow 
>>> forcing me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other 
>>> K-3 shooters found this to their experience as well and what any 
>>> compensation techniques have been employed.
>>> 
>>> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
>>> Low
>>> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough 
>>> bag to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much 
>>> personal items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a 
>>> vertical carry for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be 
>>> doing more hiking in future, so I find myself now in the market for a 
>>> hiking camera bag. If anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can 
>>> accommodate gear and personal items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a 
>>> vertical carry for a tripod, I'd welcome the suggestions.
>>> 
>>> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
>>> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
>>> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
>>> All the shots in the gallery were handheld.
>>> 
>>> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
>>> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm 
>>> most definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking 
>>> goals.
>>> 
>>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I agree the rock isn't very intersting in itself - just the history.
THey probably fenced it after someone took a header off it at some point.

On a road trip back in the 60's to visit my mom in Chicago My then hubby 
and I went to Clifty Falls.. it was 1967 and there had not been much 
rain... Clifty fails was Clifty faucet drip.


Yes, walking the canyons would be very nice

ann

On 9/6/2014 11:48, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks, Ann.  There are fence guards at the top of the rock now.  And stairs 
have been built to get to the top.   I’m sure you wouldn’t recognize the place 
now.  The rock was ok, but I preferred the canyon trails—much more interesting. 
 I really hope to do all.  The place is open 365 days rain or shine, snow or 
slush.  January is supposed to be good for bald eagles.

Cheers, Christine


On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


ah - Starved rock! much visited in my childhood. You capatured it nicely and, I 
see, avoided what I called Acrphobia point - the actual
Starved Rock... I clung to my mother's skirts holding her back from the
edge... I can still feel the shivers. She just laughed but gently.
I don't know if they have a fence there now... there certainly wasn't one in 
1943.

I love daddy-long-legs  and like your shot of him - the shadows nice.

What I do with white balance and the K-5 is set it on auto but chimp
immediately the press the wb button to play with it before shooting more.  Most 
of the time AWB does do it best, but sometimes definitely not so I like that 
feature... (not on the K-3??) Of course I've been
known to forget I dialed in a specific WB and had to correct in Elements later.

particularly like this shot
http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/content/_IMG3178_large.html

ann


On 9/1/2014 16:44, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is about 
two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the Labor Day 
holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 2:30 for 
lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a thousand 
with a three block Main Street area.

I have a few questions:

1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing me 
to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 shooters 
found this to their experience as well and what any compensation techniques 
have been employed.

2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the Low
Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal items. 
 It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry for the 
tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking in future, 
so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If anyone has a 
nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal items, is not a 
sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd welcome the suggestions.

3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my ability, 
so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  All the 
shots in the gallery were handheld.

Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and the 
park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.

http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html

Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!

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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-06 Thread Jack Davis
Wonderful collection, Christine! Magnificent scale well caught.

Jack 

- Original Message -
From: "Christine Aguila" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:48:43 AM
Subject: Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

Thanks, Ann.  There are fence guards at the top of the rock now.  And stairs 
have been built to get to the top.   I’m sure you wouldn’t recognize the place 
now.  The rock was ok, but I preferred the canyon trails—much more interesting. 
 I really hope to do all.  The place is open 365 days rain or shine, snow or 
slush.  January is supposed to be good for bald eagles.

Cheers, Christine


On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> ah - Starved rock! much visited in my childhood. You capatured it nicely and, 
> I see, avoided what I called Acrphobia point - the actual
> Starved Rock... I clung to my mother's skirts holding her back from the
> edge... I can still feel the shivers. She just laughed but gently.
> I don't know if they have a fence there now... there certainly wasn't one in 
> 1943.
> 
> I love daddy-long-legs  and like your shot of him - the shadows nice.
> 
> What I do with white balance and the K-5 is set it on auto but chimp
> immediately the press the wb button to play with it before shooting more.  
> Most of the time AWB does do it best, but sometimes definitely not so I like 
> that feature... (not on the K-3??) Of course I've been
> known to forget I dialed in a specific WB and had to correct in Elements 
> later.
> 
> particularly like this shot
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/content/_IMG3178_large.html
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 9/1/2014 16:44, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
>> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
>> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
>> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
>> thousand with a three block Main Street area.
>> 
>> I have a few questions:
>> 
>> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
>> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
>> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
>> techniques have been employed.
>> 
>> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
>> Low
>> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough 
>> bag to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
>> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
>> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
>> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
>> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
>> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
>> welcome the suggestions.
>> 
>> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
>> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
>> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
>> All the shots in the gallery were handheld.
>> 
>> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
>> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm 
>> most definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking 
>> goals.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>> 
>> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Ann.  There are fence guards at the top of the rock now.  And stairs 
have been built to get to the top.   I’m sure you wouldn’t recognize the place 
now.  The rock was ok, but I preferred the canyon trails—much more interesting. 
 I really hope to do all.  The place is open 365 days rain or shine, snow or 
slush.  January is supposed to be good for bald eagles.

Cheers, Christine


On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> ah - Starved rock! much visited in my childhood. You capatured it nicely and, 
> I see, avoided what I called Acrphobia point - the actual
> Starved Rock... I clung to my mother's skirts holding her back from the
> edge... I can still feel the shivers. She just laughed but gently.
> I don't know if they have a fence there now... there certainly wasn't one in 
> 1943.
> 
> I love daddy-long-legs  and like your shot of him - the shadows nice.
> 
> What I do with white balance and the K-5 is set it on auto but chimp
> immediately the press the wb button to play with it before shooting more.  
> Most of the time AWB does do it best, but sometimes definitely not so I like 
> that feature... (not on the K-3??) Of course I've been
> known to forget I dialed in a specific WB and had to correct in Elements 
> later.
> 
> particularly like this shot
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/content/_IMG3178_large.html
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 9/1/2014 16:44, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
>> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
>> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
>> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
>> thousand with a three block Main Street area.
>> 
>> I have a few questions:
>> 
>> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
>> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
>> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
>> techniques have been employed.
>> 
>> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
>> Low
>> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough 
>> bag to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
>> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
>> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
>> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
>> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
>> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
>> welcome the suggestions.
>> 
>> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
>> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
>> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
>> All the shots in the gallery were handheld.
>> 
>> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
>> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm 
>> most definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking 
>> goals.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>> 
>> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
ah - Starved rock! much visited in my childhood. You capatured it nicely 
and, I see, avoided what I called Acrphobia point - the actual

Starved Rock... I clung to my mother's skirts holding her back from the
edge... I can still feel the shivers. She just laughed but gently.
I don't know if they have a fence there now... there certainly wasn't 
one in 1943.


I love daddy-long-legs  and like your shot of him - the shadows nice.

What I do with white balance and the K-5 is set it on auto but chimp
immediately the press the wb button to play with it before shooting 
more.  Most of the time AWB does do it best, but sometimes definitely 
not so I like that feature... (not on the K-3??) Of course I've been
known to forget I dialed in a specific WB and had to correct in Elements 
later.


 particularly like this shot
http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/content/_IMG3178_large.html

ann


On 9/1/2014 16:44, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is about 
two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the Labor Day 
holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 2:30 for 
lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a thousand 
with a three block Main Street area.

I have a few questions:

1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing me 
to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 shooters 
found this to their experience as well and what any compensation techniques 
have been employed.

2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the Low
Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal items. 
 It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry for the 
tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking in future, 
so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If anyone has a 
nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal items, is not a 
sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd welcome the suggestions.

3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my ability, 
so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  All the 
shots in the gallery were handheld.

Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and the 
park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.

http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html

Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!

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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-03 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Don!  Kind of you to say so!  Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> Ditto Ottawa Canyon. Your series reminds me of a state park nearby. I like to 
> hike. I like to photograph & I like to combine the two. But the my results 
> never really capture the ambiance of the trek to my satisfaction. Ottawa 
> Canyon does.
> 
> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 16:33:07 -0500
>> From: Bob Sullivan 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> Like Paul said, nice set with Ottawa Canyon as a favorite.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>>> wrote:
>>> A nice set. Ottawa Canyon is my favorite.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-02 Thread Don Guthrie
Ditto Ottawa Canyon. Your series reminds me of a state park nearby. I 
like to hike. I like to photograph & I like to combine the two. But the 
my results never really capture the ambiance of the trek to my 
satisfaction. Ottawa Canyon does.




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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 16:33:07 -0500
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Like Paul said, nice set with Ottawa Canyon as a favorite.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

A nice set. Ottawa Canyon is my favorite.

Paul via phone




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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Chris Mitchell
Lovely layers and textures Christine.

White balance is always going to be something of a compromise,
particularly with sunlight and shade so there's usually a bit of
tweaking to do. Just a few seconds work which would have taken hours
in the darkroom...

Chris

On 1 September 2014 21:44, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
> thousand with a three block Main Street area.
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
> techniques have been employed.
>
> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
> Low
> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
> to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
> welcome the suggestions.
>
> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
> All the shots in the gallery were handheld.
>
> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
> definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.
>
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>
> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks everyone for the advice. Vey much appreciated. Cheers, Christine 

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> On Sep 1, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Pentax K-3 and K-5  RAW files — or more correctly the tonality of the image 
> that appear when those files are first opened — are affected by the WB 
> setting. Getting it close when shooting seems to be an advantage in terms of 
> dialing in the final white balance, although it might be purely 
> psychological. AWB gets them darn close. The final tweak  is then quite easy 
> — even if you skip the grey card preshoot or can’t find a neutral object in 
> the image.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> If you shoot raw the white balance doesn't matter at shooting time. You 
>> shouldn't have to dial individual colours up or down, just change the wb 
>> setting in LR.
>> 
>> As for the bag question, I've used various set-ups, none of them perfect. A 
>> LowePro S&F Rover Light 
>> 
>> http://www.nicklathamphotography.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/MG_8854_w1.jpg)
>> 
>> works quite well though, and meets all your criteria. I tend to keep the 
>> camera out of the bag, over my shoulder. Compass, magnifier, whistle, light 
>> meter around my neck, map in one hand, water/thermos in a side pouch of the 
>> bag or in the top compartment with lunch and non-photo items such as 
>> foul-weather gear, camera stuff in the bottom of the bag; tripod, if used, 
>> is vertical on the back of the bag. When I need something from the bag I put 
>> it down.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> On 1 Sep 2014, at 21:45, "Christine Aguila"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone:
>>> 
>>> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
>>> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
>>> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left 
>>> around 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little 
>>> town of a thousand with a three block Main Street area. 
>>> 
>>> I have a few questions:
>>> 
>>> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow 
>>> forcing me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other 
>>> K-3 shooters found this to their experience as well and what any 
>>> compensation techniques have been employed. 
>>> 
>>> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
>>> Low
>>> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough 
>>> bag to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much 
>>> personal items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a 
>>> vertical carry for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be 
>>> doing more hiking in future, so I find myself now in the market for a 
>>> hiking camera bag. If anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can 
>>> accommodate gear and personal items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a 
>>> vertical carry for a tripod, I'd welcome the suggestions. 
>>> 
>>> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
>>> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
>>> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
>>> All the shots in the gallery were handheld. 
>>> 
>>> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
>>> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm 
>>> most definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking 
>>> goals.  
>>> 
>>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax K-3 and K-5  RAW files — or more correctly the tonality of the image 
that appear when those files are first opened — are affected by the WB setting. 
Getting it close when shooting seems to be an advantage in terms of dialing in 
the final white balance, although it might be purely psychological. AWB gets 
them darn close. The final tweak  is then quite easy — even if you skip the 
grey card preshoot or can’t find a neutral object in the image.


On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> If you shoot raw the white balance doesn't matter at shooting time. You 
> shouldn't have to dial individual colours up or down, just change the wb 
> setting in LR.
> 
> As for the bag question, I've used various set-ups, none of them perfect. A 
> LowePro S&F Rover Light 
> 
> http://www.nicklathamphotography.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/MG_8854_w1.jpg)
> 
> works quite well though, and meets all your criteria. I tend to keep the 
> camera out of the bag, over my shoulder. Compass, magnifier, whistle, light 
> meter around my neck, map in one hand, water/thermos in a side pouch of the 
> bag or in the top compartment with lunch and non-photo items such as 
> foul-weather gear, camera stuff in the bottom of the bag; tripod, if used, is 
> vertical on the back of the bag. When I need something from the bag I put it 
> down.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 1 Sep 2014, at 21:45, "Christine Aguila"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
>> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
>> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
>> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
>> thousand with a three block Main Street area. 
>> 
>> I have a few questions:
>> 
>> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
>> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
>> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
>> techniques have been employed. 
>> 
>> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
>> Low
>> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough 
>> bag to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
>> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
>> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
>> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
>> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
>> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
>> welcome the suggestions. 
>> 
>> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
>> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
>> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
>> All the shots in the gallery were handheld. 
>> 
>> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
>> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm 
>> most definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking 
>> goals.  
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>> 
>> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Bob W-PDML
If you shoot raw the white balance doesn't matter at shooting time. You 
shouldn't have to dial individual colours up or down, just change the wb 
setting in LR.

As for the bag question, I've used various set-ups, none of them perfect. A 
LowePro S&F Rover Light 

http://www.nicklathamphotography.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/MG_8854_w1.jpg)

works quite well though, and meets all your criteria. I tend to keep the camera 
out of the bag, over my shoulder. Compass, magnifier, whistle, light meter 
around my neck, map in one hand, water/thermos in a side pouch of the bag or in 
the top compartment with lunch and non-photo items such as foul-weather gear, 
camera stuff in the bottom of the bag; tripod, if used, is vertical on the back 
of the bag. When I need something from the bag I put it down.

B

> On 1 Sep 2014, at 21:45, "Christine Aguila"  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
> thousand with a three block Main Street area. 
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
> techniques have been employed. 
> 
> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
> Low
> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
> to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
> welcome the suggestions. 
> 
> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
> All the shots in the gallery were handheld. 
> 
> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
> definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.  
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
> 
> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Like Paul said, nice set with Ottawa Canyon as a favorite.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> A nice set. Ottawa Canyon is my favorite.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
>> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
>> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
>> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
>> thousand with a three block Main Street area.
>>
>> I have a few questions:
>>
>> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
>> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
>> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
>> techniques have been employed.
>>
>> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
>> Low
>> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough 
>> bag to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
>> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
>> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
>> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
>> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
>> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
>> welcome the suggestions.
>>
>> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
>> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
>> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
>> All the shots in the gallery were handheld.
>>
>> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
>> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm 
>> most definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking 
>> goals.
>>
>> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
>>
>> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Rick Womer
Great gallery, Christine! I especially like the daddy longlegs (#4) and the 
mossy rock face (#5).

I see what you mean about a yellow cast.  Are you shooting RAW? It actually 
makes WB correction simple.  When the light is weird I take a snap of a small 
grey card I keep in my camera bag, or the "18% Grey" cap I often wear (bought 
at the George Eastman House). In Lightroom, I use the eyedropper WB tool on the 
card or cap shot, and use the resulting settings for the series.

Cheers,

Rick

On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
> 
> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
> thousand with a three block Main Street area. 
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
> techniques have been employed. 
> 
> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
> Low
> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
> to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
> welcome the suggestions. 
> 
> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
> All the shots in the gallery were handheld. 
> 
> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
> definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.  
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
> 
> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
A nice set. Ottawa Canyon is my favorite.

Paul via phone

> On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
> thousand with a three block Main Street area. 
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
> techniques have been employed. 
> 
> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
> Low
> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
> to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
> welcome the suggestions. 
> 
> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
> All the shots in the gallery were handheld. 
> 
> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
> definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.  
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
> 
> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
> 
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Re: The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
The shade wb setting is for deep, gloomy shade with a lot of blue sky fill. I 
use AWB for almost every situation, then set final color by eye or with the ARC 
eye dropper. But AWB is usually the best bet for coming close.

Paul via phone

> On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is 
> about two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the 
> Labor Day holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 
> 2:30 for lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a 
> thousand with a three block Main Street area. 
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
> 1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing 
> me to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 
> shooters found this to their experience as well and what any compensation 
> techniques have been employed. 
> 
> 2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the 
> Low
> Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
> to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal 
> items.  It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry 
> for the tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking 
> in future, so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If 
> anyone has a nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal 
> items, is not a sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd 
> welcome the suggestions. 
> 
> 3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
> inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my 
> ability, so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  
> All the shots in the gallery were handheld. 
> 
> Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and 
> the park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
> definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.  
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html
> 
> Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!
> 
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The Grinch at Starved Rock State Park

2014-09-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone:

Did a 5 mile hike at Starved Rock State Park yesterday.  Starved Rock is about 
two hours from Chicago, a very easy drive. Place was packed given the Labor Day 
holiday, but we got there early, got our walk in, then left around 2:30 for 
lunch and a walk around Utica, Illinois, a quaint little town of a thousand 
with a three block Main Street area. 

I have a few questions:

1) My white balance setting, Shade, seems to capture a lot of yellow forcing me 
to dial yellow down during post-processing. I wondered if other K-3 shooters 
found this to their experience as well and what any compensation techniques 
have been employed. 

2). I may be getting Charles Robinson's Fastpack 250. On my hike I took the Low
Pro MicroTrekker, which is a great fit on the back, but I find it a tough bag 
to work out of, and it doesn't allow for a water bottle or much personal items. 
 It does have two bottom tripod straps, but I want a vertical carry for the 
tripod on my next hiking camera bag. I hope to be doing more hiking in future, 
so I find myself now in the market for a hiking camera bag. If anyone has a 
nice hiking camera bag which can accommodate gear and personal items, is not a 
sloppy fit, and has a vertical carry for a tripod, I'd welcome the suggestions. 

3). I didn't have my tripod with me on this trek because I'm actually an 
inexperienced hiker and didn't know what to expect of the trails or my ability, 
so I left the tripod at home.  I will be taking it the next trip.  All the 
shots in the gallery were handheld. 

Here's my gallery from yesterday's hike. It was a wonderfully fun day, and the 
park is really great. There are a lot more trails to explore, so I'm most 
definitively going back. I've made some short and long term hiking goals.  

http://www.caguila.com/rockaug312014/index.html

Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine, and Happy Labor Day!

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