Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Darren Addy
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I'll be
> curious to see how big that Q zoom is.

I took the leaked image of the 06 and an image of the 02 standard zoom
and sized them so that the mount was an identical width and this is what
I got for relative sizes:

http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/QzoomsRelativeSizes.jpg

Looking at the lettering on the lens, the new telephoto zoom may be a
bit larger than shown, but not by a whole lot.

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabe-Sugano_diagram

How's your ligand field theory?  I remembered the term but had to look
up exactly what it was.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> How about 10Dq?
>> ;-)
>>
>> (I apologize to the rest of PDMLers, - this is a very scientific pun
>> that would be understood only by some chemists and even fewer physicists.)
>
> Can you point those of us who are merely nerds to a hint?
>
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>> Fri Sep 7 11:17:21 EDT 2012
>> Steven Desjardins
>>
>>> The repressed Q punnery is beginning to emerge.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Walker  
>>> wrote:
 At least they didn't predict the opposite order:

 10Q

 10Q very much.
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> 
> Steve,
> 
> How about 10Dq? 
> ;-)
> 
> (I apologize to the rest of PDMLers, - this is a very scientific pun
> that would be understood only by some chemists and even fewer physicists.)

Can you point those of us who are merely nerds to a hint?

> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> Fri Sep 7 11:17:21 EDT 2012
> Steven Desjardins 
> 
>> The repressed Q punnery is beginning to emerge.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Walker  
>> wrote:
>>> At least they didn't predict the opposite order:
>>> 
>>> 10Q
>>> 
>>> 10Q very much.
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Walt Gilbert
Wonder what kind of price-point to expect on that 18-270. That's an 
extremely appealing focal range.


On 9/7/2012 11:08 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

If the 9 announcement number was correct... how many do we have left?

New Q
New Q lens
645 macro
18-270mm rebadge

Still presuming the Q K-mount adapter leaves 4.

Guessing: 645D mkII, K-5 mkII, flash and K-z/K300 ?




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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Igor Roshchin

Steve,

How about 10Dq? 
;-)

(I apologize to the rest of PDMLers, - this is a very scientific pun
that would be understood only by some chemists and even fewer physicists.)

Igor


Fri Sep 7 11:17:21 EDT 2012
Steven Desjardins 

> The repressed Q punnery is beginning to emerge.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Walker  
> wrote:
> > At least they didn't predict the opposite order:
> >
> > 10Q
> >
> > 10Q very much.

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, it seems that there will be K-5II and K-5IIs, so that leaves two 
slots for Tanya's FF K mount.  I however will believe that, when I see 
Cotty eat his hat.


On 9/7/2012 12:08 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

If the 9 announcement number was correct... how many do we have left?

New Q
New Q lens
645 macro
18-270mm rebadge

Still presuming the Q K-mount adapter leaves 4.

Guessing: 645D mkII, K-5 mkII, flash and K-z/K300 ?




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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Boris Liberman

On 9/7/2012 3:44 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
Yay!



Fascinating news... I've read your posts on that forum page that you 
just linked, Darren. You appear to be very happy about Q. I, OTOH, would 
rather keep shooting with my Ricoh GXR and 50 mm (EFL) module. The shots 
I've been able to obtain with it are most impressive (for me).


I do hope though that this will provoke more competitors of Pentax to do 
things in a unorthodox way. Small sensor or not, but Q is surely 
unorthodox and although I don't see myself owing Q, I do hope it will 
benefit me as well, only implicitly.



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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yeah, but the 645 version will cost 4 times as much.  ;-)  I'll be
curious to see how big that Q zoom is.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> A Pentax Q lens (the 06) has been leaked. A 15-45mm f2.8 zoom (84-250mm 
> equiv.)
> Still hoping there is an 07 for the PRIME crowd.
>
> Also leaked, a 90mm DFA Macro for the 645 and what is apparently just
> a rebadge of an existing Tamron for the 18-270mm.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> The repressed Q punnery is beginning to emerge.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>> At least they didn't predict the opposite order:
>>>
>>> 10Q
>>>
>>> 10Q very much.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:10 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
>>>  wrote:
 Hmmm... That was possibly the lamest pun ever. But seriously, a rumor that 
 claims the name Q10? Doesn't sound very likely to me...

 "AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne"  wrote:

>Q10, eh?
>Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)
>
>Darren Addy  wrote:
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>>http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Mark C

On 9/7/2012 8:44 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
Yay!

Excellent news! Let's hope for a dedicated Q prime macro - a 20mm f2.8 
would be sweet. Q-ED lens!


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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Darren Addy
Oops. Forgot the 560mm presumed to be real. So scratch one (or combine
a couple of products into one announcment - like all the Q stuff
together???)

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> If the 9 announcement number was correct... how many do we have left?
>
> New Q
> New Q lens
> 645 macro
> 18-270mm rebadge
>
> Still presuming the Q K-mount adapter leaves 4.
>
> Guessing: 645D mkII, K-5 mkII, flash and K-z/K300 ?



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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Darren Addy
If the 9 announcement number was correct... how many do we have left?

New Q
New Q lens
645 macro
18-270mm rebadge

Still presuming the Q K-mount adapter leaves 4.

Guessing: 645D mkII, K-5 mkII, flash and K-z/K300 ?

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Darren Addy
A Pentax Q lens (the 06) has been leaked. A 15-45mm f2.8 zoom (84-250mm equiv.)
Still hoping there is an 07 for the PRIME crowd.

Also leaked, a 90mm DFA Macro for the 645 and what is apparently just
a rebadge of an existing Tamron for the 18-270mm.


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> The repressed Q punnery is beginning to emerge.
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> At least they didn't predict the opposite order:
>>
>> 10Q
>>
>> 10Q very much.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:10 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
>>  wrote:
>>> Hmmm... That was possibly the lamest pun ever. But seriously, a rumor that 
>>> claims the name Q10? Doesn't sound very likely to me...
>>>
>>> "AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne"  wrote:
>>>
Q10, eh?
Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)

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>http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
>Yay!
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
The repressed Q punnery is beginning to emerge.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> At least they didn't predict the opposite order:
>
> 10Q
>
> 10Q very much.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:10 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
>  wrote:
>> Hmmm... That was possibly the lamest pun ever. But seriously, a rumor that 
>> claims the name Q10? Doesn't sound very likely to me...
>>
>> "AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne"  wrote:
>>
>>>Q10, eh?
>>>Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)
>>>
>>>Darren Addy  wrote:
>>>
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
Yay!

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
They should use primes, i.e.,  Q', Q", etc. . ..

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:10 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
 wrote:
> Hmmm... That was possibly the lamest pun ever. But seriously, a rumor that 
> claims the name Q10? Doesn't sound very likely to me...
>
> "AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne"  wrote:
>
>>Q10, eh?
>>Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)
>>
>>Darren Addy  wrote:
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>>>Yay!
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Bruce Walker
At least they didn't predict the opposite order:

10Q

10Q very much.


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:10 AM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
 wrote:
> Hmmm... That was possibly the lamest pun ever. But seriously, a rumor that 
> claims the name Q10? Doesn't sound very likely to me...
>
> "AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne"  wrote:
>
>>Q10, eh?
>>Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)
>>
>>Darren Addy  wrote:
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>>>http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
>>>Yay!
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
Hmmm... That was possibly the lamest pun ever. But seriously, a rumor that 
claims the name Q10? Doesn't sound very likely to me...

"AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne"  wrote:

>Q10, eh?
>Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)
>
>Darren Addy  wrote:
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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
Q10, eh?
Bet that will become ubiquitous bar none. :-)

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Darren Addy
It looks like the same size sensor to me. And unless they engineered
the Q lenses to cover a larger image circle, they *can't* put a bigger
sensor in the Q.
But this is still terrific news for any fan of the Q. It means they
have not abandoned it, and that means that even more lens support may
be coming. Still hoping for a fast wide angle to be made for it.

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread P. J. Alling

That's probably wishful thinking on both points.

On 9/7/2012 9:11 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Larger sensor and the right price.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
Yay!

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Re: The NEW Pentax Q

2012-09-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
Larger sensor and the right price.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198154-new-pentax-q-2012-a.html
> Yay!
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