Was Wire Welder, Now Gelatin Silver look on Inkjet
Epson Exhibition Fiber paper has the look of a gelatin silver fiber-based paper with slight texture and mild lustre. Some other inkjet papers are very close copies of darkroom papers as well. Of course all modern BW darkroom printing paper is gelatin silver. That's the chemistry not the paper look. I think Christine is right that the depth one feels in looking at a print from a large format neg is partly due to the format. Large format provides incredible detail in the focal range but minimal depth of field, even with relatively wide lenses. That translates to perceived depth. Paul On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: I wish I could help, Bruce, but I don't know enough about the variety of inkjet papers to know which comes closes to gelatin silver prints. Nor do I know a lot about gelatin silver prints. Maybe one day the Karsh exhibit will come to Chicago, and I'll be able to see what you're talking about. I wonder if the depth you mention has more to do with using a large format camera than the paper and chemical printing process. Just thinking out loud here. Would love to see the Karsh exhibit you reference here. Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed seeing the work. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:08 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder I'm at a serious disadvantage trying to discuss photo paper as I pretty much bypassed all the chemical stuff. (After dabbling with BW developing, I quit shooting in the early 1980's and publicly stated that I wouldn't try photography again until they invented digital cameras and LCD displays.) But I've recently seen some outstanding industrial work, large format shots taken in operating steel works and auto assembly lines, printed at sizes around 2 by 3 feet. These were in an exhibition of commercial work by Karsh that's currently touring. http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/atlas_steel/ http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/ford_canada/ Of course you can't tell from the screen, but these gelatin silver prints have a quietly impressive depth and lustre. I'd love to be able to print on some paper that even came half-way to matching the look he got from this stuff. Can ink-jet approximate this, or is it only possible with trad photo-paper? I guess that at this point the analog film buffs are rolling their eyes and would say, *this* is why we still shoot film. -bmw On 11-02-15 7:08 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Love the bw square crop. I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print for this picture. But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. To my eye, sometimes basic glossy paper looks kind of cheap. Nice job, Darren. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Wire Welder
From: Darren Addy That's one hell of an eye you've got there John! http://www.dpnebraska.com/images/thinblacks.png ;) Pull the left input level up to about 5 ought to do the trick. I hold down the alt key and pull the slider to the right until it starts to show it blocking up. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3446 - Release Date: 02/15/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Looks to me that Paul Steady Stenquist may have just acquired a good competition here... Well done! On 2/9/2011 11:55 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad I love this one!! Would you consider a square crop to get rid of that orange mass on the right? Just a thought... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Darren Addy Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ The blacks in the BW seem kind of thin to me. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3444 - Release Date: 02/14/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's one hell of an eye you've got there John! http://www.dpnebraska.com/images/thinblacks.png ;) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Darren Addy Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ The blacks in the BW seem kind of thin to me. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3444 - Release Date: 02/14/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Love the bw square crop. I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print for this picture. But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. To my eye, sometimes basic glossy paper looks kind of cheap. Nice job, Darren. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Both crops are very good. Much stronger images without that distraction on the right. I may be the odd man out here, but I prefer the color shot. I like the sparks with a tinge of red. Maybe experiment with desaturating the color image a bit. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Love the bw square crop. I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print for this picture. But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. To my eye, sometimes basic glossy paper looks kind of cheap. Nice job, Darren. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Both crops are very good. Much stronger images without that distraction on the right. I may be the odd man out here, but I prefer the color shot. I like the sparks with a tinge of red. Maybe experiment with desaturating the color image a bit. The square crop is a lot better. I too, prefer the color. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Love the bw square crop. I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print for this picture. But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. To my eye, sometimes basic glossy paper looks kind of cheap. Nice job, Darren. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I go with the BW as the smoke / haze is less noticeable than it is in the color version. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 1:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm at a serious disadvantage trying to discuss photo paper as I pretty much bypassed all the chemical stuff. (After dabbling with BW developing, I quit shooting in the early 1980's and publicly stated that I wouldn't try photography again until they invented digital cameras and LCD displays.) But I've recently seen some outstanding industrial work, large format shots taken in operating steel works and auto assembly lines, printed at sizes around 2 by 3 feet. These were in an exhibition of commercial work by Karsh that's currently touring. http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/atlas_steel/ http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/ford_canada/ Of course you can't tell from the screen, but these gelatin silver prints have a quietly impressive depth and lustre. I'd love to be able to print on some paper that even came half-way to matching the look he got from this stuff. Can ink-jet approximate this, or is it only possible with trad photo-paper? I guess that at this point the analog film buffs are rolling their eyes and would say, *this* is why we still shoot film. -bmw On 11-02-15 7:08 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Love the bw square crop. I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print for this picture. But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. To my eye, sometimes basic glossy paper looks kind of cheap. Nice job, Darren. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw I like the color shot... see it in some sort of industrial magazine ad . ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 16 February 2011 06:23, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Great crops but I'll buck the trend ands say that I still like the original. The red I don't find so distracting, to me it makes me feel like I'm viewing the scene from a distance, I wouldn't expect to be up close unless I was the one doing the work. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I wish I could help, Bruce, but I don't know enough about the variety of inkjet papers to know which comes closes to gelatin silver prints. Nor do I know a lot about gelatin silver prints. Maybe one day the Karsh exhibit will come to Chicago, and I'll be able to see what you're talking about. I wonder if the depth you mention has more to do with using a large format camera than the paper and chemical printing process. Just thinking out loud here. Would love to see the Karsh exhibit you reference here. Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed seeing the work. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:08 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder I'm at a serious disadvantage trying to discuss photo paper as I pretty much bypassed all the chemical stuff. (After dabbling with BW developing, I quit shooting in the early 1980's and publicly stated that I wouldn't try photography again until they invented digital cameras and LCD displays.) But I've recently seen some outstanding industrial work, large format shots taken in operating steel works and auto assembly lines, printed at sizes around 2 by 3 feet. These were in an exhibition of commercial work by Karsh that's currently touring. http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/atlas_steel/ http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/ford_canada/ Of course you can't tell from the screen, but these gelatin silver prints have a quietly impressive depth and lustre. I'd love to be able to print on some paper that even came half-way to matching the look he got from this stuff. Can ink-jet approximate this, or is it only possible with trad photo-paper? I guess that at this point the analog film buffs are rolling their eyes and would say, *this* is why we still shoot film. -bmw On 11-02-15 7:08 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Love the bw square crop. I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print for this picture. But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. To my eye, sometimes basic glossy paper looks kind of cheap. Nice job, Darren. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ Both excellent, Darren. I think the bw serves this subject better. Wants to be printed really glossy too. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One black and white for me, please ;-). On 2/15/2011 9:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thanks for the additional comments. By popular demand: : ) Cropped square in BW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/ Cropped square in color: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's pretty sharp for a mirror lens. It's a good image, but I agree about the square crop. The red is just distracting. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Darren: I like the body position of the welder--really makes the shot--as does the spark streams. Very nice there. You might consider a square crop taking from the right side to eliminate the red. The square crop nicely arranges the body position along the far left third of a square crop. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: PESO: The Wire Welder Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10 February 2011 08:55, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad A very nice industrial shot, you've made the most of the light. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks to all who have shared comments. I seem to like this particular image more than The Collective, it seems. One interesting feature of the mirror lens (that I didn't think about before getting one) is the way it makes the edges of objects inside the focal plane semi-transparent. This is due to the central obstruction in a mirror lens that gives you an almost-stereo effect. The mirror to the right of the central obstruction is blocked from seeing the more distant objects while the mirror to the left of the edge can see a bit more past it. This simultaneous double exposure results in the semi-transparent edge you see in the red/orange toolbox to the right. This is an element that can be used creatively. While I don't care for the donut bokeh created by the mirror lens, this simply means that it is best used (if one wishes to avoid them) where there will not be specular highlights in the background (lower dynamic range scenes, perhaps?) I'm having a hard time believing how shallow the depth of field on this lens is, even when focusing at a great distance. I took an image of a field full of white tail deer on the way home from work (on a tripod) and was surprised to find that a narrow strip of cornstalks about 10 yards in front of the deer was sharply in focus while all else was not. It is a challenging lens to use through the viewfinder. I may have to make use of focusing through the live view (something I have been aware of for a while, but have so far eshewed). Where it is sharp it is very sharp (for a mirror lens) which surprises me. I've heard good things about this lens for a while and can see already that those opinions are justified. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Darren: I like the body position of the welder--really makes the shot--as does the spark streams. Very nice there. You might consider a square crop taking from the right side to eliminate the red. The square crop nicely arranges the body position along the far left third of a square crop. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: PESO: The Wire Welder Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: The Wire Welder
Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Wire Welder
On Feb 9, 2011, at 15:55, Darren Addy wrote: Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad Nice. Thousands of times sharper than my craptastic no-name 500mm mirror. I should just throw mine away. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Wire Welder
Nice Dave On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Received my Priority Mail package in only 10 days (from Ohio to Nebraska). Whoo-Hoo! This is a high-ISO K-x shot taken through the new-to-me Tamron SP 52BB 500mm f/8 adaptall2. (Thanks Collin!) http://www.pixelsmithy.com/the-welder-test-of-tamron-sp-52bb-500mm-f8-ad Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
