Re: The other half

2010-05-09 Thread David Mann
On May 9, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

 I used to loath the thought of running.

So did I.  I still remember the day our PE teacher made us run around the field 
for 12 minutes and recorded how many laps we did.

These days I enjoy running, especially longer distances.  The downside after 
the race is that I get to look forward to about another three days of mentally 
hitting the wall at 3pm.  I won't put the running shoes on again until next 
weekend at the earliest.

Cheers,
Dave


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OT: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread David Mann
I had my second half-marathon race this morning.  Last week's race was very 
hilly; this week was pretty much flat but on roughish ground, and my official 
time for today was 1:50:03.

The race was a pretty hard one; the first 10km was run into a head wind and I 
had a little muscle pain to deal with, undoubtedly a bit of a hangover from 
last week.  A couple of km after we turned around, that nice tail wind dropped 
off.  Sod it.

For most of the race I was keeping an eye on my pace thinking I was doing 
terribly but I was bitten once again by my complete inability to perform basic 
mathematics while running and I was actually going a bit quicker than I thought.

The event was sponsored by a winery and most of the running was through 
vineyards with quite a bit of that going down between the grape vines.  Most of 
them had been harvested already so I didn't do any sampling.  As a bonus 
everyone was given a bottle of wine after finishing.  That's pretty good 
considering they had about 1700 entrants.

I just entered for another half marathon in my home town in early June.  For 
only $15 I could have super-sized to a full marathon but I'm not quite ready 
for that :)

We're staying in Hanmer Springs tonight so tomorrow I'm going to try and take a 
couple of decent photos from my favourite part of last week's course.

Cheers,
Dave
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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Bob W
Well done - I'm very impressed by anyone who can run further than I can.
Which is to say, I'm very impressed by most people who can run. The furthest
I've ever run without stopping is 5 miles, and that took me nearly an hour.

Bob

 
 I had my second half-marathon race this morning.  Last week's 
 race was very hilly; this week was pretty much flat but on 
 roughish ground, and my official time for today was 1:50:03.
 
 The race was a pretty hard one; the first 10km was run into a 
 head wind and I had a little muscle pain to deal with, 
 undoubtedly a bit of a hangover from last week.  A couple of 
 km after we turned around, that nice tail wind dropped off.  Sod it.
 
 For most of the race I was keeping an eye on my pace thinking 
 I was doing terribly but I was bitten once again by my 
 complete inability to perform basic mathematics while running 
 and I was actually going a bit quicker than I thought.
 
 The event was sponsored by a winery and most of the running 
 was through vineyards with quite a bit of that going down 
 between the grape vines.  Most of them had been harvested 
 already so I didn't do any sampling.  As a bonus everyone was 
 given a bottle of wine after finishing.  That's pretty good 
 considering they had about 1700 entrants.
 
 I just entered for another half marathon in my home town in 
 early June.  For only $15 I could have super-sized to a full 
 marathon but I'm not quite ready for that :)
 
 We're staying in Hanmer Springs tonight so tomorrow I'm going 
 to try and take a couple of decent photos from my favourite 
 part of last week's course.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave


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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Malcolm Smith

 Bob W wrote:

 Well done - I'm very impressed by anyone who can run further than I
 can.
 Which is to say, I'm very impressed by most people who can run. The
 furthest
 I've ever run without stopping is 5 miles, and that took me nearly an
 hour.

As am I. I used to walk a six mile circuit every day and I'd like to be able
to run that. I doubt I'd do a mile at present. I take the camera with me on
the walks though!

Malcolm


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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Bob W
  Well done - I'm very impressed by anyone who can run further than I 
  can.
  Which is to say, I'm very impressed by most people who can run. The 
  furthest I've ever run without stopping is 5 miles, and 
 that took me 
  nearly an hour.
 
 As am I. I used to walk a six mile circuit every day and I'd 
 like to be able to run that. I doubt I'd do a mile at 
 present. I take the camera with me on the walks though!
 
 Malcolm

I started jogging about 5 years ago, having not run outdoors since school,
and only on the treadmill when I had gym membership. I followed a plan I
found on a squash training site (I'd started playing squash again, and
needed to fitten up) which basically tells you to build up slowly on
alternate days. 

http://www.unc.edu/student/orgs/squash/Squash_Fitness/squash_fitness.html

Scroll down to Conditioning Suggestions from Coach Tom Generous. I
followed that to the letter, and it worked. One of the key psychological
tricks I used for cold, wet, windy, rainy winter evenings was to tell myself
to go out and I would not regret it, but if I didn't go out I would regret
it. That worked too. I also think it's important to have a pleasant circuit
to run.

Once I was able to run for 20 minutes easily I started extending it until I
was running 5 miles in about 55 minutes, but at that stage my knees started
to suffer, so I cut back. My normal run at the moment is about 3.5 miles in
30 minutes, and I'd like to build up the running time again, gradually.

Last year I had a problem with my iliotibial band, and stopped for a while,
and I've found it quite hard to get back up to a decent level again for
various reasons. However, I think I have now got back into the routine.

Bob


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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi Bob,

 I started jogging about 5 years ago, having not run outdoors since
 school,
 and only on the treadmill when I had gym membership. I followed a plan
 I
 found on a squash training site (I'd started playing squash again, and
 needed to fitten up) which basically tells you to build up slowly on
 alternate days.
 
 http://www.unc.edu/student/orgs/squash/Squash_Fitness/squash_fitness.h
 tml
 
 Scroll down to Conditioning Suggestions from Coach Tom Generous. I
 followed that to the letter, and it worked. One of the key
 psychological
 tricks I used for cold, wet, windy, rainy winter evenings was to tell
 myself
 to go out and I would not regret it, but if I didn't go out I would
 regret
 it. That worked too. I also think it's important to have a pleasant
 circuit
 to run.
 
 Once I was able to run for 20 minutes easily I started extending it
 until I
 was running 5 miles in about 55 minutes, but at that stage my knees
 started
 to suffer, so I cut back. My normal run at the moment is about 3.5
 miles in
 30 minutes, and I'd like to build up the running time again, gradually.
 
 Last year I had a problem with my iliotibial band, and stopped for a
 while,
 and I've found it quite hard to get back up to a decent level again for
 various reasons. However, I think I have now got back into the routine.

Thanks for that. I lost 4 stone last year - mainly through illness rather
than trying to do so - and I've put some back on. Oddly enough, I've felt
less fit since I've lost weight, but I'm sure this is down to less physical
work. I enjoy getting out walking, and since Epping Forest is on my
doorstep, I really have little excuse not to do so. I will read this up and
get to it. I'd like to run 5 miles without feeling breathless and asthmatic.


Malcolm


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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Bob W
 
 Thanks for that. I lost 4 stone last year - mainly through 
 illness rather than trying to do so - and I've put some back 
 on. Oddly enough, I've felt less fit since I've lost weight, 
 but I'm sure this is down to less physical work. I enjoy 
 getting out walking, and since Epping Forest is on my 
 doorstep, I really have little excuse not to do so. I will 
 read this up and get to it. I'd like to run 5 miles without 
 feeling breathless and asthmatic.

Walking 6 miles and running 6 miles will burn more or less the same number
of calories - it's the amount of energy needed to move a certain weight a
certain distance - but running does it more quickly. I think it will give
your cardio system a lot more exercise though, which is more important than
mere weight loss. You get an endorphin high from the exercise and start a
positive feedback loop which encourages you to take more exercise still.
This makes you feel better about absolutely everything, as well as improving
your physical health.

Epping Forest would be a great place to run, except perhaps in the dark with
no lights and all those highwaymen. It's probably not more than 10 miles
from here along the Lea Valley - we should meet up sometime.

Bob


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Re: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:
Thanks for that. I lost 4 stone last year - mainly through 
illness rather than trying to do so - and I've put some back 
on. Oddly enough, I've felt less fit since I've lost weight, 
but I'm sure this is down to less physical work. I enjoy 
getting out walking, and since Epping Forest is on my 
doorstep, I really have little excuse not to do so. I will 
read this up and get to it. I'd like to run 5 miles without 
feeling breathless and asthmatic.



Walking 6 miles and running 6 miles will burn more or less the same number
of calories - it's the amount of energy needed to move a certain weight a
certain distance - but running does it more quickly. I think it will give
your cardio system a lot more exercise though, which is more important than
mere weight loss. You get an endorphin high from the exercise and start a
positive feedback loop which encourages you to take more exercise still.
This makes you feel better about absolutely everything, as well as improving
your physical health.


I _think_ that moving the weight more quickly will use more energy. 
Otherwise, why would your cv system need to work harder?




Epping Forest would be a great place to run, except perhaps in the dark with
no lights and all those highwaymen. It's probably not more than 10 miles
from here along the Lea Valley - we should meet up sometime.


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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Bob W
  Walking 6 miles and running 6 miles will burn more or less 
 the same number
  of calories - it's the amount of energy needed to move a 
 certain weight a
  certain distance - but running does it more quickly. I 
 think it will give
  your cardio system a lot more exercise though, which is 
 more important than
  mere weight loss. You get an endorphin high from the 
 exercise and start a
  positive feedback loop which encourages you to take more 
 exercise still.
  This makes you feel better about absolutely everything, as 
 well as improving
  your physical health.
 
 I _think_ that moving the weight more quickly will use more energy. 
 Otherwise, why would your cv system need to work harder?
 

To generate the additional speed. I don't know that the 2 modes use exactly
the same number of calories, but I don't think the difference is
significant. I could be wrong - maybe I'm just recirculating garbage I've
read online.

What does make a difference is that it's a lot easier to eat a Mars bar when
you're walking than when you're running.

Bob


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RE: The other half

2010-05-08 Thread Malcolm Smith
 Walking 6 miles and running 6 miles will burn more or less the same
 number
 of calories - it's the amount of energy needed to move a certain weight
 a
 certain distance - but running does it more quickly. I think it will
 give
 your cardio system a lot more exercise though, which is more important
 than
 mere weight loss. You get an endorphin high from the exercise and start
 a
 positive feedback loop which encourages you to take more exercise
 still.
 This makes you feel better about absolutely everything, as well as
 improving
 your physical health.

I used to loath the thought of running. It was the school exercise you did
when the weather was so poor as to make games pitches unplayable, heavy
rain, snow...especially snow. Added to which I always came in near the very
end. My target is just to be able to do the circuit I previously walked, at
a quicker pace. I'm not sure I could even walk it right now, but I'll find
out tomorrow morning!

 Epping Forest would be a great place to run, except perhaps in the dark
 with
 no lights and all those highwaymen. It's probably not more than 10
 miles
 from here along the Lea Valley - we should meet up sometime.

Even as I sent it, I was reminded of the rough ground cut up on the horse
rides (the only flat bit close to me) - fortunately with longer evenings I
won't have to run with a mining hat on. Once I'm able to 'walk and talk'
without sounding like an old carthorse, we'll have to meet up.

Malcolm


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PUG Commentary - Paul Jones's My other Half

2001-05-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff

This photo has been on my mind for a week, and I've been vacillating
about making a comment.  It's certainly a nice, sweet memory, photo
(as was noted in another comment), perhaps even ideal for putting in
a family album of snapshots. However, I find it disconcerting that
we don't see what is being photographed by Paul's girlfriend. 
Perhaps there's a little of it showing, but a better shot would have
been to pull back just a bit on the zoom so the entire thing that
your girlfriend is photographing is also included in the shot. 
There's clearly a small bag of something - perhaps nuts or bird seed
- in clear view.  What kind of little creature is being fed and
photographed. Including it (or them) would still allow a nice
memory, but you'd also have a better photograph.

Feininger suggests that the more fascinating the subject the less
observant the photographer.  He described a session on nude
photography in which students were so focused on the model that they
ignored the background.  The pictures included students, light
stands, electric wires, and the instructor, amongst other
distractions.  This photo is similar, as perhaps the photographer,
engrossed as he was with his girlfriend, failed to consider
including a little more in the picture.

So, as a personal memory, it's probably good enough, but as a
photo that tells the whole story, it's a failure.
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Re: PUG Commentary - Paul Jones's My other Half

2001-05-08 Thread Rfsindg

Shel,

You are giving us a one man course on photography here in your comments!  I appreciate 
you sharing your point of view and feel similar about this photo.

Regards,  Bob S.

This photo has been on my mind for a week, and
 I've been vacillating about making a comment. 
 It's certainly a nice, sweet memory, photo (as
 was noted in another comment), perhaps even
 ideal for putting in a family album of
 snapshots. However, I find it disconcerting
 that we don't see what is being photographed
 by Paul's girlfriend.  Perhaps there's a little
 of it showing, but a better shot would have
 been to pull back just a bit on the zoom so the
 entire thing that your girlfriend is
 photographing is also included in the shot.
 There's clearly a small bag of something -
 perhaps nuts or bird seed - in clear view. 
 What kind of little creature is being fed and
 photographed. Including it (or them) would
 still allow a nice memory, but you'd also have
 a better photograph.

 Feininger suggests that the more fascinating
 the subject the less observant the photographer.
 He described a session on nude photography in
 which students were so focused on the model
 that they ignored the background.  The pictures
 included students, light stands, electric
 wires, and the instructor, amongst other
 distractions.  This photo is similar, as
 perhaps the photographer, engrossed as he was
 with his girlfriend, failed to consider
 including a little more in the picture.

 So, as a personal memory, it's probably good
 enough, but as a photo that tells the whole
 story, it's a failure.
 -- 
 Shel Belinkoff   

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