Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-20 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/17/2011 9:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop.
Unfortunately, my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot
that was probably soft to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the
color and exposure. It's now almost what I had in mind a quarter
century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get a kick out of it.


You've got quite a memory, Paul, quite a memory!


BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to
shoot out the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined,
figuring I needed the light, even if it was green.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg


Wonderful photo. Brought memories of some totally different photos that 
my memory cherishes for my own personal reasons.


Boris

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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Paul Stenquist


While I sometimes caused flames to come out of editors. The objective
here was to have flames coming out of the headers.


Still, what you wrote has a certain poetic quality that what you meant 
lacks.


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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 18, 2011, at 13:52, Ken Waller wrote:

> Being a Ford salaried retiree, I'd rather forget about the Mustang II, even 
> though I had nothing to do with it.
> 

I remember: "Mustang II, Boredom zero"!

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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built a 
> new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would shoot 
> plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try to get 
> one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the engine 
> running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the guys into 
> dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago Planetarium is 
> built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had forgotten about 
> the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they were. (Turns out they 
> were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and 
> plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set 
> that up to light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and mounted 
> it closer to illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a 
> Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. 
> (Didn't own a flash meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the 
> power of those flashes outside at night, and the only good exposures were at 
> f4. But the green cast from the street lights was awful at the longer 
> exposures, and shorter exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were 
> almost decent exposures but lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, 
> they couldn't be fixed.
>
> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, my 
> scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft to 
> begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now 
> almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get a 
> kick out of it.
>
> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out 
> the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed 
> the light, even if it was green.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg

Well, all your tweaking made it a pretty damned good shot after all.
Not the sharpest ever, but the colours and the car look great -
especially with those flames coming out of the pipes.

I never thought I'd ever say this, but that's a hell of a great
looking Mustang II.

;-)

cheers,
frank



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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Ken Waller

AFAIK - No.

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- Original Message - 
From: "J.C. O'Connell" 

Subject: RE: The way-back machine: 25 years ago



wasn't the mustang II a rebodied pinto?

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Being a Ford salaried retiree, I'd rather forget about the Mustang II, 
even

though I had nothing to do with it.

The only item related to a production Mustang II & the one in Paul's shot 
is


the Mustang emblem in the grille.

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- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Franklin" 

Subject: Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago



On 2011-03-18 0:06, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-03-17 23:56, Ken Waller wrote:

Great capture Paul!

I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat
surprised to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a
Chrysler variant.


It's a Mustang (II) body, anyway. I had one of the regular I-4
versions way back when. As I understand it, it was a Pinto with a
different body.
:-)


Not that the dragster was in any way related to the old Mustang II I
drove, except for the shape of some parts of the body work.

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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
The engine was a Keith Black aluminum-block hemi -- essentially a 426 Chrysler 
hemi with stouter main webs and replaceable sleeves. It had a crankshaft with a 
1/2" longer stroke for a displacement of 484 cubic inches. The heads were 
probably stock 426 Chrysler. It had a supercharger based on the GMC 1071 style 
case but built with tight clearances and teflon scrapers. Fuel was via constant 
flow injectors with 8 nozzles above the supercharger and 16 in the ports. It 
ran on about 85% nitromethane/alcohol mix. The car weighted about 1900 pounds. 
I think this car's best performance was a quarter mile of around 5.8 seconds at 
about 260 mph.  I remember that while I was trying to shoot the pic, the ground 
vibrated from the engine's idle. I sandbagged the tripod, but it may  not have 
done much to dispel the vibration. I used the only lens I had for the C2 Mamiya 
-- an 80/2.8.

On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Aha, so my instincts were correct.
> 
> What motor was used in the vehicle pictured?
> 
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago
> 
> 
>> Thanks Ken.
>> The Chi-Town guys were getting help from Dodge until me mid seventies. But 
>> when that ran dry, they briefly went to a Mustang II body. That body worked 
>> fairly well in terms of generating good downforce. One of the cars I 
>> wrenched in the mid seventies, "Chicago Patrol" was a Mustang II as well. 
>> The Hutstler team went back to Dodge bodies when this car was put to rest, 
>> probably around 1978 or so.
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> 
>>> Great capture Paul!
>>> 
>>> I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat surprised 
>>> to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a Chrysler variant.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
>>> 
>>> Subject: The way-back machine: 25 years ago
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
>>>> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built 
>>>> a new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would 
>>>> shoot plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try 
>>>> to get one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted 
>>>> the engine running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked 
>>>> the guys into dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago 
>>>> Planetarium is built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I 
>>>> had forgotten about the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they 
>>>> were. (Turns out they were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I 
>>>> brought my two strobes and plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful 
>>>> Honeywell potato masher, and I set that up to light the side of the car. I 
>>>> used a small Rollei flash and mounted it closer to illuminate the front of 
>>>> the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 
>>>> at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the 
>>>> time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the power of those flashes 
>>>> outside at night, and the only good exposures were at f4. But the green 
>>>> cast from the street lights was awful at the longer exposures, and shorter 
>>>> exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were almost decent exposures 
>>>> but lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, they couldn't be fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, 
>>>> my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably 
>>>> soft to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. 
>>>> It's now almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town 
>>>> guys will get a kick out of it.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot 
>>>> out the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I 
>>>> needed the light, even if it was green.
>>>> 
>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
> 
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Ken Waller

Aha, so my instincts were correct.

What motor was used in the vehicle pictured?


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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago



Thanks Ken.
The Chi-Town guys were getting help from Dodge until me mid seventies. But 
when that ran dry, they briefly went to a Mustang II body. That body 
worked fairly well in terms of generating good downforce. One of the cars 
I wrenched in the mid seventies, "Chicago Patrol" was a Mustang II as 
well. The Hutstler team went back to Dodge bodies when this car was put to 
rest, probably around 1978 or so.

Paul


On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Great capture Paul!

I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat 
surprised to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a Chrysler 
variant.



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- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 


Subject: The way-back machine: 25 years ago


Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just 
built a new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I 
would shoot plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I 
wanted to try to get one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. 
And I wanted the engine running and flames coming out of the editors. 
Well, I talked the guys into dragging the car down to the peninsula on 
which the Chicago Planetarium is built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. 
Unfortunately, I had forgotten about the streetlights, and had no idea 
what color temp they were. (Turns out they were close to fluorescent 
green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and plenty of wiring. I 
had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set that up to 
light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and mounted it 
closer to illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a 
Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 
1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much 
overestimated the power of those flashes outside at night, and the only 
good exposures were at f4. But the green cast from the street lights was 
awful at the longer exposures, and shorter exposures were underexposed. 
So my best shots were almost decent exposures but lacking DOF and way 
too green. In those days, they couldn't be fixed.


This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. 
Unfortunately, my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that 
was probably soft to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color 
and exposure. It's now almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. 
The Chi-Town guys will get a kick out of it.


BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot 
out the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring 
I needed the light, even if it was green.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg

Paul



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RE: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread J.C. O'Connell
wasn't the mustang II a rebodied pinto?

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Being a Ford salaried retiree, I'd rather forget about the Mustang II, even 
though I had nothing to do with it.

The only item related to a production Mustang II & the one in Paul's shot is

the Mustang emblem in the grille.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Franklin" 
Subject: Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago


> On 2011-03-18 0:06, Doug Franklin wrote:
>> On 2011-03-17 23:56, Ken Waller wrote:
>>> Great capture Paul!
>>>
>>> I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat 
>>> surprised to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a 
>>> Chrysler variant.
>>
>> It's a Mustang (II) body, anyway. I had one of the regular I-4 
>> versions way back when. As I understand it, it was a Pinto with a 
>> different body.
>> :-)
>
> Not that the dragster was in any way related to the old Mustang II I
> drove, except for the shape of some parts of the body work.
>
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
Being a Ford salaried retiree, I'd rather forget about the Mustang II, even 
though I had nothing to do with it.


The only item related to a production Mustang II & the one in Paul's shot is 
the Mustang emblem in the grille.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Franklin" 

Subject: Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago



On 2011-03-18 0:06, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-03-17 23:56, Ken Waller wrote:

Great capture Paul!

I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat
surprised to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a
Chrysler variant.


It's a Mustang (II) body, anyway. I had one of the regular I-4 versions
way back when. As I understand it, it was a Pinto with a different body.
:-)


Not that the dragster was in any way related to the old Mustang II I 
drove, except for the shape of some parts of the body work.


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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Lots of memories are triggered by that shot.  Nice save.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:12 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Thanks Bob.
>> But my math sucks. It was 35 years ago -- 1976. Hardly seems possible.
>> Paul
>
> Great adjustment and a nice story. Good picture to.
>
> Dave
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>> Paul,
>>> Wow, that brings back some memories.
>>> Yes your scanner is soft, but the photo is a great promo piece.
>>> I love the flames visible on the far side of the hood.
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>>> wrote:
 Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
 Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built 
 a new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would 
 shoot plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try 
 to get one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted 
 the engine running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked 
 the guys into dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago 
 Planetarium is built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I 
 had forgotten about the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they 
 were. (Turns out they were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I 
 brought my two strobes and plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful 
 Honeywell potato masher, and I set that up to light the side of the car. I 
 used a small Rollei flash and mounted it closer to illuminate the front of 
 the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 
 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the 
 time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the power of those flashes 
 outside at night, and the only good exposures were at f4. But the green 
 cast from the street lights was awful at the longer exposures, and shorter 
 exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were almost decent exposures 
 but lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, they couldn't be fixed.

 This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, 
 my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably 
 soft to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. 
 It's now almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town 
 guys will get a kick out of it.

 BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot 
 out the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I 
 needed the light, even if it was green.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg

 Paul
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks Bob.
> But my math sucks. It was 35 years ago -- 1976. Hardly seems possible.
> Paul

Great adjustment and a nice story. Good picture to.

Dave
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>> Wow, that brings back some memories.
>> Yes your scanner is soft, but the photo is a great promo piece.
>> I love the flames visible on the far side of the hood.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
>>> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built 
>>> a new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would 
>>> shoot plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try 
>>> to get one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the 
>>> engine running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the 
>>> guys into dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago 
>>> Planetarium is built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had 
>>> forgotten about the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they 
>>> were. (Turns out they were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I 
>>> brought my two strobes and plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful 
>>> Honeywell potato masher, and I set that up to light the side of the car. I 
>>> used a small Rollei flash and mounted it closer to illuminate the front of 
>>> the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 
>>> at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the 
>>> time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the power of those flashes outside 
>>> at night, and the only good exposures were at f4. But the green cast from 
>>> the street lights was awful at the longer exposures, and shorter exposures 
>>> were underexposed. So my best shots were almost decent exposures but 
>>> lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, they couldn't be fixed.
>>>
>>> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, 
>>> my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft 
>>> to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now 
>>> almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get 
>>> a kick out of it.
>>>
>>> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out 
>>> the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I 
>>> needed the light, even if it was green.
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
>>>
>>> Paul
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Ken.
The Chi-Town guys were getting help from Dodge until me mid seventies. But when 
that ran dry, they briefly went to a Mustang II body. That body worked fairly 
well in terms of generating good downforce. One of the cars I wrenched in the 
mid seventies, "Chicago Patrol" was a Mustang II as well. The Hutstler team 
went back to Dodge bodies when this car was put to rest, probably around 1978 
or so.
Paul


On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Great capture Paul!
> 
> I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat surprised to 
> see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a Chrysler variant.
> 
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: The way-back machine: 25 years ago
> 
> 
>> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
>> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built a 
>> new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would shoot 
>> plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try to get 
>> one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the engine 
>> running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the guys into 
>> dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago Planetarium is 
>> built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had forgotten about 
>> the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they were. (Turns out they 
>> were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and 
>> plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set 
>> that up to light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and 
>> mounted it closer to illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 
>> in a Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 
>> 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much 
>> overestimated the power of those flashes outside at night, and the only good 
>> exposures were at f4. But the green cast from the street lights was awful at 
>> the longer exposures, and shorter exposures were underexposed. So my best 
>> shots were almost decent exposures but lacking DOF and way too green. In 
>> those days, they couldn't be fixed.
>> 
>> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, 
>> my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft 
>> to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now 
>> almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get 
>> a kick out of it.
>> 
>> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out 
>> the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed 
>> the light, even if it was green.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-03-18 0:06, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-03-17 23:56, Ken Waller wrote:

Great capture Paul!

I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat
surprised to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a
Chrysler variant.


It's a Mustang (II) body, anyway. I had one of the regular I-4 versions
way back when. As I understand it, it was a Pinto with a different body.
:-)


Not that the dragster was in any way related to the old Mustang II I 
drove, except for the shape of some parts of the body work.


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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-03-17 23:56, Ken Waller wrote:

Great capture Paul!

I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat
surprised to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a
Chrysler variant.


It's a Mustang (II) body, anyway.  I had one of the regular I-4 versions 
way back when.  As I understand it, it was a Pinto with a different 
body. :-)


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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Ken Waller

Great capture Paul!

I didn't/don't follow drag racing that closely so I was somewhat surprised 
to see its sort of a Mustang - I thought it would be a Chrysler variant.



Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: The way-back machine: 25 years ago


Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built 
a new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would 
shoot plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try 
to get one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted 
the engine running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked 
the guys into dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago 
Planetarium is built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I 
had forgotten about the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they 
were. (Turns out they were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I 
brought my two strobes and plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful 
Honeywell potato masher, and I set that up to light the side of the car. I 
used a small Rollei flash and mounted it closer to illuminate the front of 
the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 
at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the 
time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the power of those flashes 
outside at night, and the only good exposures were at f4. But the green 
cast from the street lights was awful at the longer exposures, and shorter 
exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were almost decent exposures 
but lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, they couldn't be fixed.


This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, 
my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably 
soft to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. 
It's now almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town 
guys will get a kick out of it.


BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot 
out the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I 
needed the light, even if it was green.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg

Paul



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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Charles. Those were good times. Perhaps I'll try to get a good scan of 
the transparency some day. 
Paul
On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> On Mar 17, 2011, at 14:58, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
>> 
> 
> Great story, Paul!  I like the picture. 
> 
> This is one of the best things about dragging out old negatives/slides and 
> scanning them - the amount and ease of "fixing" that can be done today vs. 
> what could be done in a lab 10/20/30 years ago (or more) is stunning.  More 
> than a few times I've found great old shots which the initial prints (from 
> the local drugstore or Fotomat or whatever) made me think never had a chance.
> 
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bob.
But my math sucks. It was 35 years ago -- 1976. Hardly seems possible.
Paul
On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Paul,
> Wow, that brings back some memories.
> Yes your scanner is soft, but the photo is a great promo piece.
> I love the flames visible on the far side of the hood.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
>> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built a 
>> new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would shoot 
>> plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try to get 
>> one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the engine 
>> running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the guys into 
>> dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago Planetarium is 
>> built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had forgotten about 
>> the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they were. (Turns out they 
>> were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and 
>> plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set 
>> that up to light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and 
>> mounted it closer to illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 
>> in a Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 
>> 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much 
>> overestimated the power of those flashes outside at night, and the only good 
>> exposures were at f4. But the green cast from the street lights was awful at 
>> the longer exposures, and shorter exposures were underexposed. So my best 
>> shots were almost decent exposures but lacking DOF and way too green. In 
>> those days, they couldn't be fixed.
>> 
>> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, 
>> my scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft 
>> to begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now 
>> almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get 
>> a kick out of it.
>> 
>> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out 
>> the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed 
>> the light, even if it was green.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
>> 
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Wow, that brings back some memories.
Yes your scanner is soft, but the photo is a great promo piece.
I love the flames visible on the far side of the hood.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built a 
> new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would shoot 
> plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try to get 
> one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the engine 
> running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the guys into 
> dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago Planetarium is 
> built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had forgotten about 
> the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they were. (Turns out they 
> were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and 
> plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set 
> that up to light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and mounted 
> it closer to illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a 
> Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. 
> (Didn't own a flash meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the 
> power of those flashes outside at night, and the only good exposures were at 
> f4. But the green cast from the street lights was awful at the longer 
> exposures, and shorter exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were 
> almost decent exposures but lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, 
> they couldn't be fixed.
>
> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, my 
> scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft to 
> begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now 
> almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get a 
> kick out of it.
>
> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out 
> the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed 
> the light, even if it was green.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
>
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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 14:58, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
> 

Great story, Paul!  I like the picture. 

This is one of the best things about dragging out old negatives/slides and 
scanning them - the amount and ease of "fixing" that can be done today vs. what 
could be done in a lab 10/20/30 years ago (or more) is stunning.  More than a 
few times I've found great old shots which the initial prints (from the local 
drugstore or Fotomat or whatever) made me think never had a chance.

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Re: The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
While I sometimes caused flames to come out of editors. The objective here was 
to have flames coming out of the headers.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super 
> Stock Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built a 
> new funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would shoot 
> plenty of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try to get 
> one pic with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the engine 
> running and flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the guys into 
> dragging the car down to the peninsula on which the Chicago Planetarium is 
> built, and unloaded it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had forgotten about 
> the streetlights, and had no idea what color temp they were. (Turns out they 
> were close to fluorescent green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and 
> plenty of wiring. I had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set 
> that up to light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and mounted 
> it closer to illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a 
> Mamiyaflex C2, and bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. 
> (Didn't own a flash meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the 
> power of those flashes outside at night, and the only good exposures were at 
> f4. But the green cast from the street lights was awful at the longer 
> exposures, and shorter exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were 
> almost decent exposures but lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, 
> they couldn't be fixed.
> 
> This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, my 
> scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft to 
> begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now 
> almost what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get a 
> kick out of it. 
> 
> BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out 
> the street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed 
> the light, even if it was green.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg
> 
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The way-back machine: 25 years ago

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Twenty-five years ago, I had an idea. I had been shooting cars for Super Stock 
Magazine for a year or two. The Chi-Town Hustler crew had just built a new 
funny car, and I was going to shoot it for the mag. While I would shoot plenty 
of pics in a safe and nicely lit parking lot, I wanted to try to get one pic 
with the Chicago skyline in the background. And I wanted the engine running and 
flames coming out of the editors. Well, I talked the guys into dragging the car 
down to the peninsula on which the Chicago Planetarium is built, and unloaded 
it on the sidewalk. Unfortunately, I had forgotten about the streetlights, and 
had no idea what color temp they were. (Turns out they were close to 
fluorescent green, only greener.) I brought my two strobes and plenty of 
wiring. I had a fairly powerful Honeywell potato masher, and I set that up to 
light the side of the car. I used a small Rollei flash and mounted it closer to 
illuminate the front of the car. I shot Ektachrome 120 in a Mamiyaflex C2, and 
bracketed from f11 at 1/30th, all the way to f4 at 1/15th. (Didn't own a flash 
meter at the time.) Well, I pretty much overestimated the power of those 
flashes outside at night, and the only good exposures were at f4. But the green 
cast from the street lights was awful at the longer exposures, and shorter 
exposures were underexposed. So my best shots were almost decent exposures but 
lacking DOF and way too green. In those days, they couldn't be fixed.

This morning I had a go at fixing one of them in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, my 
scanner sucks (a flatbed Epson 3200), so the shot that was probably soft to 
begin with is softer yet. But I did fix the color and exposure. It's now almost 
what I had in mind a quarter century ago. The Chi-Town guys will get a kick out 
of it. 

BTW, Pat Minick, who is sitting in the car in the pic, offered to shoot out the 
street lights with his sidearm that night. I declined, figuring I needed the 
light, even if it was green.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12827153&size=lg

Paul
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